turqoise Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 ok guys. thought I`d share as briefly as i can the surreal experience with a so-called reputable naturopath i had the other day. I`ve had depression, and have been taking supplements for the last 4 months. I wanted a naturopath to listen to the supplements that i was already taking, check out my diet and my general state of being, and tell me whether I was on track, and if not, explain where I was lacking and how to fix it. He was going to be $120/1.5 hours, plus additional `product` expenses. The follwing are what showed me what an incompetant, unprofessional, money-making, disorganised guy he was. 1. As most naturopaths do, he had asked me to send him a filled questionnaire of my health and medication before our appointment. HOWEVER, when I got there, he lied about having read it. (You could tell he had no idea from the questions he was asking, and the reactions to those questions. Plus he lied about not reading it until I proved him wrong whereupon he went silent) 2. So he spent at least 20 minutes ($30 for me) asking me lots of questions including many that I had already answered in the questionnaire. He completely ommitted many questions which should have been relevant (eg. what has your diet been like these last few days, what has your mood been like lately, how do you compare feeling in the morning with at night etc. absolute standard questions from any decent pro on depression) 3. When I mentioned that I thought the cause of my depression had something to do with a breakup, he immediately went into counselling me for about 20 minutes. Very badly, too. Basically, he asked me if I had many friends, then told me I should join a social club. That was it. Another $30 for me. 4. At teh last 15 minutes, he did a blood analysis, bringing a slide of my blood up on screen and pointing out what each cell meant, and what was deficient. He went through it really quickly, didn`t explain then went straight on rushing around the office picking up about 4 bottles of supplements which he printed out an invoice for, and booked me in for two sessions for a thing called microcurrent treatment, which he barely explained. I explained to him twice that I needed to be well-informed before I could justify trying something, but he again would not explain properly, and I was rushed out, being told that he had a phonecall he had to take. 5. I called him the next day and told him simply: I`m sorry but after researching and talking to a few people about my session with you yesterday, I don`t feel like you diagnosed me properly, and I don`T think I need at least 2 of the 4 supplements you sold me. I would like my money back please. Immediately, he responded by saying: `certainly not!` Then proceeded, in an extremely defensive manner, how it was all because of my condition that I thought he wasn`T good, that I had such bad memory and concentration and I didn`t remember half the things that happened in the consultation..OMG Then, he said that I had no right discussing things that he had said to anyone else, and that I needed to trust him (?!?!). Bloody hell. ](*,) Then he said that I had to trust him, and that unless I trusted someone I would end up going around in circles and never be better. What the . Manipulation is an understatement. Geez. If that was even 1 month ago I think I would have been persuaded, but at this point I can see the swindler for what he is. I am trying to get my money back, though he did ring back and offered just to give me $150 back for the products. He tells me the rest I can`t have back because it was time that I contracted. . I contracted his service. Which was severely under par. He better be scared because I`ve got 3 avenues of action I`m going to take against him. So beware everyone. This guy uses the right professional grade supplement products, he claims to have been practising for 20 years, and have dealt with and cured hundreds of depressed people, has a degree, and is part of a naturopath society thing. I thought I had asked the right questions, but he has also set himself up pretty well. My advice on finding a good therapist: 1. Ring a naturopathic education centre, ask a lecturer for several recommendations. Do this for several schools. 2. Check out naturopath societies via citizens advice bureau, and check out their websites for lists of people. Or call the president of the society for recommendations. 3. Ask the naturopath: -how many people with depression have you treated in the last year? How many have you completely cured? Would anyone of them be willing to talk to me? If they give a definite number (say, 6) then it`s good. Even better if they can describe briefly the kinds of patients they`ve had (manic depressive, now they check in every 2 years). If they are iffy, then hang up right there. -what can I expect in a first session? Should be at least a health check and listening to history of condition. Come away with some initial things that may help, but check in in 2-3 weeks time again. education and explanation of the mechanics of the symptoms, and tips on how to improve them. -how much it will cost? Well, another naturopath I rang later cost $50 for 1 hour. that`s not everything; just what i`ve learned from my nice experience. jeez, it`s one thing to sell a bad car or something, but to take advantage of someone with bad mental health is totally rotten. I hope nobody else has had a bad experience, or is having one. People in the healing profession should be the most moral people in society, and they should embody that when they decide on this profession. Quote Link to comment
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