some help on things to say to get it started...

[hitmanrva10]

ok so lets just say im very cocky when it comes to myself, but im super shy when it comes to talking to girls and making a move...........i consider myself a good looking guy, with a model body(im a lil short though 5'8).....anyways i notice that sometimes girls stare at me profusely, or actually come and say whats up.......and ive been starting to get a lot of attention from girls that would never talk to me back in highschool....i wanna know some good ways to discreetly flirt with a girl, and later on get her number or her myspace or whatever.....what do yall recomend?

[heloladies21]

Personally I recommend anything by my man Mystery at link removed. The ebook or the videos are outstanding and took my game to a new level. They have samples on there so go check it out and see for yourself.

[Caine]

Just to add to that, be confident or appear confident when you talk to girls, not cocky though. If you act confident that will make them the shy one and you'll lead the conversation which will easier to get their number.

[Shadow25]

you could try out link removed, IMO, it's alot better than the site mentioned above.

[Markers]

personally I don't recommend any of these sites, they have the tendency to claim to tell The Unquestionable and Absolute Truth about dating - without their Wisdom and Guidance you will never get laid etc. etc.

 

so, what I'm trying to say is: use your common sense and don't believe everything you read. It's a lot better to focus working on your self confidence than trying to learn some mystical knowledge of some pickup artist secret society - while some things they say are useful, taking any advice too seriously, literally and let it be unquestioned will lead you wrong.

[hulk7280]

you could try out link removed, IMO, it's alot better than the site mentioned above.

 

i think link removed is great, they are dead on the money with there advice

[Shadow25]

personally I don't recommend any of these sites, they have the tendency to claim to tell The Unquestionable and Absolute Truth about dating - without their Wisdom and Guidance you will never get laid etc. etc.

 

so, what I'm trying to say is: use your common sense and don't believe everything you read. It's a lot better to focus working on your self confidence than trying to learn some mystical knowledge of some pickup artist secret society - while some things they say are useful, taking any advice too seriously, literally and let it be unquestioned will lead you wrong.

 

Not true at all, maybe you should actually read the website first, I was skeptical at first aswell, i never ever wanted to visit one of these sites...but I did, and it happened to be link removed, and it certainly helped ALOT.

 

That don't make it sound like it's a sure fire way of getting a girl into bed or being a player or any of that crap...we are humans, we arent scripted into following a certain specific path when it comes to dating and attraction or conversation or anything for that matter.

 

I would suggest actually reading the things given on the website before passing judgement so quickly, and if you've read it all, already, you need to read more...I mean, the David DeAngelo eBooks, and his newsletters.

 

I understand that you shouldnt hang off every word...I don't...and I doubt many people do. But they use that common sense, and they think "this is true, this is bull, I'll try the true thing, but not the thing that is a load of garbage"...honestly, I cannot recall reading something garbage on that website yet.

[Markers]

hah, I've read enough of them for a lifetime. I did aknowledge that some of the advice is correct in essentials, but unless you know to strongly filter it, it gets just harmful. I've seen enough sad stories of people trying out that stuff when they don't really understand the point. No skill is about just reading a book about what someone else did, it's about going out and doing it yourself. Especially in dating/interaction/communication you have to get the feel for it yourself, feel for what YOU can do and what works for YOU, not what some other guy said to some other girls.

 

Was it you who was posting scripted cocky&funny convos (like here )? Did they work? I think not.

[Shadow25]

No I didn't try them, but I'm sure they would have worked.

 

I think that those people who have created those "sad stories" are people who followed the wrong websites, people who didn't actually pay attention to what they were reading. And made their own versions thinking they would work better and what not.

 

I'm not saying the sites are perfect and exact, but I wouldnt be bashing them, because they have MANY MANY good resources and advice..

And it's not based on what one person has done either...it's based on every day society...It's funny...I started reading this site when I first started becoming attracted to the 27 yr old, and I was 17 yrs old at the time...then I went out, I went out for my 18th, and I noticed that everything I read on that site abuot picking up women in bars, etc, nightclubs..signs of attraction and interest...It was like a library filled with physical, actual real life examples of what I'd read....

The guys who acted desperate towards women..were the guys who bought the women a drink and were the guys who were left sobbing later on, because the women only wanted a drink, they didnt want the guy...I was actually sitting with my brothers friend, who was really layed back, and I think there were about 5 or 6 women that wouldnt leave him alone...and then because I was layed back, 2 of them started getting all flirty with me (of course I'm not really for women who get drunk and hang off anyone and everyone, and I wasnt used to them hanging off me..that's for sure...

 

Anyway...I'm stuffed...I've been distracted, and I don't even remember what I was writing...so my post ends here...

 

BTW, I don't exactly FOLLOW these websites...but I use them to help me understand different actions and things like that..

I use my instinct.