AnotherBrokenDoll Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Ok i was just wondering if anyone knows about the laws for Australia about talking to councillors and stuff... I know that most things are confidential after you turn 16 but say you are having suicidal thoughts would they call home even if you are 16? This is really important. My friend wants me to promise i'll see a councillor as soon as i hit 16 (not for a while yet though) but i don't want to unless my parents will not find out no matter what. So any advice would be great... Thanks heaps rozi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spugly Fuglet Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 kity is from oz, shes also 16 you could pm her and ask. I feel that you should go ask the counler them selfs ask them strate out. "will what is said here stay here?" if they say yes but no for some things ask which they are and why. as for thinking about ending you life I hope your not. life for the under 16s feels hash some times but there is aways hope and help. others here will give you all you need of each, keep posting and if it gets to much come here and vent we or here to help if we can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost_status Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Well once your 14 your legal to get any confidental medical treatments including counselling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherBrokenDoll Posted August 31, 2006 Author Share Posted August 31, 2006 Thanks i will PM her! As for asking them i may ask my school nurse but i might not be able to. I know she has to call home if i admit feeling like that. But i may be able to ask her without her knwing its for me... I don't no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NKP Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Um well if you say suicide is on your mind and you wont act on it, they cant tell anyone, but if you say yo are thinking about acting on it, they will most likely send you to hospital and have a nurse watching you 24/7 (thats what happened to me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherBrokenDoll Posted August 31, 2006 Author Share Posted August 31, 2006 Ok thanks Kita! Hmmmmmm so scary~!~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Managor Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Straight from a counsellors mouth (though paraphrased, since I don't have a photographic memory): "We'll never give out confidential information to anyone unless there's good reason to believe you're going to put your own life at risk, or someone else's. Or if there's a subpoena." A subpoena is something they'd receive from a court if your suspected of having committed some serious offence, and counsellor notes would be required by law. I think it's also a general case that counsellors will seek a second opinion from a fellow counsellor before revealing to anyone else about any serious threat of suicide. The counsellors are smart enough to know that a lot of people have suicidal thoughts, even for some people very frequently, but that this doesn't correspond directly to them about to attempt suicide. As long as you let the counsellor know that even though you have suicidal thoughts you'd never in the foreseeable future act on them, you'll be find as far as confidentiality goes. I'm from Australia too, and what I said is pretty general for any counselling service accross the country. Hope the counselling goes well, talk to us if you want any more support or just to rant or ask questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherBrokenDoll Posted August 31, 2006 Author Share Posted August 31, 2006 Thanks... But if you are thinking of acting upon them then they put you in a hospital ward... My parents would be contacted... So much to think about so little time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Managor Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 If there's a good chance you're going to try something like that, I think it's very important that you talk to someone about it and whatever's on your mind causing you to feel that way. The first time you see a counsellor, perhaps don't tell them you're considering suicide. Just talk to them about the things that are upsetting you in life, and see if you can get support for that. Do you have enough friends you can talk to about your feelings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallout Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Rozi, why don't you call a counsellor from a public phone and ask them wether they have to reveal such information..if you make it clear you'll only go to them if they will not disclose anything to anyone they might agree thinking that you need counselling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spugly Fuglet Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Thats a very good Idear Fallout, Rozi in the UK we have a think called Child line you call it and talk and they give help, there is info out there that can help in OZ See link removed call Kids Help Line 1800 55 1800 From anywhere in Australia, available 24 Hours toll free Kids Help Line is a professional counselling service based on the principles of empowerment and child centred practice, for children and young people aged 5 to 18 years. See link removed They can give help for where you are. Give them a call befor you do any thing and hear what they have to say. You have time and there is always hope where there is life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherBrokenDoll Posted September 2, 2006 Author Share Posted September 2, 2006 Managor: Yeah i have plenty of friends that i can talk to about stuff, but we are 15 they don't want to be listening to me going on about my pathetic life they wanna party. I hate leaning on my friends so much cuz i know i just hurt them. Fallout: Maybe i'll try that if i really can't take it at all. But i'm scared! Its terrifying even thinking that I would need one. I was always the happy chld. I'm the one that helps my friends and everyone its very hard for me to ask for help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherBrokenDoll Posted September 2, 2006 Author Share Posted September 2, 2006 I can't call anyone when i feel like that. Cuz i'm always at home and i run to my room and the phone is in the middle of the house... So i'm screwed! The other thing is its hard for me to open up to new people! I don't know how i'd trust a councillor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spugly Fuglet Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 The other thing is its hard for me to open up to new people! Humm you seem to be doing well here Rozi so I think you will be ok with the call line trust me. as for the Phone yep that is a problem, do you have a girlfreand with a phone call from there house it may make it eser if not and safe call box will do for that 1st chat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallout Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Hi again...another idea : how is your family's financial situation rozi? If you can afford paying for counselling but don't have the balls...err nm u don't have them anyway - the guts to talk to a shrink face to face I'm sure you can do it online. Just google "online counselling" it will get you alot of results...first one I popped up had 90$/hour fee, with a minimum of 30$/20min so if you or your family can come up with a few hundred a month for that you can try it.. Hope this helps, hang in there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty1607307441 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Rozi, you have my absoloute consent to lean on me whenever, wherever, however, if ever you need to. Dont feel bad about leaning on your friends for support. Friendship is all about leaning and lending support. Help each other. Can you seriously see ME partying rather then helping a friend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dregnought Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Rozi.... hun, the best way to find out is to search up the Australian law online.. I'm flat out at the moment, but when you get online we'll talk then ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty1607307441 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Rozi call me anytime you need to talk or if you don't feel like talking then write an email or letter. Just let all your feelings flow into words. Also on a completely unrelated topic OMG I FEEL SOOOO BAD i ate gelatin accidently Shay gave me one of those grub wormies lollies and i forgot to check =/ so i feel really bad. There goes my 6 week Vegan streak. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NKP Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Hey i know what you mean by you find it hard to talk, i am the same. I went and try to talk to someone but when ever i did they always sent me to hospital, coz they made me worse and just reminded myself about alot of my past, and it made me worse than i was, so i just went to the doctor for meds and she told me if i ever feel like hurting myself tell her and since then i have been ok better than i use to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dregnought Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 You could pretend that the councillor was one of us, your friends... might help. I was the same - when I went in. I forced myself though, and it did result in happpiness for a little while. I just wish I said more... They say dont regret life... go and talk and tell them everything. edit - Kids help line - theres also a website setup which does the same service... I dont know the url - but gooogle is always there to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Managor Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 link removed That's the link Dregnought is referring to. Perfectly understandable if you find it harder to open up to someone in real life or over the phone compared to online, so that may help. You could start off by letting the counsellor know you're very nervous and are not good at talking to strangers about your problems, they should reassure you and you'll know they won't be expecting you to be able to say all that's on your mind straight off the bat. Matty and Dregnought offered to chat to you, it might make you feel better if you can talk about how you're feeling more to people, so it probably wouldn't hurt to take them up on the offer. PM/MSN me if you want more people to chat to. And Rozi, you're right that most 15 year olds probably aren't going to be very good at sitting down with someone and listening/giving advice on their problems, but some will; Have you tried talking about it with your closest friends? Your life is not pathetic and you won't be hurting your friends by leaning on them, the ones that genuinely care about you will be glad that they can help you out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dregnought Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Heh - I found out last night that Matty is (i assume??) a close friend of Rozi, as am I. I do know she talks to me alot about her problems, as well as (some) of her other close friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherBrokenDoll Posted September 3, 2006 Author Share Posted September 3, 2006 My close friends are different. Matty is an amazing friend as is Dreg so i talk to them... I talk to my bestie and Liza to but never the whole story. I have one person who i tell most things to and actually feel comfortable talking to and i dunno i guess i just trust him. This guys dad said he would take me to a councilling place to help me out. I want to go but thats alot of lying. And i mean alot. So i don't know what to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dregnought Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 uhhh... whos lieing? you to the councillor? that dad to you?? i'm lost.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherBrokenDoll Posted September 4, 2006 Author Share Posted September 4, 2006 Me to my family... But that isn't gonna be a problem anymore. My nan wants me to get councilling but she doesn't know about the cutting or anything else. But she thinks it would be good for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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