Annnnnd we all tested

[boltnrun]

I think people have just decided to live with it. They're not going to mask or distance or avoid gathering in groups. They're tired of missing out on things and they're tired of following safety protocols. So we all just have to accept that we'll be exposed, IMO.

I presume I'll get it again. But I'm about to have my fifth shot (!) and I truly believe the booster shots are what prevented me from getting sick the last two times I was directly exposed.

I do hope you and your family feel better very soon.

[LikeWater]

0% of the vaccine prevented you from getting sick, they were an army against the infection itself.  Nothing can prevent it, but there's a lot that can improve your 'forces' so to speak.

A vaccine fights the associated infection well, hopefully.  It isn't a prevention.

[mylolita]

8 hours ago, Seraphim said:

We have Tylenol cold and flu and Motrin but it isn’t helping my son or husband. I am not as bad because I had 4 shots . My husband was supposed to get his 4th this week. And my son only had 2. They are both burning up . But I am not as hot as them or at least I can’t tell. 

Women seem to fair better with it I find Seraphim, bit like the flu. Ever heard of the dreaded “man flu?!” It’s actually legit! Me a immune systems are different to women’s, they handle the flu differently, it is actually worse for them generally speaking! 
 

Get better soon!

 

We all had it the week we moved in, 3 weeks ago. I was okay, bit of a temperature, sore throat. My daughter got a temperature but her illness only lasted a day. A week later - ugh. My husband is in bed, asleep for 3 days straight. Boiling hot. Won’t eat anything, just so much worse than us. My son never even got any symptoms! Bizarre isn’t it! I think you can just catch it again and again because someone else we know had it and two days straight I’ve had a sore throat again as if hey fight this one off low key again hiiii! 🤪 I haven’t tested though so might just be too many 1am late night sessions and a mild cold! Orrrrr shouting up at the kids to eat their breakfast, either!   
 

Hope you feel better soon! 
 

x

[mylolita]

I think most of the medical profession now, especially general practitioners, just see covid as the flu, which, it is, a variation of a respiratory virus. And the flu virus, you can’t take anything unless infection develops as a secondary thing due to the flu virus. I think their response is always going to be what a doctors response would be to a patient with the flu: plenty of rest, liquids, being your temperature down, electrolyte or glucose drinks to perk you up, avoid caffeine, smoking and alcohol and plenty of vitamins especially vitamin C, D and zinc. Unless you get complications I doubt (well, here in the UK anyway) they are going to give you therapeutics or anti-viral medication.

 

I think you’ll be fine Seraphim! It’s riding out the first 3-5 days seem the worst for some people! 
 

x

[mylolita]

Y’know, just an observation - sometimes with covid, it seems like people ride out the worst flu type symptoms for 3/5 days, maybe a week; maybe less. They feel fine and pretty much recovered, maybe a little tired. But then symptoms come back again a week or so later. Headache, sore throat, tiredness, even the aches and chills. Has anyone else noticed that with this virus? There is a dormant stage for some people where you feel better, then there is a second round! The whole thing can come and go, on and off for about a month or so? 

 

x

[Batya33]

11 hours ago, Seraphim said:

My neighbour went and got us more cold pills and Gatorade and soup and 5 boxes of tests. She got us two 24 packs of Gatorade. 

I hope you are feeling much better today!

[Seraphim]

14 minutes ago, Batya33 said:

I hope you are feeling much better today!

Unfortunately, no, none of us slept all night and feel just as crappy and feverish and body aches as before. Ugh. 

[boltnrun]

I was feeling unwell for a full month and had several relapses over the next few weeks. But fortunately I never felt severely sick. I was able to do basic things for myself.

Is your husband's clinic open today? And chance of getting the oral treatment medication from his doctor?

[Seraphim]

11 minutes ago, boltnrun said:

I was feeling unwell for a full month and had several relapses over the next few weeks. But fortunately I never felt severely sick. I was able to do basic things for myself.

Is your husband's clinic open today? And chance of getting the oral treatment medication from his doctor?

I think I heard them talking to him through the nap I had this morning. I will have to ask him what they said. But here they pretty much leave you be until you walk yourself into a hospital and then you might sit there for 16 hours or more . 
 

I hope it doesn’t take me a month. I have to be working by next week. I will just have to struggle through whatever . 
 

I am so glad you are better now . 💜 I know we will be infected again at some point but I hope subsequent infections will be easier. 

[Seraphim]

6 hours ago, mylolita said:

I think most of the medical profession now, especially general practitioners, just see covid as the flu, which, it is, a variation of a respiratory virus. And the flu virus, you can’t take anything unless infection develops as a secondary thing due to the flu virus. I think their response is always going to be what a doctors response would be to a patient with the flu: plenty of rest, liquids, being your temperature down, electrolyte or glucose drinks to perk you up, avoid caffeine, smoking and alcohol and plenty of vitamins especially vitamin C, D and zinc. Unless you get complications I doubt (well, here in the UK anyway) they are going to give you therapeutics or anti-viral medication.

 

I think you’ll be fine Seraphim! It’s riding out the first 3-5 days seem the worst for some people! 
 

x

I am hoping by the five day point we might see some improvement. At least it seems my son’s really high fever has broken so he is winning the war against the virus. I think being Autistic he feels body sensations more fully. Some feel less and others feel more . 

[Seraphim]

9 hours ago, LikeWater said:

0% of the vaccine prevented you from getting sick, they were an army against the infection itself.  Nothing can prevent it, but there's a lot that can improve your 'forces' so to speak.

A vaccine fights the associated infection well, hopefully.  It isn't a prevention.

Yes, I totally understand. 

[Seraphim]

10 hours ago, boltnrun said:

I think people have just decided to live with it. They're not going to mask or distance or avoid gathering in groups. They're tired of missing out on things and they're tired of following safety protocols. So we all just have to accept that we'll be exposed, IMO.

I presume I'll get it again. But I'm about to have my fifth shot (!) and I truly believe the booster shots are what prevented me from getting sick the last two times I was directly exposed.

I do hope you and your family feel better very soon.

I have been directly exposed at least 5 times and just got it this time . I had my 4th shot 2 weeks ago . My husband was supposed to get his this week but no point now he has to wait 3 months now I believe . 
 

Talked to him and told him that he can return to work 24 hours after being symptom free and had to wear a medical mask for 10 days after returning to work. 

[itsallgrand]

I hope you and your family feel better soon ❤

 

[Seraphim]

6 minutes ago, itsallgrand said:

I hope you and your family feel better soon ❤

 

Thank you . ❤️I am so glad my son’s fever broke. It is so scary to have an adult with a severe fever for several days. Finally yesterday we covered him in cool cloths and had him drink 3 massive glasses of water. It is what I used to do when he was little . My husband is showing a bit of improvement. 

[boltnrun]

It took me ten days before I tested negative. In that time I had to continue to isolate because I knew as long as I was still positive there was a chance I could infect others. My brother tested negative in only seven days. And my son's spouse who took the medication tested negative three days after initially testing positive. My son was like me, ten days before he tested negative. So it's all over the place. Different experiences and different levels of severity.

Age is a factor but it's not set in stone. My nephew was a 22 year old college athlete and he got the most sick out of all of us! It took him over a year to be able to taste food again. Poor kid!

I'm glad your son's fever is reducing. That has to be helping a lot to make him feel better.

[Seraphim]

14 minutes ago, boltnrun said:

It took me ten days before I tested negative. In that time I had to continue to isolate because I knew as long as I was still positive there was a chance I could infect others. My brother tested negative in only seven days. And my son's spouse who took the medication tested negative three days after initially testing positive. My son was like me, ten days before he tested negative. So it's all over the place. Different experiences and different levels of severity.

Age is a factor but it's not set in stone. My nephew was a 22 year old college athlete and he got the most sick out of all of us! It took him over a year to be able to taste food again. Poor kid!

I'm glad your son's fever is reducing. That has to be helping a lot to make him feel better.

Yeah , I have almost no sense of smell or very very little and my sense of taste is very minimal. It is enough to keep an interest in food. We ate our first solid food today. We might be turning a small corner. 
 

I know we continue to shed the virus for a bit after feeling better . 

[reinventmyself]

oh. . I just saw this.  Hoping this means you are all turning the corner!   Sorry this happened.

[mylolita]

36 minutes ago, boltnrun said:

It took me ten days before I tested negative. In that time I had to continue to isolate because I knew as long as I was still positive there was a chance I could infect others. My brother tested negative in only seven days. And my son's spouse who took the medication tested negative three days after initially testing positive. My son was like me, ten days before he tested negative. So it's all over the place. Different experiences and different levels of severity.

Age is a factor but it's not set in stone. My nephew was a 22 year old college athlete and he got the most sick out of all of us! It took him over a year to be able to taste food again. Poor kid!

I'm glad your son's fever is reducing. That has to be helping a lot to make him feel better.

Yes! It is funny with a virus like the flu - you have someone peak fitness and their immune system is almost too good, it goes into overdrive and goes in too hard!

 

I think, and please anyone correct me if I’m totally off here, it can cause a cytokine storm within the body. The variations of virus can affect peoples immune systems in so many ways. Do you guys remember the Spanish Flu? The last big outbreak? It was killing healthy young adults 18-25 and leaving older people alone. It was something to do with the type of strain of virus, and how a very healthy and robust immune system was over responding too it!

 

Anyone good at history or listened more in biology, you can help me out here 🥲😉

 

They say children get covid the mildest due to their “first responder” immune cells being fine tuned and un-aged. This alert initial reaction from the body wears with age. 
 

 

x

 

 

[Seraphim]

38 minutes ago, reinventmyself said:

oh. . I just saw this.  Hoping this means you are all turning the corner!   Sorry this happened.

I think so. My son is more than moaning and rolling his eyes in his head. We ate our first solid food in 3 days even if just a piece of toast. We have been surviving on Gatorade water and Lipton soup. 

[Seraphim]

33 minutes ago, mylolita said:

Yes! It is funny with a virus like the flu - you have someone peak fitness and their immune system is almost too good, it goes into overdrive and goes in too hard!

 

I think, and please anyone correct me if I’m totally off here, it can cause a cytokine storm within the body. The variations of virus can affect peoples immune systems in so many ways. Do you guys remember the Spanish Flu? The last big outbreak? It was killing healthy young adults 18-25 and leaving older people alone. It was something to do with the type of strain of virus, and how a very healthy and robust immune system was over responding too it!

 

Anyone good at history or listened more in biology, you can help me out here 🥲😉

 

They say children get covid the mildest due to their “first responder” immune cells being fine tuned and un-aged. This alert initial reaction from the body wears with age. 
 

 

x

 

 

I think my son’s immune system over fired, but he is on the mend. He has always had issues with severe fevers though. My husband is always the first to recover. He has an outstanding constitution and immune system . Me , I rarely get a fever but my histamine production is crazy. 

[boltnrun]

1 minute ago, Seraphim said:

I think my son’s immune system over fired, but he is on the mend. He has always had issues with severe fevers though. My husband is always the first to recover. He has an outstanding constitution and immune system . Me , I rarely get a fever but my histamine production is crazy. 

It's so odd how the same strain of the same virus affects people so differently.

We had OG Covid back in 2020. My nephew had diarrhea, vomiting and loss of taste and smell. My brother had fever, cough and extreme fatigue and body aches. I had a sore throat, headache, sore rib cartilage, fatigue and body aches. I never had a cough or a fever and none of us had shortness of breath. 

My cousin also had it in 2020 and she was hospitalized with pneumonia and had to be placed on oxygen (not a ventilator). And she's only in her 40s.

As for how it affects children, I saw a heartbreaking story of a three year old boy who was obviously too young to be vaccinated (at the time). His parents didn't want to get vaccinated. They ended up getting infected and then infecting him. The poor little guy had to be put on a ventilator. He was sobbing and promising "Mommy, I'll be a good boy!!" because he was of course terrified, especially since his parents couldn't be in the room with him. He thought if he promised to be good they wouldn't put him on the ventilator. My heart broke for that sweet little guy. I hope he turned out OK.

I'm glad that, relatively speaking, you and your family are recovering well. I hope it passes quickly and you're back feeling better soon.

[Seraphim]

I have totally lost my sense it smell but everyone else is ok with that. I am sure it will return. 
 

I hope that little guy turned out ok too . Most ventilation victims don’t make it . 

[mylolita]

5 hours ago, boltnrun said:

It's so odd how the same strain of the same virus affects people so differently.

We had OG Covid back in 2020. My nephew had diarrhea, vomiting and loss of taste and smell. My brother had fever, cough and extreme fatigue and body aches. I had a sore throat, headache, sore rib cartilage, fatigue and body aches. I never had a cough or a fever and none of us had shortness of breath. 

My cousin also had it in 2020 and she was hospitalized with pneumonia and had to be placed on oxygen (not a ventilator). And she's only in her 40s.

As for how it affects children, I saw a heartbreaking story of a three year old boy who was obviously too young to be vaccinated (at the time). His parents didn't want to get vaccinated. They ended up getting infected and then infecting him. The poor little guy had to be put on a ventilator. He was sobbing and promising "Mommy, I'll be a good boy!!" because he was of course terrified, especially since his parents couldn't be in the room with him. He thought if he promised to be good they wouldn't put him on the ventilator. My heart broke for that sweet little guy. I hope he turned out OK.

I'm glad that, relatively speaking, you and your family are recovering well. I hope it passes quickly and you're back feeling better soon.

We now know that putting someone on a ventilator when they have covid is one of the worst treatments! 
 

Looking back, you can see the medical profession in panic.

 

Absolutely heartbreaking story! Anti-viral medication is definitely the key, and therapeutics. A lot of people died due to the ventilators - they rarely put covid patients on them now. The risk of introducing bacteria into already stressed and struggling lungs when you use a ventilator is very high. They are often not cleaned properly, and need a whole host of specialist medical professionals to monitor and use the ventilator properly. At the time of the pandemic, they didn’t have the staff to do this, and still don’t in the UK now 
 

We have a few good friends who are medical consultants - they outright told us, directly - do not let them put you on a ventilator if you have covid, it will see you off. 
 

You may think I am sensationalising here, I am just honestly repeating what our friends have told us. They stated the only reason anyone with covid should be on a ventilator is if that patient is facing certain death. They were aghast to find patients being put on ventilation when many other alternative and successful options had not been exhausted, and would have worked, for the majority of ventilation cases.

 

Anyway, take what you will from that! I realise it is easy to think I may be making this up to credit a point but chillingly, I have had many a late night discussion with friends in the medical profession and it’s never been that comforting. 
 

Terribly, the best advice is actually to stay out of hospital! Well, in the UK, anyway! 
 

Seraphim, you guys will be fine! You sound like you are feeling better already 😌
 

x

[boltnrun]

According to the story, the little boy was going down fast and badly. It was an absolute last resort. Of course no one would want to put a tiny child through that unless nothing else was working. Poor little guy.

They do have better treatments now, thankfully. Like I mentioned, my son's spouse was put on Pavloxid (spelling?) and was symptom free and testing negative in three days. My son didn't get the medication and was sick for about a week and tested positive for ten days. 

Seraphim, it seems like rest and fluids are doing well for you. I'm glad.

[Seraphim]

24 minutes ago, mylolita said:

We now know that putting someone on a ventilator when they have covid is one of the worst treatments! 
 

Looking back, you can see the medical profession in panic.

 

Absolutely heartbreaking story! Anti-viral medication is definitely the key, and therapeutics. A lot of people died due to the ventilators - they rarely put covid patients on them now. The risk of introducing bacteria into already stressed and struggling lungs when you use a ventilator is very high. They are often not cleaned properly, and need a whole host of specialist medical professionals to monitor and use the ventilator properly. At the time of the pandemic, they didn’t have the staff to do this, and still don’t in the UK now 
 

We have a few good friends who are medical consultants - they outright told us, directly - do not let them put you on a ventilator if you have covid, it will see you off. 
 

You may think I am sensationalising here, I am just honestly repeating what our friends have told us. They stated the only reason anyone with covid should be on a ventilator is if that patient is facing certain death. They were aghast to find patients being put on ventilation when many other alternative and successful options had not been exhausted, and would have worked, for the majority of ventilation cases.

 

Anyway, take what you will from that! I realise it is easy to think I may be making this up to credit a point but chillingly, I have had many a late night discussion with friends in the medical profession and it’s never been that comforting. 
 

Terribly, the best advice is actually to stay out of hospital! Well, in the UK, anyway! 
 

Seraphim, you guys will be fine! You sound like you are feeling better already 😌
 

x

We have turned a corner for sure . My son is up and about now. My husband got dressed today. I am lagging a bit behind but improving .