fourteen Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 First time posting here. Before we start, I know that what Im about to describe was completely wrong, I know I was selfish, I was stupid, and every other bad thing you want to call me. That being said I would appreciate for honest opinions and advices. You may feel the need to insult me, but believe me I have told myself every insult in the planet, I know I did wrong. This is my story. I have been a cheater and a situational liar. My last long relationship (before the one I want to discuss) was with someone whom I didn't love, and instead of leaving the relationship like a good person should do I stayed because I thought that the person with whom I was with deserved happiness and since she was good to me and was there for me in hard times of my life I convinced myself that I should stayed with her even though I didn't love her. But then I met someone and fell in love. I met this new woman who completely changed me, I fell in love like Ive never felt before. I did what people always say people like me don't do: I confronted my actual partner, told her what had happened broke it off with her and then after some time I pursued this thing with the new person. I felt alive again, I felt like I had gotten a second chance at life and for the first time in a long time I was genuinely happy. My new partner (lets call her Maria), knew about my past and was skeptical of starting a serious relationship with me. But I stood there and showed her that there was no reason to doubt me, that even though I made those mistakes in the past, I knew that this time was different because I loved her. I wasn't/aren't proud of what I had done but I knew I had to move on and try to be the best person. After some time, Maria gave me a chance and we started a serious relationship and every day I worked towards being better, but I have to admit that I felt very afraid of losing Maria, to the point that even though I wouldn't lie when she asked me about my past, I would try to put the truth in a nicer way because it affected me too much what she thought of me. But she always told me that she was sort of obsessed with the truth, that no matter what happened, to always tell her the truth, and I agreed. After 2 years of being with Maria and 1 year living together we started to have some relationship issues, things outside of us were affecting us (work, family, money) and sadly during that time Maria had to leave for work and would stayed abroad for a few months. When she left things were rocky, but we promised to make things work. Before Maria had left I started a new job in which my co-workers were younger (I am 40 and my coworkers are usually 22-23). So every now and then I would go out with my coworkers (Marie knew this) and I have to say I felt old. I was never an outcast growing up, and for some reason being with this group of young people made me feel out of place and with Maria not being here with me this started to affect me more than it should have. So i fell for the stupid and childish crap of wanting to impress this people (stupid stupid stupid) and did things I a ashamed of. I wasn't intimate with anyone, but I flirted with females, exchange numbers and I knew I never had the intention of doing anything with them I wanted to "prove" that I wasn't old and out of "the game". YES, I AM AWARE AT HOW STUPID THIS WAS. Apart from that I visited a few strip clubs, to show how "cool" I was but thats about it At one point I almost took it to a next level but i decided against it. After a month, Maria came home for the weekend and she saw in my phone a conversation with a woman, where I was flirting she obviously questioned me and I lied and lied and lied, after some time Maria sort of found out about some things from a 3rd party, and begged me for the truth and knowing that I had lost her already, I sat down and came clean about everything. She left me and ask me to not pursue her anymore, I complied. After another month, she called me, cause we had to settle some things, and we talked and I apologized and told her how stupid everything I did was, and her response was that she would have understood most of what had happened but the fact that I lied, and she had to learn everything from a 3party was reason enough for her to not trust me anymore. And that ever though she love me, and felt like I was perfect for her, she wasn't gonna put herself in a situation where she will doubt everything I tell her. This is my dilemma; I love Maria. (I know ppl thing that after doing what I did, i couldn't say I love her but I do). I know she loves me and we were perfect together. I know how big I messed up and I know that I made it almost impossible for her to trust me, but I now see things differently, I now understand that if maybe I would have talked how I felt with her and leaned on her for support and put honesty as my top priority everything would still be great. After causing so much hurt, should I let her go or should I try to win her back? And if the answer is try to win her back, how should I? What can I do to fix my issues and fix the relationship? [i want to clarify (not justifying myself) that this wasn't the first time Maria left the country for work and lasted a few months, I don't want you guys to think that at the first time she was out I started doing bad things because that wasn't the case. 2 months before this all happened she had left the country for 3 months and everything was fine.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loriana Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 When you realized the woman before Maria wasn't the one instead of dealing with the situation you ran away from it into the arms of Maria. And when things with Maria were "rocky" instead of dealing with that situation you decided to flirt with other women. Do you see the pattern here?. You run away when things get tough, this is a deep issue within yourself that you need to work on. I would let Maria go and focus on yourself otherwise this issue will become a vicious cycle that you'll never get out of it. I would suggest getting some therapy to help determine why you deal with problems in the way that you do. It is unlikely that Maria will trust you fully again because once the trust has gone it's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unreasonable Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Well, to fix yourself, start off by seeing a therapist. There is no point in even thinking about getting back with her until you have made measurable steps to improve yourself and make sure this never happens again. I wouldn't try to get her back. If, after you have worked out your issues, she comes to you, fine, maybe give it a go. But ONLY if you're being completely honest with yourself that this will NEVER happen again. It is absolutely imperative that you not allow your feelings for her to cloud your judgement as to whether you have really changed. I think it would be best to chalk up your relationship with Maria as a life lesson, and use it to your benefit in your next relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourteen Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 Thanks very much for your reply! I have made an appointment with a therapist and will see her next week. I understand the need of letting Maria go, but I am honest when I say that I believe that was/is the love of my life. I still wish for a future together and even though when all this happened I respected her wish of staying away, I know from recent conversations with her that she still loves me and sometimes find herself debating wether or not we should try this in the long run. That being said, I understand the importance of fixing myself before pursuing anything with her but I do wonder if it would help to make her know that I am dealing with my issues and taking it very seriously, because I do not want her to convince herself that I stopped caring, if she ever does want to give me another shot. Should I let her know? Or should I just make a clean cut and further down the line when Ive dealt with everything and have something of more value to offer her, try to start from 0 (if she is interested of course)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unreasonable Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I think you should make a clean cut, and whatever happens, happens. You are not ready. Don't do anything until you are (if you ever are). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissCanuck Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I wouldn't attempt trying to get her back right now. There is no way she will trust that you have actually changed; the betrayal is still far too fresh. She is conflicted because she's trying to reconcile the man she thought you were (trustworthy, honest, loyal) with the man you really are. It's going to take considerable time to change the man you really are. After you've identified why you behaved this way, and learned the proper tools to cope and rectify your behaviour, then you might want to think about approaching her. Sooner than that, and I can just about guarantee it will get very messy. There are too many hurt feelings and too much freshly-broken trust for it to go well at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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