chikokevo Posted March 2, 2017 Posted March 2, 2017 Hey guys! Am 23 guy, never had an official girlfriend, only few pity tries. I dont have a job currently, and the one i am trying to get into is going so slow. I hate my studies. Im dying from loneliness, but im still alive. I though why wouldnt I try to shine my life with some serious relationship? Although its pretty hard for me with girls, i know need one. Anyway, what do you think of Shogun Method, by Derek Rake? Is it working? Is it worth it? P.S. please answer if you truly know full potential of Shogun Method..
abitbroken Posted March 2, 2017 Posted March 2, 2017 I don't know anything about Shogun, but can tell you that right now you will come across as desperate and lonely. Find out how to create some happiness and greatfulness in your life - get that job or another one and THEN look to meet someone. Lonely, desperate, unemployed, hating a study path YOU picked and seeing yourself as the "pity" choice makes you very unappealing unless you meet a woman who is looking for men to "fix". If you were unemployed but looking and NOT lonely or desperate, and loved your field of study - you would have more to go on. But right now you will only find diminishing returns unless you seek our women who are also desperate, lonely and negative
Dahl Posted March 2, 2017 Posted March 2, 2017 Why are you starting with this as your opening salvo into the world of serious dating? S'a genuine question; I'm not being sarcastic.
Wiseman2 Posted March 2, 2017 Posted March 2, 2017 Don't use gimmicks to get dates. Get on some dating apps and start messaging and meeting girls for coffee. In school make small talk for a while and then suggest doing something together like getting a snack or coffee.
Dahl Posted March 2, 2017 Posted March 2, 2017 Erm. Just pulled randomly from a quick Internet search on anyone with first hand experience with the Shogun Method: "I subscribed to Derek's emails and I get these stories from his students about enslaving women in attraction".. I stopped at *enslaving* *women* *in* *attraction*. And, OP, I recommend you do, too. I'm with abitbroken.
chikokevo Posted March 2, 2017 Author Posted March 2, 2017 I know wht youre all saying, i have already read stuff like that on internet, while searching for a right path. I know what to do, i dont know how to do it... I mean as for a job, im on edge, i can go on and get any sucky job, but i want a job that makes more differencem more interesting and exciting, not like a bartender, pizza boy etc..
Dahl Posted March 2, 2017 Posted March 2, 2017 Ach, I couldn't help myself!! OP, I next found this, from another article about firsthand experience: "As such, if you're looking for pickup advice or "how to be attractive" type of advice then it's probably not for you." I hope this helps. Good luck.
chikokevo Posted March 2, 2017 Author Posted March 2, 2017 You dont believe in it or what? is it not suitable for me?
Dahl Posted March 2, 2017 Posted March 2, 2017 What if you focused on something else for a bit instead of career? Which I appreciate is a dead difficult endeavor at times, given our society's penchant for opening small talk with, 'what do you *do*?' as though it is the only thing that defines someone. For example, my kind of guy is extremely well read. What hobbies, interests do you have?
Dahl Posted March 2, 2017 Posted March 2, 2017 You dont believe in it or what? is it not suitable for me? I unequivocally do not believe in it. More importantly, I'm wholeheartedly with abitbroken, here. It would shut down my interest in the person spouting it, at once and permanently.
chikokevo Posted March 2, 2017 Author Posted March 2, 2017 Well its hard to tell, I like my bmw and everything that goes around and inside it, i love modifying it. But thats not it. The problem is that I do not know my hobbies
Wiseman2 Posted March 2, 2017 Posted March 2, 2017 Bartenders get lots of dates. It may help your social skills. It's fine to have a part-time job while you study. i can go on and get any sucky job, but i want a job that makes more differencem more interesting and exciting, not like a bartender, pizza boy etc.. ]
Dahl Posted March 2, 2017 Posted March 2, 2017 From a 'what to expect when purchasing the Shogun Method' article: "There's an entire section on "Enslavement" which talks about how to segregate a woman from the outside world and make her dependent fully on you." Is this even remotely what you want, OP?
Dahl Posted March 2, 2017 Posted March 2, 2017 Creepy is an understatement. Felonious sounds like a better fit, though.
Dahl Posted March 2, 2017 Posted March 2, 2017 By all means, talk about your bmx. Have you tried finding local meet up groups for other people with this hobby?
Dahl Posted March 2, 2017 Posted March 2, 2017 Wow. Just, wow. From an article about firsthand experience with the Shogun Method: "this stuff is pretty heavy on persuasion / hypnosis which borderlines on manipulation and emotional blackmail" Well, now I believe that it's got real potential to put you in prison.
Dahl Posted March 2, 2017 Posted March 2, 2017 And here's one of the *nicer* user reviews: "Some very dark material inside the Shogun Method which I don't recommend to newbies. This stuff should've come with a warning label... not a joke."
chikokevo Posted March 2, 2017 Author Posted March 2, 2017 That wont put you in prison, becouse to be put away, you need an evidence aginst you. Im sorry, but unlike most people, i dont know any other ending of relationship that getting my heart sliced in two. Every time it happens...
Dahl Posted March 2, 2017 Posted March 2, 2017 Why don't you bring up your bmx to potential dates, immediately, as well? It'd catch my attention.
Dahl Posted March 2, 2017 Posted March 2, 2017 This stuff is fascinating, in a gritty, pre-trial kinda way. From an official description of the Shogun Method: "Shogun Method: To Attract Is To Enslave The core of the Shogun Method is what termed as “Enslavement” strategies – these are used to segregate a woman and isolate her from the outside world. When used correctly, a woman will drift away separated from her family and circle of friends. At the same time, she will grow more attached to you emotionally. Soon, she will be sucked into a world consisting only you and her."
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