JA0371 Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 In what cases would it be considered serious enough to sue someone for slander? Whether business or personal? Thoughts?? Thanks..
Moontiger Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 You would have to talk to a lawyer to be sure. I did find this: link removed I'm pretty sure that the American and Canadian laws are very similar.
Steve55 Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 Legally, slander is a defamatory oral statement, damaging one's reputation. This is opposed to someone writing the same statement, in which case, the statement could be libel. The statement has to be something more than someone going around saying you are a bad person. It needs to be a serious allegation that has damaged your reputation. Also, it must be false. Truth is the ultimate defense to slander. The person making the statement must have communicated it to others and he must know it was false. Please be sure to consult a good attorney. Hope that helps.
JA0371 Posted July 10, 2012 Author Posted July 10, 2012 Ok I checked the site thank you!!! I Recently found out that my ex who is a COP told a former co worker who now works somewhere else, that I have been STALKING him...***???? So..If he is a cop then why hasn't he arrested me for it??? Lol it is ridiculous. I even avoided the same gym for months so I wouldn't see him. Needless to say I am livid. He is accusing me of a CRIME. According to that site...that is slander. What a jerk!!! I don't know if HE is the one who said it, but it had to of come from him. I left a nasty VM telling him if I hear this rumor again I am going to sue him for slander...and I WILL!!!
Messiah Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 A little hearsay doesn't sound like a legitimate reason to sue someone for slander. Especially considering you aren't sure if he is even the one who said it. In the process of a breakup you have to understand that not everything an ex says about you is going to be nice, suing sounds impractical and I'm sure most lawyers would agree that you sound a little bit nuts. Maybe you should back off of him, forget about him, and not contact him and leave threatening messages to sue him.
The_Seeker Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 Sorry i would sue for slander if it is damaging my career and what I am passionate about which is saving children. If that idiot ruin my reputation for false statement, I will make sure my case will go to the Supreme Court. LOL I'm not backing down.
JA0371 Posted July 10, 2012 Author Posted July 10, 2012 No...the 'stalking' message definetely came from HIm. No one else knew about us...not from ME. And I am far from nuts. I am livid that he is spreading vicious lies about me. Stalking is a CRIME. I have a right to defend my reputation.
Moontiger Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 I'm pretty sure you would have to prove that him saying what he said caused you damage in some way, this can included, mental, emotional, damage to your reputation etc. PROVING it is the difficult part, is the person he said this to willing to testify? How do you quantify the damage that has been done to you? etc
JA0371 Posted July 10, 2012 Author Posted July 10, 2012 Ummm it was said in a text message, which I saved. And yes this could damage my reputation. I am a hairdresser in a relatively small town.
The_Seeker Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 Ummm it was said in a text message, which I saved. And yes this could damage my reputation. I am a hairdresser in a relatively small town. Just go ahead and sue. Don't wait til fire burn your butt then you do something.
JA0371 Posted July 10, 2012 Author Posted July 10, 2012 I found out his ex wife was arrested for meth possession a couple months agoand I mentioned ot to him. now I'm being called a 'stalker' lol hilarious. This was told to me by someone who knows him..arrests are public record anyway. Go figure.
abitbroken Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 Nope. I don't think someone telling a friend or coworker "i broke up with this girl. She is totally stalking me" is him accusing you of the crime of stalking. One statement between two people is not going to get all over town and people who know you won't believe it. Afterall, if he really thought you were, he would have charged you. I think calling him and leaving an angry voicemail the minute you heard second hand of a text does not make you look very good, I am afraid to say. it sort of reinforces the rumor if there is one. I would just steer clear of him. Don't call him. Don't show up. Don't stop on the street if you see him. It IS possible in a small town. Just play it cool. Honestly, I lived in a very small town - actually two of them. One was a small 'cute' town that was antique-y and the other one was really in the middle of nowhere where no one went as tourist even by accident. Rumors that my friends said they were the subject of never made it to my ears. I would just heal from the breakup and let it all blow over. I wouldn't sue - i think you are just still smarting from the break up. if he told the paper that you were a shoddy hairdresser and don't deserve to work because you poked someone and drew blood - well then that is libel. Or "she came to my house and tried to break in and threw eggs all over my window"
abitbroken Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 I found out his ex wife was arrested for meth possession a couple months agoand I mentioned ot to him. now I'm being called a 'stalker' lol hilarious. This was told to me by someone who knows him..arrests are public record anyway. Go figure. Well..then he was just upset because he thinks you are keeping tabs on his personal life. Why would you mention that to him if you weren't together? Wouldn't that be rubbing something in his face? Why go there? He would be fully aware if something like that happened to his ex wife and probably didn't need you to inform him.
JA0371 Posted July 10, 2012 Author Posted July 10, 2012 Thanks. I only called him to say if the accusations continue I WILL sue him. I wanted him to know I know he is running his mouth about me and that it's already getting back to me. I could see if I were following him around, or showing up everywhere he went...but I have been actively avoiding him. I sometimes drop off or pick up a co worker near his house, but I never drive on his street. Ever. Again..he is a cop..it just seems like a weaselynway to accuse someone of 'stalking' you. He knows where I work and live...it is ridiculous, malicious hurtful..and above ALL..a LIE. In my voicemail I was calm..and very matter of fact, but I assured him if he did it again I would take legal action. I don't give a damn if he's a cop.
JA0371 Posted July 10, 2012 Author Posted July 10, 2012 Well..then he was just upset because he thinks you are keeping tabs on his personal life. Why would you mention that to him if you weren't together? Wouldn't that be rubbing something in his face? Why go there? He would be fully aware if something like that happened to his ex wife and probably didn't need you to inform him. Because I wanted him to know I heard it from someone else. And again. It's public record. He has a six year old daughter with her and I was concerned..not rubbing his face in it.
JA0371 Posted July 10, 2012 Author Posted July 10, 2012 We are getting way off subject...bottom line is...I am not and have not 'stalked' this guy. I have been stalked...I know the terms of stalking. Telling someone you know something about them is not stalking. In fact I wished him a happy fathers day..and he thanked me. How the hell is that stalking??? I am stumped
annie24 Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 I am not sure, but I think you also have to prove that the slander caused financial harm, like you were denied a job or promotion because of the false rumor. I don't know though, I'm not a lawyer.
abitbroken Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 Because I wanted him to know I heard it from someone else. And again. It's public record. He has a six year old daughter with her and I was concerned..not rubbing his face in it. Sometimes when we are hurting, we use any reason to contact our ex. If he has a six year old daughter and his ex was busted - believe me, he was completely informed. I know you say it is off topic, but what I am telling you is - no, you didn't stalk him, but if you persist in calling him to talk about a rumor you heard or call him to inform him of his personal matters, you are only going to tick him off more. Really - it is a little odd to call and ex and "inform" them about stuff like that.
JA0371 Posted July 10, 2012 Author Posted July 10, 2012 True...this happened before Fathers Day....then I text him Happy Fathers Day..he said thank you so much...not 'stop stalking or harassing me'. Now out of the blue he is telling people ai am stalking him?? Lol....yeah probably why he hasn't 'reported' me because it's ridiculous.
Messiah Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 If he said it, which I could understand, he probably used the term very loosely. Not everyone uses words by their dictionary definition. He was probably referring to your continued contact with him. He wants to be left alone. Leave him alone. Don't call him or text him, not even to wish him a happy father's day.
JA0371 Posted July 10, 2012 Author Posted July 10, 2012 If he said it, which I could understand, he probably used the term very loosely. Not everyone uses words by their dictionary definition. He was probably referring to your continued contact with him. He wants to be left alone. Leave him alone. Don't call him or text him, not even to wish him a happy father's day. No...accusing someone of stalking you is NOT a loose term. It is a CRIME. Period. I committed no CRIME against this guy...who is a cop and should know better. And many people will take this stuff literally...I don't care how 'loosely' it is said. It's a flat out LIE.
FYI Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 In order to sue for damages resulting from slander (def of character) you have to prove to the courts how your ex boyfriend's comments hurt your reputation and in what way it has damaged your reputation. Be specific in the explanation. Hearsay will not be enough. Were you terminated/fired for it? Did it cause you to lose business? How did you suffer from it?
JA0371 Posted July 10, 2012 Author Posted July 10, 2012 How I have been hurt remains to be seen. No idea how many other people have been told this ridiculous lie. But I am certain I will find out eventually. Cops are seen as authority figures...so no doubt plenty of people will believe the b.s.
JA0371 Posted July 10, 2012 Author Posted July 10, 2012 No worries though...I saved the texts from Fathers Day..he'll look like a lying ass in the end.
annie24 Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 Just remember. If he is telling people you are stalking him, the last thing you should be doing is contacting him anymore.
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