falltopieces Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I'm curious? I'm just wondering?? Well I've considered dating a transguy. I am attracted to him a lot. Odd thing is I never do like men... I like girls. I still identify as straight. And he asked me out I'm not sure if it's gay? I don't know to me he looks like a girl and has his a female body just wants to be call a 'he' doesn't really bother me. What if your gf came out to you as trans. And said she really felt like a man and was guy. Would it be a dealbreaker? I dated him back when he was a girl before I knew I'm obviously still attracted to him. Well he to me just wears different clothing. Anyway would you or not? Link to comment
velvette Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 everyone will answer this differently, but what's important is how YOU feel. I mean, personally I would date anyone regardless of gender, but my boyfriend would have a hard time accepting me if I suddenly turned into a guy (we had this discussion, lol!). even though I'm sure he truly loves me, it would bother him to no end if I suddenly had a penis. but, it would not bother me in the least if his penis dropped off. so, what about you? it seems like it doesn't bother you in your heart, so go for it! Link to comment
falltopieces Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 I couldn't be with anyone who had a penis but him being a transguy that's not an issue really since he doesn't have one. To me the male gender expression is not much a matter Link to comment
falltopieces Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 I was talking about for like straight couples and a partner coming out as transgender as in like a gf and a bf together and the gf or bf came out as transgender ftm and mtf respectively. Link to comment
napo123 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 No. I'm also not you. So if you feel okay about it, which it seems like you do, why not? Link to comment
toby17 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Does your trans-friend identify as gay? Would he let you have vaginal intercourse or go down on him? Because while you might not mind that he doesn't have a penis, he may not identify (or want you to identify him) with his female bits. Link to comment
greywolf Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I think what you said about how you wouldn't date him if he had a penis means that it won't work out. You would be dating a man. Body parts don't matter. You said that he looks like a girl, but he won't want you to see him as a girl. Personally, if my partner came out to me as a trans, it would not change my attraction for them. What I would be concerned about, however, is that I would then be in a relationship that is not understood by society, even looked down on, and that is hard to deal with sometimes. Link to comment
RedDress Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Personally, once you get away from the gay/straight/bi and into the trans, I start to get pretty confused. There's transgender which is different than transsexual which may or may not include a gay or straight element. I'm not trying to be funny or anything but I have a hard time keeping track of what you were born as, what you dress as, what you identify as and what you are attracted to. I think under these circumstances, I would really have to sit down with this person and have a lot of discussion about their sexuality. I would want to understand where they stand, what they feel, who they are attracted to and why, whether going trans-gender ever crossed their mind (usually transgender people start as transsexual, right)? I would need to understand a lot. Personally, whenever any kind of "gray" areas exist around sexuality (also including stuff like "open relationships", etc), I would most definitely not assume anything and ask a lot of questions. Where there is lack of clarity, there is potential for miscommunication resulting in hurt feelings. Link to comment
memento Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I wouldn't be down with that. It would be deceiving to find out the person you were dating was the same sex as you. Anyone can dress like the other sex, and if the body doesn't matter, then age and whether or not they are your dad/mom/brother/sister don't matter too right? I want a girl not a dude. If that did happen to me though I probably would do some Ace Ventura stuff. I do think trannsexuals may have some mental impairment and that probably wouldn't be a relationship I would want to be involved in regardless if we had something in common. As for your situation, transsexuals may be our term for them but they are male or female. This person you are dating may have been born a girl but he is a guy regardless if it's a really a girl. Your dating a guy. Link to comment
Generation Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 No, and nothing will change my mind. Even if they had a lot of estrogen when they were young and went through surgery and all that, some of them turn out good too, like Harisu or Kim Petras, but it's just not for me. If my gf came up to me and told me she was a trans, I'd feel really betrayed. If you're open to it though, you shouldn't let anyone stop you, cause they should be with guys who are open to it. Got a question for you. Does s/he go to the men's washroom or the women's washroom? I ask cause when I worked as security, a male-to-female went into the girl's washroom but she was obviously a guy. I didn't know what to do, my judgment was if they lived their lives as females, then I'll consider them a female. Despite that consideration though, I couldn't date one because political correctness doesn't necessarily coincide with my views. Link to comment
memento Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Legally speaking for a guy turned women to go into a ladies room they have to get the operation and legally be changed to a female before they can legally use the women's bathroom. Link to comment
falltopieces Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 what he dresses like? Like a guy... He feels like a guy and lives like one. I personally am just agender. But this isn't about me... I don't really care/mind that he is socially one of the guys I mean most of my friends are girls I'mnot the type of guy who is one of the guys he's my best friend so emotionally we have some stuff in common I mean I don't mind a romantic relationship with a guy mentally as long as physically it's what I like. I am not really into sex or anything I have issues... Plus I'm not that old so I kinda got an excuse.... Link to comment
memento Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 what he dresses like? Like a guy... He feels like a guy and lives like one. I personally am just agender. But this isn't about me... I don't really care/mind that he is socially one of the guys I mean most of my friends are girls I'mnot the type of guy who is one of the guys he's my best friend so emotionally we have some stuff in common I mean I don't mind a romantic relationship with a guy mentally as long as physically it's what I like. I am not really into sex or anything I have issues... Plus I'm not that old so I kinda got an excuse.... You should explore every unanswered questions you have about yourself. Otherwise you'll have regrets. You only get one life. Link to comment
falltopieces Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 generation dude you're talking about a dude who transition to be a girl. I wouldn't do that I like petit girls like short ones ftms seem to be the same height because they are biological females. Like this one is smaller than me and I'm small for a guy. Kim Petras and harisu are just dudes that are handsome so what many guys are attractive doesn't mean they're girls. Their faces are even straight imo. Link to comment
falltopieces Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 exactly memento I think that too if he dresses like a guy who cares he has a female body idc if he says he's a guy and wants to be a guy. He still has the boobs I like and he has female reproductive organs.... He's a guy that's what he wants me to say idc. I'll say I'm gay if all women are now men idc it's just a name. If it's got a women's body idc. Link to comment
greywolf Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Anyone can dress like the other sex, and if the body doesn't matter, then age and whether or not they are your dad/mom/brother/sister don't matter too right? Personally, I don't think it matters. Link to comment
falltopieces Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 but I disagree transguys aren't mentally ill. They just feel like the opposite sex but my body and mind tells me he's the sex he was born a girl. I can't help that just like he can't help that he feels like a guy right? I have nothing against them..... Transguys are guys who are born female visibly and lives as guys. Transgirls are girls who are born male visibly and live as girls. Get it? Transguys are bio-girls who live as guys. Transgirls are bio-guys who live as girls... Link to comment
falltopieces Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 but to answer the question he goes in the guy's bathroom I don't think other guys care really. I don't for one. Well at first it was odd cuz my girl acquaintances never go in there but it's his right to... Idc... You guys are thinking of a guy who becomes a girl that's not what I'm talking about... Link to comment
memento Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 but I disagree transguys aren't mentally ill. They just feel like the opposite sex but my body and mind tells me he's the sex he was born a girl. I can't help that just like he can't help that he feels like a guy right? I have nothing against them..... Transguys are guys who are born female visibly and lives as guys. Transgirls are girls who are born male visibly and live as girls. Get it? Transguys are bio-girls who live as guys. Transgirls are bio-guys who live as girls... I don't think there is anything "wrong" with transsexuals in the sense of "right and wrong," however it is abnormal. Think, if a human was born a bird they would be considered crazy. But that is the identity their mind has given them. So they aren't mentally ill either. Charles Manson thought he was god, didn't he? That was a extreme comparison, but you get the idea. Link to comment
falltopieces Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 I don't really even believe in gender so emphasis in the social made genders is insane imo. Sexuality is more important than gender imo. Gender is made up imo and made to confuse people who don't fit in it. I only believe in sex as in male and female gender has no evidence of existing besides by people who try to pretend it exists.... Maybe be my reason for dating this guy I guess, either way have a great night... Link to comment
Generation Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Ohh, I think you mean transvestite then. Wait... now I'm confused... Upon reading this again, she's a transvestite, not a transsexual. Link to comment
greywolf Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Ohh, I think you mean transvestite then. Wait... now I'm confused... Upon reading this again, she's a transvestite, not a transsexual. If he identifies as male, then he's not just a crossdresser. Link to comment
Generation Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Still a transvestite, at least by the definition that I know of cause their personal identification is of the other gender. I've always thought of transsexuals as individuals who have undergone a sex change. Maybe I'm wrong, this is confusing. Link to comment
greywolf Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Still a transvestite, at least by the definition that I know of cause their personal identification is of the other gender. I've always thought of transsexuals as individuals who have undergone a sex change. Maybe I'm wrong, this is confusing. That's not what a transvestite is. A transvestite is a cross-dresser. Identification of another gender is transgendered. Link to comment
Generation Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 So she's transgendered and a transvestite. The title is so confusing. Link to comment
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