-John- Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Because it's only fair. Equal opportunity and all that. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capricorn3 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Clearly this is in reference to the thread "Why Ugly Men Don't Get Women". The exact SAME reasons apply. It makes no difference as it is not gender specific. Change the attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22n32 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Ugly women get ugly men and sometimes even attractive men.. so yes they do get men.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulletproof Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I would imagine "ugly" women don't get men for the same reasons as "ugly" men. Zero self-confidence, negative attitude, etc. Same old reasons. However, I do think that in this thread and the other, ugly is indeed a harsh word. Few people are actually what anyone would term ugly, just as few people are supermodels. It's relatively rare. But success at anything is extremely dependent on attitude, dating included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In the Dark Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 From what I have seen they do get men Even the ones with beards. For instance I know this one girl with alcohol fetal syndrome and she gets laid. She looks like goblin to me but it ain't stopping guys I know from going there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-John- Posted January 20, 2011 Author Share Posted January 20, 2011 The exact SAME reasons apply. It makes no difference as it is not gender specific. Change the attitude. Yes, change your attitude...by wearing jeans and graphic t-shirts. Besides, if the previous thread was not gender-specific, then that should have been reflected in the title; and the OP would have made sure not to cite a gender-specific article. But since that was not the case, then we need another gender-specific thread (for women). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22n32 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 From what I have seen they do get men Even the ones with beards. For instance I know this one girl with alcohol fetal syndrome and she gets laid. She looks like goblin to me but it ain't stopping guys I know from going there. Very true. There's always a desperate men that will have sex with anything.. ugly women have it easier finding a partner then ugly men Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherBrokenDoll Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I've noticed as some have said above, 'ugly' (i believe everyone has something beautiful about them) women seem to get men more. I think it may be quantity instead of quality, i would say alot of women would use sex to make them feel better about themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capricorn3 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Yes, change your attitude...by wearing jeans and graphic t-shirts.. HUH?? I have no idea what that's all about. Besides, if the previous thread was not gender-specific, then that should have been reflected in the title; and the OP would have made sure not to cite a gender-specific article. But since that was not the case, then we need another gender-specific thread (for women) If I recall correctly, the member who posted that thread said it was taken from another site. S/he was merely reposting/quoting what s/he read elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-John- Posted January 20, 2011 Author Share Posted January 20, 2011 HUH?? I have no idea what that's all about. Taken from the previous thread, in which user "Cognitive_Canine" told me: "You'd better much better wearing well fitted and sleekly cut darkwash jeans and a nice graphic tee in most cases. That is dressage nice and dressing appropriately for attracting dates." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulletproof Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Why would someone re-post an article for discussion and change the title? I also think it's oversimplifying to interpret that article as "wearing jeans and a graphic t-shirt will change one's life". A more accurate interpretation would be that many guys who do not do well with women will argue tooth and nail when anyone tries to give them advice, because they only know how to be negative and nothing else. Which I think was proven well by the posts on that thread, and will likely be proven well by the posts on this thread. Bitterness is far uglier than any other physical characteristic, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-John- Posted January 20, 2011 Author Share Posted January 20, 2011 A more accurate interpretation would be that many guys who do not do well with women will argue tooth and nail when anyone tries to give them advice, because they only know how to be negative and nothing else. Which I think was proven well by the posts on that thread, and will likely be proven well by the posts on this thread. Bitterness is far uglier than any other physical characteristic, in my opinion. For my part, I simply reject the advice given to me as garbage. For example, I hate jeans. I'm not going to wear clothing I hate just to make it with women. I will stick with my style (pressed slacks and shirts), because that's what I feel good wearing. I feel like myself, which is more important than getting with women. Other things I'm trying to do: (1) Going back to school. (2) Volunteer. (3) Working out. As I've said in other threads, I suspect it's my social anxiety that turns people off; little things in my behavior that seem "off," and that scares women away. Well, since I've already accepted that my social anxiety will probably always be with me, I've decided that I will at last get a girlfriend when a woman decides to get to know me in spite of my social anxiety -- because she's not scared off when I'm not the smoothest guy in the room, but because she sticks with me, tries to understand me, not simply label me a "creeper" and be done with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulletproof Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 You are hyper-focusing on points in a thread that were not meant to be specific. You don't have to wear jeans, just develop some kind of personal style that is interesting and suits you. Or don't. If you want to try to get women your way, that's your choice, but has it worked until now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fIIsion Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Why would someone re-post an article for discussion and change the title? I also think it's oversimplifying to interpret that article as "wearing jeans and a graphic t-shirt will change one's life". A more accurate interpretation would be that many guys who do not do well with women will argue tooth and nail when anyone tries to give them advice, because they only know how to be negative and nothing else. Which I think was proven well by the posts on that thread, and will likely be proven well by the posts on this thread. Bitterness is far uglier than any other physical characteristic, in my opinion. I'm a little unclear by what you mean't in the bolded part. Are you referring to guys in general as posted on that thread or are you suggesting that the guys who disagreed with that thread are themselves negative. Its very early in the morning and perhaps I'm just tired but the only thing that was proven in that thread was that it just highlighted how people like to make stereotypical judgments about others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulletproof Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I'm a little unclear by what you mean't in the bolded part. Are you referring to guys in general as posted on that thread or are you suggesting that the guys who disagreed with that thread are themselves negative. Its very early in the morning and perhaps I'm just tired but the only thing that was proven in that thread was that it just highlighted how people like to make stereotypical judgments about others. Are you a guy who has trouble dating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fIIsion Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Are you a guy who has trouble dating? I'm actually married but I guess perhaps you were being ironic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EQIQ Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Why such harsh feelings towards some random person's opinion? Really, I think that guy had some points, and some of it is utter garbage, but no need for this man. Like everything else people tell you in life, you need to think about it on your own, and make what you want off it. ... :S. BTW YOU really should get those jeans!! lol I'm j/k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callacova Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 These threads really show how sad some people are here on the forums. They won't listen to advice but just dwell on negativity. Honestly that's why I stopped giving advice before to people randomly, since they would never use it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shudder Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 These threads really show how sad some people are here on the forums. They won't listen to advice but just dwell on negativity. Honestly that's why I stopped giving advice before to people randomly, since they would never use it i wish there was a like button haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capricorn3 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I suspect it's my social anxiety that turns people off; little things in my behavior that seem "off," and that scares women away. I've already accepted that my social anxiety will probably always be with me,. Have you considered professional counselling/therapy for your social anxiety? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-John- Posted January 20, 2011 Author Share Posted January 20, 2011 Have you considered professional counselling/therapy for your social anxiety? I've already had two counselors. I'm coming to the conclusion that it's not for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capricorn3 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I've already had two counselors. I'm coming to the conclusion that it's not for me. How long did you stick with it? Could it be that you give up too soon? It's best to try finding someone who really works for you, but if you throw your hands up and give up at the smallest thing, then you'll forever be stuck in the situation you are right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetpea03 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 As I've said in other threads, I suspect it's my social anxiety that turns people off; little things in my behavior that seem "off," and that scares women away. Well, since I've already accepted that my social anxiety will probably always be with me, I've decided that I will at last get a girlfriend when a woman decides to get to know me in spite of my social anxiety -- because she's not scared off when I'm not the smoothest guy in the room, but because she sticks with me, tries to understand me, not simply label me a "creeper" and be done with me. You can overcome social anxiety if you really want to, but that's up to you. Also, it depends on where you are looking for women. Finding someone at a bar or something similar is probably not your best bet. Go for places where there is more to do and less areas that can cause you anxiety. Like meeting someone in a group setting, while volunteering, or while in class, etc. I'd sit down and really think about past experiences and what you think may have turned off women toward you. If you are really quiet, you may come off as stuck up. Or if you have certain body language, you may seem unapproachable. Things to think about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjjohnson89 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Thats very shallow, im not ugly but ive been with both good and so called bad lookers. I actually preffered the lesser looking ones as they were not nearly as shallow and generally had more interesting things to say. I guess this comes with no being able to hook as many people so they just accept themselves for who they are. Though generally i cant say ive ever been attracted to non lookers from the start, but the last thing i had actually was with someone i wasnt all that attracted to but once i started to see who they were underneath i became attracted to her. I started to see her as being beautiful, things didnt go well and we are now on really bad terms but still the inner beauty if you like does actaully begin to shine harder than the outer once you get to know someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generaldiscord Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Nothing to discuss because the premise is false. I am an ugly woman who gets men without too much trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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