Everyone Who Is A Virgin is A Virgin By Choice?

[Organs]

That's a lot of claims and misspellings, considering you haven't sampled the Chicago market.

[Panther_Dude]

So, just gonna lump this into here..because I can.

 

Plenty of Fish so far...sucks.

 

Like there is hardly anyone in my area who wants a hook up. 1 girl seems to have totally rejected my message and another hasn't read the one I sent for a hook up.

 

And this is affecting my thinking. Like maybe I should go 'K, if in x number of years I'm still a virgin...I might as well go into the Army or Marines.' But that is crazy thinking right there.

[Iakasot]

So, there is no such thing as a healthy relationship?

 

Not for the poster that I quoted and responded to in my previous post, based on what she has told us about her attraction mechanism. I sense that you like putting words into people's mouths to manipulate the other participant of the conversation into where you want it to go. Just because you said "so, there's no such thing as a healthy relationship?" Instead of "wow, stop saying every relationship is unhealthy" doesn't make it that much different, it's just more difficult to retort to, debate-wise, and you are likely fully aware of that.

 

This topic is about whether someone is a virgin by choice or not, and attraction differences between men and women are key in understanding the difference between MOST men virgins and women virgins. Multiple posters have agreed with my stance, but for some reason (in a subtle way) you're trying to downplay the differences I am trying to point out.

 

What's wrong with pointing out that in dreamgirl's situation, it wouldn't be fair to the guy, CognitiveCanine?

 

PantherDude: Just go to Japan, western men are "exotic" there. If you're 5'8" or taller, Japanese girls react to that much like girls here react to men that are 6'3" or taller. There's many many accounts of western men having an easy time there with girls. Google it if you don't believe me.

[jonny15]

When it comes to my sex life, I am a total virgin. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

It may not define everything else, but it does define me sexually.

[jonny15]

I'm saying if you don't care that much on your preferences you can get sex anytime you want however I cannot gurentee the qualitly of the woman.[/QUOTe]

 

I do not believe that.

 

Women can be just as picky as guys when it comes to choosing who they want to sleep with. So.....thinking you can just go out and get anyone as a guy isn't the truth. Espically online.

 

Good Lord are people picky.

 

If I posted on POF that I was 6 foot, 215, nice smile, and all muscle, i'd probably get more tail than a toilet seat. But that isn't who I really am. And they do not want that online it seems. Many seem to want the total package.

 

But if you don't care then getting sex is kind of easy.

 

 

[MD Geist]

I do not believe that.

 

Women can be just as picky as guys when it comes to choosing who they want to sleep with. So.....thinking you can just go out and get anyone as a guy isn't the truth. Espically online.

 

Good Lord are people picky.

 

If I posted on POF that I was 6 foot, 215, nice smile, and all muscle, i'd probably get more tail than a toilet seat. But that isn't who I really am. And they do not want that online it seems. Many seem to want the total package.

 

 

 

 

 

If all your looking to do is hit it and quit it then don't have a prefernece.

 

That's a lot of claims and misspellings, considering you haven't sampled the Chicago market.

 

 

I can tell you the market is much better over there than here. Pueblo, Denver and even Holly Colorado is better than my current location.

[jonny15]

If all your looking to do is hit it and quit it then don't have a prefernece.

 

But they'll still have a preference.

 

That and what woman would want a one night stand with a virgin who's never done anything?

 

Much less all my other bad qualities.

[Cognitive_Canine]

But they'll still have a preference.

 

That and what woman would want a one night stand with a virgin who's never done anything?

 

Much less all my other bad qualities.

 

A woman who can't get it normally.

[jonny15]

A woman who can't get it normally.

 

And who is that?

 

Someone really shy?

 

Even bigger ones can.

 

There are guys in love with really overweight women.

[Cognitive_Canine]

And who is that?

 

Someone really shy?

 

Even bigger ones can.

 

There are guys in love with really overweight women.

 

You'd be surprised.

 

One of my guy friends was drugged and raped by a woman. She obviously had a hard time getting it. It was her first time.

[jonny15]

You'd be surprised.

 

One of my guy friends was drugged and raped by a woman. She obviously had a hard time getting it. It was her first time.

 

Maybe the reason why she was a virgin is because she's crazy?

[Cognitive_Canine]

Maybe the reason why she was a virgin is because she's crazy?

 

She was also very unattractive.

 

Was she crazy because she was so desperately alone due to her bad looks?

 

Or desperately alone because she was crazy?

 

Either way, she can't get sex.

 

Another note is that while most women can get sex (albiet extremely creepy and scary men will probably make up a lot of the less prettier girls options), it's extremely bad for a woman to get random sex. Unlike a man, she'll receive a lot of judgment for it. There have been times that I've been clawing at the walls due to my sex drive and no one to share it with. I could have got some random guy off the street but it's not worth the inevitable social judgment, and risk of pregnancy.

[jonny15]

She was also very unattractive.

 

Was she crazy because she was so desperately alone due to her bad looks?

 

Or desperately alone because she was crazy?

 

Either way, she can't get sex.

 

Well....she clearly isn't mentally stable for doing such a sick thing.

 

That is one thing I do not want. A crazy girl.

 

I think that's resonable.

 

There have been times that I've been clawing at the walls due to my sex drive and no one to share it with.

 

Welcome to my world.

 

That's every day for me.

 

 

I could have got some random guy off the street but it's not worth the inevitable social judgment, and risk of pregnancy.

 

You can still go and do it if you want to.

[Cognitive_Canine]

And you can go get laid by a crazy girl, an extremely unattractive girl, or a hooker if you wanted to.

[jonny15]

And you can go get laid by a crazy girl, an extremely unattractive girl, or a hooker if you wanted to.

 

I want a girl that isn't gonna kill me, won't make me pay, and isn't 300 pounds.

 

Yea......if she is so gross I would get sick at my stomach seeing her naked, I probably couldn't have sex with her.

 

I myself am not anywhere near that weight.

[EQIQ]

I dunno about you guys.. but for me I am still a virgin by choice... not hard to get a girl to get laid with ...

Lemme edit this and clear something up.

THIS is only for now... soon enough (few years) I wanna be banging more than a sledge hammer lol

[Panther_Dude]

She was also very unattractive.

 

Was she crazy because she was so desperately alone due to her bad looks?

 

Or desperately alone because she was crazy?

 

Either way, she can't get sex.

 

Another note is that while most women can get sex (albiet extremely creepy and scary men will probably make up a lot of the less prettier girls options), it's extremely bad for a woman to get random sex. Unlike a man, she'll receive a lot of judgment for it. There have been times that I've been clawing at the walls due to my sex drive and no one to share it with. I could have got some random guy off the street but it's not worth the inevitable social judgment, and risk of pregnancy.

 

Well....she clearly isn't mentally stable for doing such a sick thing.

 

That is one thing I do not want. A crazy girl.

 

I think that's resonable.

 

 

 

Welcome to my world.

 

That's every day for me.

 

 

 

You can still go and do it if you want to.

 

Yeah, my sex drive can just be downright nasty to me. Depressing. Times where I just wanna explode and I get sad because no matter what I will do, it seems like I will die a virgin.

[Foxfire21]

I'm a virgin by choice. Yeah, i never had a boyfriend before but that doesn't really matter.

 

There's a million reasons why people choose to stay virgins:

 

1. Don't want to get hurt

2. Don't want to ruin a good thing

3. Asexual

4. Not worth it

and so on...

 

For me, I don't want to show my venerable side.

[DreamerGirl27]

This couldn't be farther from correct. I was the happiest woman on the planet when I first started talking to him and thought he was actually pursuing me and liked me. I don't care for the guys that care for me because A) I'm not attracted to them, B) They aren't my type. I can get guys I would never think of in a sexual way very easily. The ugly, boring, non-trendy, short-haired freaks who are no fun. I want a guy with long hair, stylish, cares about what he looks like when he gets dressed and that I'm ATTRACTED to. This guy matches up with all of that. I get stuck with nerds. Trust me...if he showed interest he'd never lose me....ever. I was floating on cloud nine for the first 2 months I started talking to him, and then the next month and a half he texted me every day and night and I had over 1000 texts in my inbox and outbox combined all just from him over a period of one week. It has nothing to do with, I don't love the ones who love me like that, and only want the one I can't have, I don't play games and I'm NOT playing games AT ALL with this guy. He is MOST DEFINITELY playing games. I layed it all out on the line for this guy, I told him flat out I like him, gave him hints up the wall that I wanted to date him and constantly do everything you're NOT supposed to do, like respond to his texts and IMs every second he texts me or IMs me because I am THAT smitten by him. He, on the other hand, is telling me about other girls he's "falling for" and then telling me he decided he actually doesn't like her because of her favorite movie. He is the one being a total idiot in this situation. He even told me I could call him an idiot (which I have) but for different reasons. I am NOT a girl that plays games and will dump a guy once she gets him. I just simply don't want someone who is a -1000 on my attractiveness radar. I like hot guys. I get ugly guys. and I'm a pretty damn cute girl, thank you very much. This guy isn't above me on the attractiveness radar, we are about equal. He just wants to be fickle and stupid.

[DreamerGirl27]

I'll also add that I was so crushed when he told me he didn't like me and so disgusted by this 18 year old who won't take the hint that I don't like him and is being very pushy (physically as well as mentally and emotionally) that I cried all the way home from school, because not only is the guy I like incredibly attractive to me physically, we have a TON load of things in common. He's fickle and picky, I'm just picky, we're both shallow in what we look for. There are other, better and actually GOOD things that we have in common, but those are just some of the stupid ones. Even my mom has said we'd make the perfect couple. So yeah, he would be wise to date me because I would probably marry the guy if I could... and I've only been talking to him for 4 months.

[EQIQ]

well dreamergirl then maybe just maybe you found your male counterpart that is turned off because you like him... ...

[DreamerGirl27]

well dreamergirl then maybe just maybe you found your male counterpart that is turned off because you like him... ...

 

Well I definitely haven't played hard to get...AT ALL...

[sns256]

Well I definitely haven't played hard to get...AT ALL...

 

Wow DreamerGirl27, I can't really add anything to help you. But just to say you have one heck of a mountain to climb to get this guy you are infatuated with. Good luck!

 

o_O, maybe I can suggest something. Don't put the blinders on and focus so much on this one guy that you pass up on some equally, or better great guy.

[DreamerGirl27]

Yeah, my sex drive can just be downright nasty to me. Depressing. Times where I just wanna explode and I get sad because no matter what I will do, it seems like I will die a virgin.

 

I think that, too.

 

Wait...

 

Scratch that.

 

I know I will die a virgin. I'm never getting married. Never having sex. Never having kids. I am going to die a sad, old, lonely woman, in a house with a bunch of cats (or dogs). I'm predicting it now. I know this for a fact.

[greywolf]

I want a girl that isn't gonna kill me, won't make me pay, and isn't 300 pounds.

 

Yea......if she is so gross I would get sick at my stomach seeing her naked, I probably couldn't have sex with her.

 

I myself am not anywhere near that weight.

 

And that's perfectly fine if you don't want to lose your virginity to someone like that. However, it's not fair to be bitter towards women just because we can 'get it easier.'