** ATTENTION Straight Men That Like T-Girls (trannies) - My BF Does Too, I NEED To Understand WHY **

[NightLily]

quasar

 

You seem to be taking a specific interest in my comments. However, you completely neglected to read them accurately. Note: I did not say all are bisexual. I said a lot as in many. Secondly, I also incorporated that I could be wrong. As in, I am not making a statement but having an opinion. An opinion that states if you are attracted to men, even if they get breast implants, have plastic surgery, or inject themselves with hormones.. you are still somewhere on the "I am not only attracted to the opposite gender" scale and hence fall somewhere on the bisexual spectrum. If you can accept your attractions, as you have.. then why would it matter to you what people call it? Also, I specifically said that they could be interested in tgirl porn and NOT be able to enjoy gay porn.

 

However, you took no effort in understanding my view points. Your first reaction was to mud sling and name call. And hence, not only are you acting rather rude but you fall victim to your own accusations.

[Lamour detruit]

The name calling is definitely not necessary at all, especially since Suzy has valid points .While one can argue semantics, it is entirely likely one would use transsexual porn as a gateway to gay porn, as they are becoming more "comfortable" in their sexuality. I have no doubt that those that watch it are more likely to be attracted to men in general, opposed to those that do not. The claim that men who are attracted to transsexuals are attracted to men no doubt holds some merit. Its a simple fact that transsexuals are not female, while they have had some changes to their body, it still holds true. All Suzy is saying is that when one is appealed by it, it does not mean they have to like men, but it does mean they are attracted to more than just their opposite gender. In the end, it all comes down to semantics. Bisexual, homosexual, it does not really matter, if you are appealed by transsexuals, then that is that, regardless of what one wants to call it.

[quasar]

SuzieQ,

 

You are capable of some serious backpedaling. You use a typical debating strategy: replace your original claim (that men watch transsexual porn because they refuse to come to grips with their attraction for real men) with a much milder claim (that men who watch transsexual porn are often bisexual; purely a matter of semantics by the way). You first claim was tandamount to calling most men who watch transsexual porn liars. I don't like being called a liar.

 

I agree that you might naively expect that transsexual porn would be a "gateway" to gay porn. However, if you stop and think about it a little longer you realize that the arguments don't hold up. For example, saying that if a man is attracted to transsexuals then he is attracted men makes about as much sense as saying that if a women is attracted to men then she is attracted to transsexuals.

 

The type of discrimination you and "Lamour" are displaying is remeniscent of homophobia. You don't understand something and so you jump to conclusions and assume that people have hidden motivations. It is disrespectful and I won't stand for it.

[Catdancer]

I've been lurking on this thread for some time now and I have a few questions, if you'll permit me.

 

My partner and I share a very open sex life. It is actually me who fantasizes about being with t-girls and he has gotten to the point where he enjoys watching t-girl porn with me. It's actually one of my hottest fantasies to have a threesome with a pre-op t-girl. So, what does that say about my straight bf?

[Lamour detruit]

 

The type of discrimination you and "Lamour" are displaying is remeniscent of homophobia. You don't understand something and so you jump to conclusions and assume that people have hidden motivations. It is disrespectful and I won't stand for it.

 

Calm down. You are the only one being disrespectful by jumping on the offensive and starting the name calling. I have no problem what so ever with homosexuals, bisexuals, and whatever else is out there. I believe one can enjoy transsexual porn and still not be into anything but that without wanting more. No one is jumping to conclusions other than you. Clearly this is an issue that is sensitive with you, but that does not mean that when someone argues semantics and says it is *possible* there is an underlying reason for them watching it, that it means they are "homophobic". The keyword there is "possible", as in..no one said it had to be the case.

 

I do not assume people have to have hidden motivations. You are the one assuming things, and being offended when there is no reason to be.

[quasar]

OK, I agree I might have overreacted. But consider this: I have read many, many threads on the issue of transsexual porn and it is not uncommon for me to read the story of a woman who leaves her boyfriend or husband because she discovers his transsexual porn habit and concludes that he will one day "come out of the the closet" and leave her for a man. Put yourself in the shoes of such a man for a second. Wouldn't it hurt to be abandoned?

 

I don't believe that Suzie has any ill intentions. But she and other people need to be a little more careful. They are breaking up faithful, monogamous relationships with their claims that men who watch transsexual porn have yet to come to grips with their sexuality.

[NightLily]

The real problem there quasar, is not the possibility that these men have a more fluid sexuality than simply the label of a heterosexual, but people's inability to accept that there is not only black and white but shades of grey. When I say bisexual I really do just mean everybody inbetween heterosexual and homosexual.

 

To me, it doesn't matter if the guy I am with is capable of being attracted to men. I do believe people can be attracted to both genders. It doesn't change their feelings towards me or mine towards them.

 

If my words break up a marriage then it was weak to begin with. Having an attraction to people who are not simply women, should not lead their spouse to jump the gun and assume "then they must only like men."

 

In my particular situation I do believe he was homosexual. It turned out he was very hateful and homophobic. And, I don't think he was interested in being sexual with me. He only had an interest in physically hurting me. In the end he tried to convince me he wanted to be penetrated by a man but that he was not sexually attracted to them. It is a long story but definitely not the rule. It wasn't my intention to make it sound that way. That guy was a weird case of psycho (trust me, you would have to know the details).

[Catdancer]

Is anyone even paying attention to this thread other than to argue and fight and call each other names?? I have a huge interest in the ORIGINAL TOPIC of the thread and I'd like to hear from others who are also interested, not members bickering.

[Velvet Sky]

[[i posted this earlier in another Trans-thread but since it deals with the same issue...I copied and pasted this again]]

 

As an post-op (Surgery complete) MtF (Male-To-Female),

 

I'd like to give more Trans-knowledge to this thread.

 

First comes to the word Transgendered...A lot of people think Transgendered and Transsexual are two like terms. They are not. Transgendered is what you would consider a UMBRELLA TERM...Anyone that doesn't fit the binary standard of male and female (Gay, lesbian, Drag King/Queen, etc. etc.) can be considered Transgendered.

 

Transsexual or transsexuals are biological males who have the desire to live as an full, complete and total female figure and then there's biological females who wish to carry on as an complete and total male figure which they would be labeled as FtM (Female-To-Male).

 

To all biological men and women who are comfort with their gender and sex (Yes! They are two different things!) who are confused on whether to call a trans-person: "He, she, guy, girl, dude, man, women, etc. etc.", There's two terms out in the world: Ze (A combo of He/She) and Hir (Him/Her) that when referring to an Trans-person would be comfortable for anyone to use.

 

With that now knowledge in your brain I'll pallidly speak about this thread and the question(s) involved.

 

To the person who asked why would STRAIGHT men like Transsexuals, I have a couple of things to say. By saying straight...That means in your eyes that a man would be gay dating an Trans-women? Trans-women are WOMEN so if a man dates a Trans-women he'll still be straight. Second: There's two kinds of Transsexuals...Are you asking why would men like Trans-women...Which would make them straight? Or trans-men which would actually make them homosexual?

 

Moving on, you keep exasperating about Trans-women with male goodies...You do know there's surgery out there to get that fixed? If an Trans-women is completely physically, emotionally, spiritually and all things a women...That makes her a women, am I correct or not?

 

And straight men love women right...? Lets actually switch this question around. Why WOULDN'T a man love a Trans-WOMEN? Men love women...Trans-women are women and that's how the attraction erupts.

 

To the people saying all the Trans-women they see on T.V. and Jerry Springer, etc. etc., you do know the media and T.V. like focusing on the bad so they get more viewers and people? Just like how T.V. hides a lot of things. The few men I have told that I was born an women internally but my body didn't match my body were shocked because a lot of people think they can "pick out" Trans-people as though they're something easy to spot.

 

Not to scare you but there's a lot of Trans-people who blend in very well and all the genetic male and female people you think you know could possibly be Transgendered or even...Like me...Transsexuals.

[Catdancer]

Velvet Sky...thank you so much for sharing with us. I am very very curious about the whole "trans" community, but where I live, there is no info, no one to talk to, etc. And I'm sure that there are transsexual and transgender people in my community, but I fear that they would be afraid to broadcast it.

 

Anyhow, thank you again!!! Hugs, Cat

 

Also, if that is you in your avy, you are freakin gorgeous!!!!!

[incognito26]

Hi there,

 

Well….. I came accross your post and honestly I too am/was I suppose confused as to why "straight" men like Trannies (a male turning female that still has the male penis). And I had to kill my confusion by "passing" for one. .yup, you heard right I did pass for one, how? I'll tell you. This is my 100% true story.. . This is where I will begin; I always knew of "bisexual" "Straight" only liking vagina, and "gay" to describe men who like either male or female sexually, or simply like vagina, or men-penis. Before I continue, please who ever reads this, I sure hope that I do not disrespect or offend anyone on here with the words that I choose to use. A little bit about me; I am an educated individual that minored in psychology and has always had a fascination on how we as humans think or define our sexual orientation or sexual identity from our childhood, adolescence to adulthood, or how we as humans think so differently about life, sex, gender, gender identity etc. . What I know from studying psychology and from reading on TGS is that of course they were born MALE and most TGS go through their life associating themselves as Female ( mentally), and nothing but. Growing older most TGS from what I understand either grow older with anger issues, become or continue to be bitter in life because god gave them a body that resembles a male or to be more specific god gave them a PENIS…. Which most TGS from what I hear find repulsive and of course don’t feel complete as a women. OKAY!!! I get that,, I really doo.. this being said,,,,,and before I go on any further did I mention I am a handsome gay male? I am 5'7, fit, smooth skin, and 26 yrs of age with little muscle not bulky but toned. Sorry had to through in the handsome part there and I will explain why I say this a little bit further ahead. So yes, I am 26 yrs old man and I am attracted to men and men only and have been “gay” or “out” for almost 6 yrs now. Through my life I've had many encounters with men, some defined themselves as “straight” but still slept with me , some even defined themselves “bisexual” and some simply “gay”. You name it, I’ve had it. I’ve even been in threesomes where I was with two "straight" people male and female, and the male in the threesome touched me sexually and me him, but I never touched the female sexually. Because I came to terms at the age of twenty that I was fooling myself in believing that I liked girls. Oh, yes, I forgot to tell you that part of my teen yrs. I dated girls and even lost my virginity to a girl and even had sex with girls up until I met a very handsome boy that changed that for me. Okay, moving on, so basically I’ve been with a lot of men of course I always played safe during the encounters.

 

Now, knowing my background.. where is the part where I too am/was confused with “straight” men that sleep with TGS with a penis? Well, today is March 24, 2010 and last year around September 2009 I met a boy on an online site- which is mostly a sex oriented site. This boy, with G.F, met me and he told me he did not like men, but liked to suck on the penis and liked to have anal sex- basically a "straight" man that liked to f me in the ass but he did not want to kiss me at all, and all he wanted was a blow job and wanted to * * * * me in the ass because his GF did not know how to SUCK a good Penis and he liked anal sex, which he mentioned that his GF did not like so therefore he found men to do that with..… I was like; okay, whatever you're hot let’s meet and we did, and had GREAT sex…. Well, this is where I learned after having sex with this man that he too slept with TGS’.. he said “ I am sorry I do not kiss, I am totally “straight” and like girls a lot and TGS or (Trannies as I know them)… and those are the only girls I kiss… Then I was like,, wait a second,,, hold up.. I thought,, uh, hello a tranny was a man and is a man cuz of his penis, but simply puts on girls clothes and lets’ his hair long and puts implants ( at times) … I was like, what really? Okay, so I let it go.. then he told me he was dating a TG and he had no desire to date a male like me but only have sex with me.… I then was even more confused! To the max! Because I see these TGs’ at gay clubs that I go to and I see how they hang out with us gay boys in those clubs. And never in straight clubs. So here I am thinking how can a straight male like trannies and date trannies and not call him/her a male or call himself "straight" when by what i know from my "straight" male friends is that they only like vagina and feel repulsed by the mention of penis or seeing one, yet alone touch one. ? I don’t get it and didn't get him how he thought. . SO… I did research… well,, guess what I did? Yup, I dressed up as a girl, became a cross dresser.. I got a hot mini skirt, panties, and everything that resembled a girl, you name it I got it, and even a wig, which stayed put on really good.. Very expensive wig that looked like real hair. Well, I got these clothes because my intentions were to post an ad on a web-site where men post or look for trannies… So I did, just that.. I posted on a tranny site and said I was a male going through the change and that I was looking for a man to have some fun with and I took some pictures of myself ( dressed) and posted them online and OMG, within minutes of posting I must have got like 100 plus emails from men wanting to meet me. Some, made comments to my real pictures, like; wow u have such a hot ass and hot body, can I cum suck ur penis, you are so hot girl what’s ur name baby? Etc.. .. they thought I was a “girl” in their mind I was that a MTF.

 

Anyway, I decided to meet one super hot, hot, hot male model that I thought why not, I'll have him come over and I will dress just like in the pictures like a "girl" with a penis.. he never asked if I was a tranny or a CD to him he was looking for sex with someone that resembled a “girl” and as long as this "girl" had a penis it was okay to meet and have a sexual encounter with... I was nervous as heck talking to him, shaking even, as it were going to be my first time with a male. I gave him my address and I said what do I have to lose right? If he is not convinced I’m a "girl “then he will get the hell out of my place or once he knew I was a male with a penis he would feel repulsed- he couldn't be straight and he either might beat me or get the hell out of my place because he was "straight" he would feel disgusted being there. Oh, he even asked me while texting me, and while driving to my place if I was “passable” hell I did not know what that meant… So I said, sure… lol… anyway this boy shows up and he looked and me and said “GIRL you are so hot, OMG, those eyes, and that skin, flawless, what a pretty face you have sweetie".. At this point I was in shock; this super hot, hot, hot “straight male” was kissing me, jerking me, sucking me, eating my butt out as if I were a REAL girl… I couldn't dare say a word in fear of him hearing my male voice so I kept it low and I told myself there is no way he actually thinks that I am, no WAY…. Well he did! Here we are having amazing sex and even finished with us both cuming… when he left my place I was left so confused,, I said, W.T.F,, Did this really happen? This hot “straight man” really, he did think I was a tranny? A "Girl"??? he sucked me off and he had sex with me knowing my penis was there!!!! I was like no way he is "straight" what straight man sucks on penis.. come on!! Get out.!!! No way… so then I decide to post again two days after.. and again all the replies that came in every man said they were "straight", some said "curious", some were " totally, totally straight " this time I posted a sexy picture of my legs with hot female clothes and again,, , 100 plus emails came through like water running through the facet, I couldn’t even reply to them all they were so many.. MY god.. I kept saying to myself there is no way these men are “straight” can’t be, they must be in denial , bisexual, come on,, no way “straight” so here I was answering to these men,,, and even meeting these men, and each time I did I took that opportunity to pick their heads.. I found out a few things,, most told me that the only way they would suck a penis is if they looked like a “girl” but I said; girls don’t have a penis,, they have a vagina so ur “bi” most kept saying “NO” they didn't like men, so I told them I was a man and that I simple dressed up and put on fake boobs and make up and fake everything, they didn't care that I was a man and as long as I looked like a "girl" they enjoyed sucking a penis.. WOW...( all mental ) ..Anyway the longer I picked their mind this was my discovery; out of the 20 men I met as a "tranny" or "c.d" this with, all super hot, may I add… most of them had G.F, some were married, and all were “straight” some told me they were unhappy in their marriage, some had no father figure, some suffered from depression, some were hoarders, some were simply confused about their sexuality and the list goes on with my findings. I since stopped "passing" as a girl. The craziest thing though, and in my findings, were that only 2 men felt anger when I told them I was a man, they didn’t want to hear that and left my house right after angry for telling them that… .. To them I was “Samantha” ( my made up "girl" name and not “Carlos” they would not call me by my boy name.. at all.. out of those 20 men, they would keep coming back for more sex- BJ’s , anal sex, and I would always dress up for them each time we had sex- And i would continue to pick their head/mind even more by asking more questions. I kept finding new things each time.

 

Most told me they would never date or go out with trannies and all they were to them was a fetish, a sex toy, a play object, something taboo , again, the most popular word they used was "A FETISH" which i found to be very rude… I asked if I was a fetish being a man that dressed as a girl and they said YES.. .. but from those 20 men , six of them were single and the rest married and or had G.Fs. They were lonely, they had failed marriages, had problems in their marriage or their family structure was unstable was what I gathered ever further. From those six men, which were super hot, model looks, all 6 of them would text me, call me, each time they got horny, and each time they were more curious than the first time.. It came to the point where they were not tops anymore they were the receiver ( bottom ) and I was the giver ( top) during anal sex.. we kissed, talked, hung out and even had amazing conversations during or after sex. Maybe they were lonely? I don't know. Some even wanted to wear my "girl" clothes and have sex that way as I the giver ( top) , some wanted to act out sex acts, like role play, car bj's, hooker scenes, sex that they couldn't normally do with their real biological girfriends or wifes.The list goes on.

 

So,, here I am dressing up as a girl for these 20 men,,, I could have been able to sleep with more though, but I stopped, these men would suck my penis as a “girl” and even treated me as a "girl" during sex. They called me “baby” ,, “ sweetie” etc… we connected to say the least. So here goes the final twist, ready? From all these men that would come back to me for more sex, I slowly “revealed” my true self to them as “Carlos” a boy who likes boys …. Guess what? They all stayed except for two who got angry and left as soon as I started to reveal myself to them. And wanted to date me now AS A BOY!!!! They had no problem being with me sexually and treating me the same as "Samantha" (my girl name) we still had good sex but kinky sex,,,i would wear panties now, or simply girl clothing and they wanted me to be feminine acting…. Anyway, out of those six men that I now was seeing as a BOY and not a CD I ended up dated one boy who at the time I was seeing as a "girl" broke up with his G.F and now we are a couple. Now,, you tell me, could these men be suppressing their feelings sexually for men in regards to sex? I think so. My current boyfriend that was one of those 20 men that liked trannys told me several times that he slept with trannies, TG's/TS because he didn’t want to admit that he liked men and that being with a “female” with a penis it didn’t make him that "GAY" Bcuz to him sucking on a penis that looked like a girl wasn't being gay it was being with a "girl" and he was "straight". To conclude, in my FIRST hand research as being or passing for a “tranny” . , or "C.D" these men had no problem being with me as a girl and neither as a BOY. Bottom line, these men enjoyed the penis more than they did the vagina, they were in this for the penis, and as long as I had some girl clothes on it was okay... as long as they did not see me as a "boy" they were okay with being with me sexually. Bottom line from those 20 men I only connected fully mentally and sexually with one of them - he met me as a"girl" and then eventually as a "boy" and he liked me either way. He could have been bisexual to begin with but I believe most men on the sites looking for TG's are and not straight...and in denial of that factor. He told me at the time that he was "straight" and that he didn't find men or masculinity attractive at all. Now, here we are dating exclusively,,, maybe he was really "gay" or "bi" and he was suppressing his true feelings by calling himself "straight" ? I don't know, the point is that we are dating now as two men. And he was among the 20 men that considered himself "straight" and slept with TGS/TS/CD's.

 

Anyway, sorry this is a long reply, but this is me telling you my 100% truthful story and my findings to the original question on this post.

I am a gay male who too was confused about these "straight" men that sleep with trannies and I had to find out by "passing" as one and even talking fem and walking fem!?? (Because honestly I am not Fem, in fact very masculine acting boy) And my findings to this are explained above. These men after several encounters, sexual, they even had sex with me as a boy and they didn't care either way anymore. Crazy huh? With this conclusion I leave this forum...Sincerely, me, Carlos a 26 yr old gay male that is now in love and in relationship with a very good looking man that use to sleep with trannies. Sorry for this long reply, hope that any words that I used here doesn't offend anyone in the GLBT community, a community that I belong to and so very proud of. This is my first hand research to this Quetion above and my findings, and my outcome. Also, i am sorry for some typos or even the way this reply goes all over the place. I am at work and I've been multi-tasking all at once.. I am sorry for the messy, typos and structure. Sincerely, Carlos.

[boowant]

I am almost exactly like this situation, i have been with my bf for about 5 years and from the beginning he told me he was attrected to T girls.. He says hes not gay maybe bi but does not like the look of other men just men who look like women..I have worrys to (sometimes) that if he ever found a VERY passable T-girl that he would leave, but i asked him and he said he would never do that. He loves p***y to much! He has never told any1 about all of this just me, and like someone on here said if hes that open w/ u why would he stray (i found that comment very helpful.) Anyway i had a couple of questions for the girl who posted this, are you bi at all,if not would you eveer think of sleeping with a women? If you are bi or wanna try another women then you would prob see how he is feeling! Im bi so i know how it feels it confusing!!! This might be a bit personal bu did you ever think of having a 3-sum with him and a T-girl? Me and mybf are lookin. Anyway best of luck to you!

[Amarte]

I can't believe you went through all this drama, to figure out this men.

I don't think this men would of been attracted to you if they met you as Carlos, but they were having sex with you and they started liking you and it did not matter after that. I know this because I have a transvestite friend who does this all the time, and definitely gets laid a lot more often when he does this (but there is no mistake about him being a crossdresser when you look at him).

 

HOWEVER, a crossdresser is NOT the same as an actual shemale, that has a feminine physique, etc. I bet those men could tell you were just a guy in a dress, because how feminine could you look without crossexual hormone therapy, especially at a young age???

 

The type of men a crossdresser pulls, is totally different than what an actual, passable shemale...like Patricia Araujo(google her), for example, pulls. I think this is the type of t-girl the OP was referring to....not someone that looks like a guy in a dress.

[boowant]

I dont get it why all the hype about a man kiilen a penis even is his straight( i have heard from alot of staright men say they would suck them selfs off if they could! Why would marylin manson have 1 of his ribs removed to do this LOL! they still look like women with a little extra part, what wife or g/f doenst performore anal on there man anymore it helps the prostate. Its like a girl likeing a vagina even if shes stright. Whats the didderence anyway? what ever makes you happy and feel good GO 4 It!!

[realmoney]

I'm sorry no disrespect to transsexuals and transsexuals lovers in here but in god honest truth it's a Delusion cause the most significant difference between a man and a woman is a woman can give birth some unfortunately by nature they can't but the fact of the matter is in homosexuality you get two sets 1).realistic homosexuals like me(I'm not out down-lo and bottom and loving it until i die i shall look like what god intended me to look like a man who's a homosexual) and 2).delusional homosexuals so there's every thing for every one in the new world we live in so don't stress yourself or feel intimidated just understand some humans are simply Delusional i learn this cause i been in a delusional relationship to be brutal honest with a top who is a secretly transsexual lover and had a girlfriend which i accidentally heard her voice while i rang him one day i felt so bad cause she's a victim in his deceptive affairs so i ended it i guess i was young and vulnerable when i meet him and he was older 25 and living in UK the market isn't as large as US so anyway he only like me cause my ass was big and chocolaty juicy but i was young and having fun the mistake i made is i feel in love with him not knowing I'll end up being his side line for nearly 3years I'm 20 years old now so it all make sense as what (incognito26) said it's a fetish and i didn't want to be put that down so i told him the truth and he keeps denied it saying ''just cause i talk to them doesn't mean I'm having sex them''. All i can say is transsexual ultimately satisfied him not real girls or real boys and i was annoyed not cause i couldn't get other men it's the fact that he keep trying to creep his way back to my life and not admitting the truth that he like them so my conclusion is i don't judge only god can judge but men like them are just in-denial creeps that have to be with a real girl for society to see and have babies and a transsexual on the side to balance it what i don't understand is if you got interested in transsexual why don't you just be with them and stop misleading and deceiving real girls and boys well i guess it's the price we have to pay in this new world we live in but honestly no offense to no one here but you need to understand you can't play with people's heads like that it's not like your oblivious to the word ''TRUST'' but then again it's the thrills that drives them to do that and them type of thrills always leads to a dangerous ending cause good always win over evil at the end of the day regardless your spiritual belief,morals and life experience but then again I'm not the one to judge but the actions this men put upon victims like me real boys and his girlfriends as a real girl is honestly evil but some people are like that so it's the matter of knowing were you stand in life and let them be cause we all going to die at end of the day no one is higher than god.

[boowant]

Everyone has there own thing, and me and my b/f are attracted to T-girls its just what we like! Some men like men some girls like girls some men like girls and guys the list can go on for days!! Its all about what YOU like not what anyone else thinks! The guy who did that to all these men i think is confused or addicated to sex and that was the only way he could get it LMAO .Y would anyone go through so much just to prove a point Makes no sense to me! These T-girls are a beautiful and some c-ds to Everyone is human and like i said EVERYONE has there own thing!!

[realmoney]

good for you i guess you and your b/f like delusional species to be honest that's all to it realistic as what you said everyone has there own thing so delusional is your thing , they(transsexuals) may be beautiful in the outside but realistic the penis says it all that they are a man cause a vagina is something no money no surgery can make it naturally given to also give birth even though some biological women can't give birth that's a special unfortunate circumstance but they were born with a vagina not a penis regardless what they feel in the inside,so in conclusion delusional is your thing its alright it's the new world we live in some human find animal or child pornography as a fetish, so once again your right there's everything for everyone so delusional is your thing cause reality is something some human can't accept and the new world gives you options what you like and what you want to look like.

[lucableu]

Lmao! Thats cause ur man is GAY! Thats how it starts slowly working his way up too sleeping with and actual man..

[FathomFear]

Lmao! Thats cause ur man is GAY! Thats how it starts slowly working his way up too sleeping with and actual man..

 

Curious--how many gay men do you know who "worked their way up" by sleeping with transsexuals?

 

None, I suspect.

[lukeb]

Like I said before, I have a huge problem with the question itself. It is absurd to think one could come up with a theory why some men are into T-girls anymore than we can come up with theories why straight men like women.

 

Can anyone not see the problem with this?

[lucableu]

There are some gay men who pretend to srt8 even marrying women and even having kids.. but are really gay and just cant deal with reality as to what they real are..

[FathomFear]

There are some gay men who pretend to srt8 even marrying women and even having kids.. but are really gay and just cant deal with reality as to what they real are..

 

To say that men who are attracted to transgendered women are actually gay is, well, quite ignorant.

 

There are men out there who are attracted to the gender of "woman"--ie, the body shape, the curves, clothing choices, breasts, etc--but are tantalized by the addition of male genitalia.

 

Trust me when I saw that being attracted to a man with male genitalia is different than being attracted to a woman with male genitalia.

[anonymousSAD]

So right again. Listen to this lukeb; he's smart.

 

I really don't understand watching porn at all...Maybe it only makes sense to people who masterbate? I'm so messed up about this issue...The idea of sexual pleasure makes me terrified; I can't imagine wanting to watch someone else. Plus it seems risky, being with someone who's into porn. Do most people want sex just as a separate thing? Obviously I don't mean do most people want to sleep around outside a relationship, but do most people just like sex and want to have it, like imagining and seeing feels good? It just feels to me like, please don't take offense, if you like watching sex between two bodies in porn, won't you be into the act of sex and the bodies separately of the other feelings and commitments necessary to a real relationship? Maybe that doesn't make sense...I'm a very open minded person if someone could explain this to me, I just don't see the attraction.

[Nerdyjock]

Hello,

 

I posted the following response to your post in another thread. Therefore, it may not be exactly in line with this post since it was a direct response to what you said in another post.

 

"I think I can offer a bit of advice for your fear.

 

Your bf was honest with you about something. That is good. Regardless of what he is attracted to, all that matters is his fidelity. Even if he was 100% straight and only into genetic females, not trannies, he could still go cheat on you with another girl out of lust. Therefore, I think if you love him, all you need to do is take comfort in his honesty. Even if he desires a tranny, it doesn't mean he has to go out and get one to be satisfied. In the same vein, even if he didn't like trannies, he may still lust for the feeling of a "new" girl in bed but that doesn't mean he has to go out and get one.

 

What matters is the action, not the temptation or the lust. I think if he was honest with you then this is a great sign and you have nothing to worry about. Fidelity is all that matters, not sexuality. "

[brandy8888]

abnormal....... you have given me some real insight into this, and the questions I have relating to this. One bit of advice, don’t EVER let your wife find out. She as I did will never feel adequate again. .... I mean it. I met my soul mate, the love of my life, we got engaged we had fantastic sex, we consumed each other......call it intuition, I always had a 'niggle'. One day whilst he was at work, I sort of hacked into his laptop, I found years....years of transsexual attraction, porn and profiles on TG/TV/CD websites, I found numbers on his phone bills of - I now know TV/TG/CD escorts he had spoken to over years!! I remember feeling physically sick; it hit me like a bullet to the head. It was the LAST thing I thought I would discover in a secret life. I thought maybe my 'niggle' was porn, I never expected to find what I did. I have never ever gotten over it. Every time he loses an erection, every time I see a trigger the atmosphere becomes sickening. Not because of 'them' but, as a woman, we can never live up to these abnormal (with respect) 'hyper feministic' people, we feel inadequate. It has had a serious impact on my view of him, more so than he thinks. If it is an attraction to a penis – why don’t these ‘wo MEN” have the full operation??????? Why are there thousands of them selling their anus online? I enjoy anal sex very much, but I wouldn’t have a penis made and sell myself as a TG?????

I will add too, that when I did find out and confronted him, he was almost suicidal, I was understanding and non judgmental, and I still want some answers. For him it is a closed book, he can't discuss it, he won’t, he is so embarrassed. We were supposed to move back to the UK - we didn't, I know now that it is because I am the only one who knows his 'secret life' and if anyone were to find out he would never be the same.

I guess this is where I stand with 'muffinhead' and her questions - I just want to 'understand'. I wonder if this desire of his is a deep routed homosexual tendency (I feel it might be – as I felt the niggle of bi-sexuality, I still don’t know why……) or if he like you tapped or stumbled upon something that lead to arousal (he said the latter) and I was the 'take home bride' or if he really did fall head over heel with me. You can't very well take home a t-girl............. not with his family. I often feel like I need closure and to get that closure, do I try and trap him send him an email?? Deliver temptation and see if he takes the bait?? We are expecting our son in 5 weeks time and as terrible as this sounds, one of the first pictures of him from the ultrasound was his little bum, scrotum and penis.........my husband became visibly uncomfortable when both the sonographer and myself though it was the cutest thing out!! My husband has some deep demons he tries with all his might to conceal, he drank a lot when I met him, he was lonely, but he is from an outstanding family and is a Dad to a little girl, he is a gentle kind and beautiful man. I think he is tormented by his inability to fight this urge, I fear will haunt us forever.

Don't ever let your wife find out - seriously, she will be devastated and things will probably never be the same, never.

Thanks for listening