yumicecream Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 Some people say that in America, the class system is something that is obsolete. This is obviously not true as we can see a large amount of people who are wealthy look down on everyone else and a large amount of people who are educated look down upon the working class. A good movie to consider is "Maid in Manhatten". How fairytale is this movie? I was laid off last year and I have been working a job that is lower than what I normally would work for now. Do men consider this? I've seen that lots of women like men who are say, doctors. Are men the same way? My parents were from an upper middle class environment but they never encouraged me to persue someone based on class...but rather on how loyal & devoted they were, and what culture they were from... What percentage of men consider class when it comes to dating? Link to comment
volpe Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 I think men mostly focus on appearance. And they usually (usually) want a woman less educated than them, even though they probably won't admit that. Link to comment
yumicecream Posted May 23, 2009 Author Share Posted May 23, 2009 Yeah but certain appearances suggest status. I can't afford a coach purse, for example. I keep myself clean and neat but I do not wear expensive clothing. I also don't think that is true about men...I think having two incomes is something that a lot of men consider beneficial now... I'm just wondering, how much of that do they consider when seeking love? Would a man turn away from a woman because of her social status e.g. Maid in Manhatten? Link to comment
waveseer Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 Plenty of "financially stable" men fall for unemployed women. I see no issue there at all. Link to comment
rocio Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 This is like asking "do women enjoy mashed potatoes?" The obvious answer - some do and some don't. I doubt that you're going to find valid percentages based on a scientific study. Link to comment
Gratsy Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 You don't think that you can research something like this? I think there are ways. I don't know men who fall for unemployed women? Link to comment
COtuner Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 Depends on how the guy was raised, his personal tastes, and if the women is uncouth / unkempt/ etc etc. I doubt the average guy really cares as long as the woman is "average" too. Certain people of certain social status or religions might prefer characteristics in a mate that could have to do with income, family tree, etc. The college I went to had a lot of "old money" and you'd see that occasionally. Although just getting an education there often "cleared' a girl to date the old money boy.... so there's pockets out there, yeah. Link to comment
Hugh Stonian Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 I look down on people that think they're better than someone else because of social status. It is obsolete in my book, and being elitist is repulsive.,,,HS Link to comment
meepmeep20 Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 I think men mostly focus on appearance. And they usually (usually) want a woman less educated than them, even though they probably won't admit that. YES! YES! MOST men, that is. There are always exceptions. Link to comment
Raistlin Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 The only time I ever consider outright not being with someone is when we clash. I can tolerate religious differences or political differences, as long as it's a non-issue in the relationship. As soon as someone tries to force an opinion on me, I'm out. As far as "class" or status - no, it's never made me look down on anyone. It's made me thing they were out of MY league, sure.. especially since I don't come from an upper-class household. Link to comment
Batya33 Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 " is obviously not true as we can see a large amount of people who are wealthy look down on everyone else and a large amount of people who are educated look down upon the working class." I have to say it is so disturbing to read this kind of bashing of entire, massive groups of people, including people who worked extremely hard to accomplish a higher education and/or a successful business. There are so many examples that show how inaccurate and unfair your opinion is. How about the thousands of educated teachers who work tirelessly with poor immigrants - you think if they looked down on those people they would work with them or make the progress they do (I am sure their students wouldn't stand for arrogance). Where would we be without the lawyers who do pro bono work to help poor people get fair treatment or the doctors who work in inner city clinics? They don't look down on poor people -they help them. So, please don't bash educated people or wealthy people - feel free to judge arrogant people or people who look down on others based on stereotyping - last time I checked arrogance didn't depend on income, assets or education level - I've met arrogant poor people and humble wealthy people (and of course charities couldn't survive without the generosity of wealthy people among others and obviously if they're giving of their time and money they're not looking down on those people). So, my advice is not to worry about whether men who make more money than you or are better educated than you will look down on you but I would be concerned with your apparent hostility (at least based on what you wrote) towards those who are wealthy and/or educated. Chances are whoever you meet might be turned off by your negativity towards and stereotyping of towards the educated and/or wealthy even if they are not either one of those things. I'm sorry if you have had bad experiences with people who looked down on you - please understand that they are the minority and that of course jerks come in all shapes/sizes/colors. Link to comment
DropToZero Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 I don't care about your class, I haven't seen that movie OP... but I care about my fiances work ethic...not where she works or how she works. I've seen big time Accountants and managers working other PT jobs just to make some extra cash on the side... where you work is no issue, and if you meet someone that does judge you like that, they're not worth knowing. Link to comment
yumicecream Posted May 23, 2009 Author Share Posted May 23, 2009 Don't assume. I'm not bashing. I'm asking people what they think, that is all. I've encountered both kind and horrible wealthy people in my life. However, I will say that if you think that discrimination between classes, especially of the kind where the wealthy direct their arrogance towards the working class, then you live in a different world than I live in. I've been in both worlds and I know that many of the wealthy do in fact have an arrogant way of looking at people who, sometimes through something as simple as luck or lack of oppurtunity, do not have as much as they do. They lack empathy. I think its worse for someone who has money to be a jerk than it is for someone who is poor. Poverty has a way of beating humility into you. Sure, there are jerks who are poor. Its fine that you've had a good work ethic and that you think that it gives you the right to think that anyone who dares say anything even mildly negative about the position you've earned in life is a fool who deserves a long three paragraph response, but really. Its also kind of ironic because you're not even aware of my familial background. I'm not from ostentacious wealth but you'd be surprised enough to bite back a few assumptions, I'm sure. Link to comment
Batya33 Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 Your post only further confirms my opinion that it will be your attitude towards wealthy people and educated people that will be the true obstacle to your forming a healthy relationship with a man (whether he is wealthy, educated or none of the above). Of course, you can choose to change that mindset but it sounds like you're unwilling to at this point. I made no assumptions about your background whether wealthy, poor or in between and I don't think that what you said is mildly negative about people who are wealthy or educated- I think it's quite hostile, and a shame because it's unnecessary. Obviously you're entitled to your opinion - I never wrote that you weren't - I simply commented how it's so hurtful to people who fall into the two huge groups of people you mentioned, especially the many many educated and/or wealthy people who work so darn hard to help those less fortunate than they (including helping poor people get an education - but it sounds like you would see them as arrogant too, once they become educated?) Let's agree to disagree, ok? Link to comment
yumicecream Posted May 23, 2009 Author Share Posted May 23, 2009 I'm sorry, but what I think is unnecessary is living in a fantasy world where you believe that wealthy people don't use their money to oppress people. One thing you're right on: I haven't been convinced. And obviously you completely missed the point of my post if you think that I assume all wealthy people are arrogant. I think an educated person would not be displaying their education very well if they automatically think that I am nothing but against all educated people. If I had said, "all rich people are jerks," I'd understand. But that isn't what I said in the least, so I don't see how anything I said was hurtful, but just an observation. If you know wealthy people who help the poor, then good, so do I. Link to comment
roctown Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 No, so long as you have class. A poor girl who takes care of herself is much more attractive than a rich party girl (well, at least to respectable guys). Link to comment
Batya33 Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 I'm sorry, but what I think is unnecessary is living in a fantasy world where you believe that wealthy people don't use their money to oppress people. One thing you're right on: I haven't been convinced. And obviously you completely missed the point of my post if you think that I assume all wealthy people are arrogant. I think an educated person would not be displaying their education very well if they automatically think that I am nothing but against all educated people. If I had said, "all rich people are jerks," I'd understand. But that isn't what I said in the least, so I don't see how anything I said was hurtful, but just an observation. If you know wealthy people who help the poor, then good, so do I. As i wrote, let's agree to disagree since you continue to twist my words and make statements I never made or intended. Thanks. Link to comment
lady00 Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 I don't think there is any one answer to this. It's a personal preference. I can only speak from my experiences and observations of others, and I can't say I've noticed a huge tendency one way or the other. Link to comment
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