jonny15 Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Even if you are a bad dancer I think it's real nice to see a guy enjoying himself (if he can) bad dancer or not. Well lets say I were single and I did club and I did ask a man to dance and he said no, I don't dance I'd write him off just like that. That is most definitely a deal breaker for me. At the very least, pre warn me you can't dance worth a crap but you'll give it a shot... I dunno that's how I look at it anyways. I'm a dancer, always have been always will be. But, if you ever cared to learn there are LOTS of classes out there that will teach even the least cooordinated men to dance. I've seen some awefully akward men learn to dance! Yea...but not everyone wants to dance. It's something I have never wanted to do. I just have no interest in it. I also perfer not to do things that make me look incredibly stupid. I have enough trouble not looking stupid around females as it is. There's no reason for me to go out of my way to look it. Link to comment
girl68 Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Yea...but not everyone wants to dance. It's something I have never wanted to do. I just have no interest in it. I also perfer not to do things that make me look incredibly stupid. I have enough trouble not looking stupid around females as it is. There's no reason for me to go out of my way to look it. I know I was just saying... Link to comment
jonny15 Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 I know I was just saying... I might....and I mean.....might be willing to try to dance alone with a female with no one else around. But I would never do it infront of a group of people. Much less at a club with garbage music playing. Link to comment
Mace Posted March 28, 2009 Author Share Posted March 28, 2009 If you want to be with your girlfriends all night and not be approached by men, go to a gay bar. Not surprised this girl is from BC... I've been told the women in Vancouver are even worse than the ones in Toronto. link removed Link to comment
laisla Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 heyyy no women-city bashing. Link to comment
girl68 Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 If you want to be with your girlfriends all night and not be approached by men, go to a gay bar. Not surprised this girl is from BC... I've been told the women in Vancouver are even worse than the ones in Toronto. link removed LOL okay Well first off I didn't say I hated being approached. In fact I said I don't mind if it's done tastefully and respectfully. And I hate techno, and guess what kind of music blasts at gay clubs? You guessed it! Techno. Link to comment
Nutz Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 There is no such thing as dance-floor game. It really is a trap. Women go there to show off their goods, get their validation kicks/ego stroking, and blow off guys left and right like you mentioned because dancing "feels good". It's a load of crap to rationalize the ego stroking they get by all the guys gawking at them. If dressing up and dancing felt so good they'd be doing it in their living room where they can choose the music and drink for free. Many also get an added kick by destroying guys so they can feel good about themselves. Don't let yourself get used like that. That's why I stopped going to clubs where the main attraction is dancing. Instead try going to bars or smaller clubs where you have variety and nice quiet spots you can bounce to for conversation. Once you've won over a set THEN AND ONLY THEN can you take them to dance. This is good for some quick and easy kino escalation, and that's how you get the pull (or you just skip the dance-floor and leave the club with them). If you're good looking and have a decent game there's no reason you can't be pulling girls back to have sex inside 30 minutes on a regular basis. The more advanced guys I go out with do this nearly every weekend if not almost a nightly basis. Link to comment
grymoire Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 Many also get an added kick by destroying guys so they can feel good about themselves. Don't let yourself get used like that. Nutz are you serious abt this man? Why would someone do this? Link to comment
Nutz Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 Nutz are you serious abt this man? Why would someone do this? There are a lot of very mean people in the world. When women go to a club, for some reason social etiquette and manners go right out the window for them, especially when they've been drinking. I see this all the time. Sometimes it's the guy's fault for having terrible approach skills, but it's still no excuse for being mean to someone. While not an exact translation to the OP's situation, this certainly illustrates the level of unacceptable behavior women are capable of in a club/bar setting. And I see this all the time when I go out. Thankfully it doesn't happen to me except in rare occasions anymore when I'm off my game. link removed Link to comment
Lusif Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Guys nearly ALWAYS hit on me really inappropriately - grabbing, grinding against me without even making any contact with me first, cheesy/disgusting pick-up lines... it's obvious they're all about getting any old piece of skirt to go home with them. Thankfully not all girls are that easy. And yes, I get a kick out of dressing up and being a bit seductive on the dancefloor, whilst having no intention of letting any guys near me. It IS an ego boost. As for dancing, all that matters is if you're having fun! Link to comment
grymoire Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 And yes, I get a kick out of dressing up and being a bit seductive on the dancefloor, whilst having no intention of letting any guys near me. It IS an ego boost. I am just wondering how the responses would be if a guy came here and said its a great ego boost for him to seduce girls and make out with them while having no intention of anything serious. Link to comment
servedcold Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Guys nearly ALWAYS hit on me really inappropriately - grabbing, grinding against me without even making any contact with me first, cheesy/disgusting pick-up lines... You know it's funny, see this claim all the time. Where are these places where men don't get an instant beat-down the minute they grab a woman? I've never been there, but have been in maybe 5000 bars and clubs on several continents and many states in the U.S. over a 27 year history going to such places. What I do see is men going up on the dancefloor next to women and dancing with them on occasion (almost never touching them in the process), which I suppose could be interpreted as rude. I have seen men grope women on occasion out, rarely though, and there are almost always swift repercussions for the man in question. He is "handled" quickly by staff, bouncers or other guys there in a very unpleasant way that would surely not encourage him to repeat such behavior. The way some women tell it, their lives are a never-ending stream of being groped and spoken to rudely by rude guys, yet I've hardly ever seen it. Maybe .5% of the interactions I've seen men trying to have with strange women were initiated rudely or inappropriately. Stop hanging out at the Bada Bing maybe? Link to comment
itsallgrand Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 All I can say that the others who pointed out there are easier way to find casual hookups are right. You can still enjoy nights out at the club on occasion without expectation. Actually, it's the only real way to fly and have a genuine good time. Women might even talk to you of their own accord. There are plenty who aren't against a plain chat and a few laughs. It doesn't have to be complicated. Link to comment
bostonbruins24 Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Even if you are a bad dancer I think it's real nice to see a guy enjoying himself (if he can) bad dancer or not. Well lets say I were single and I did club and I did ask a man to dance and he said no, I don't dance I'd write him off just like that. That is most definitely a deal breaker for me. At the very least, pre warn me you can't dance worth a crap but you'll give it a shot... I dunno that's how I look at it anyways. I'm a dancer, always have been always will be. But, if you ever cared to learn there are LOTS of classes out there that will teach even the least cooordinated men to dance. I've seen some awefully akward men learn to dance! You would write off a guy because he didn't dance? Link to comment
Bartok Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Like what? Not being able to dance? Cause I can't do that. lol I don't care if you can't dance. What baffles me is that you don't even try. It's just such a weird thing to me. Must be my highly musical background. Oh well, your loss Link to comment
Lusif Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 I am just wondering how the responses would be if a guy came here and said its a great ego boost for him to seduce girls and make out with them while having no intention of anything serious. There is quite a difference between dressing up and making the most of yourself - and not even casting more than a glance upon ANY guy; and deliberately flirting with, seducing and using a girl before dumping her. Link to comment
Lusif Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 It's not that I'm constantly hit on inappropriately. It's just that almost every come-on I receive is disrespectful. I either don't get hit on at all and perhaps get stared at by some drunken jerks, or some guy comes up behind me and thinks it's okay to grind me. And there are guys who think it's perfectly fine to actually grab your crotch. I'm not saying all you guys are like this. Link to comment
girl68 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 You would write off a guy because he didn't dance? Yes, absolutely. It is a no questions, no compromises requirement for me. Link to comment
jonny15 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 I really don't get why someone would write someone off for not dancing. That just seems weird to me. I know some people like to dance, but........some don't. I like to watch sports, but I wouldn't expect every female too. And I wouldn't say no to them if they hated sports. Link to comment
Shudder Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 I really don't get why someone would write someone off for not dancing. That just seems weird to me. I know some people like to dance, but........some don't. I like to watch sports, but I wouldn't expect every female too. And I wouldn't say no to them if they hated sports. why be at a club if you dont enjoy dancing? seems kinda strange to me. Link to comment
JadedStar Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 I don't care if you can't dance. What baffles me is that you don't even try. It's just such a weird thing to me. Must be my highly musical background. Oh well, your loss In the defense of guys who don't like to dance, there are also some guy things that i don't care for and would appreciate it if he didn't try to tell me that i had to at least 'try' it. I appreciate someone who respects that i might be adult enough to know what i do and do not enjoy and give me some space about it. Link to comment
JadedStar Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 There is no such thing as dance-floor game. It really is a trap. Women go there to show off their goods, get their validation kicks/ego stroking, and blow off guys left and right like you mentioned because dancing "feels good". It's a load of crap to rationalize the ego stroking they get by all the guys gawking at them. If dressing up and dancing felt so good they'd be doing it in their living room where they can choose the music and drink for free. Many also get an added kick by destroying guys so they can feel good about themselves. Don't let yourself get used like that. . I usually never agree with you but must say i do have some agreement with the above. I do think there is a lot of ego boosting that women want when they get dressed as hot as they can and go clubbing and get ticked and call a man rude if he comes up to her and asks her to dance. Nothing wrong with the ego boost if that is what they want but what i do get ticked about are the ones who call guys creeps who hit on her. And yes ladies, it happens...a lot. Maybe YOU don't do it but MANY do. All the time. I won't pretend here - if i am dressing up in club clothes and think i look pretty good i am not going to act upset that 'a guy is disrespecting my space by asking me to dance". If i don't want to dance i can say no and be polite about it. Treat them like a human. And i agree with servedcold that for the most part men are not coming up to you and groping away unless they are really hammered and they are usually escorted out not long after that or go pass out on a couch. Most of them just come up alongside the girl and ask her if she wants to dance and sure they might say 'hey baby' or something like that. MOst people at the club are drunk - it isn't surprising at all to me and i don't get offended by it. I see women say the same things to men in a club if she has a few liquid glasses of courage and thinks he is hot. You never see men complain about feeling like a slab of meat in these instances. LOL Women feel they are empowered when they do this and the same women often are the ones who complain if the guy who asked her to dance or hit on her wasn't up to her expectations appearance wise. If he is hot, its all cool. If he isn't, he is a creep. One place that double standards amongst the genders are still alive and thriving is in clubs. Link to comment
jonny15 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 why be at a club if you dont enjoy dancing? seems kinda strange to me. I don't go to them. The only times I have was to try and talk to women. That never worked out I never went to dance tho. I went to go after chicks. Link to comment
girl68 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 I really don't get why someone would write someone off for not dancing. That just seems weird to me. I know some people like to dance, but........some don't. I would write him off because I love to dance. I dance all the time. I do it for fun, I do it to learn and I do it to compete. For me to be with a guy who will not dance, just would never work. Besides I enjoy dancing with my bf, so if he refused to ever step a step to a beat dancing with my girls can get old... Not to mention dancing is foreplay (for us). Link to comment
Shudder Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 I never went to dance tho. I went to go after chicks. thats the dumbest reason to go to a club. its too bad in this day of wannabe PUA's every other guy is doing it. I see it on the granville stretch (for those who live in vancouver) its so lame. Link to comment
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