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I think the pain of being apart from each other is better then the pain of never having a single friend or girlfriend to talk to and share a few laughs with. I am very ashamed of myself for being completely alone in life and for girls not ever being interested in me. Whenever I get feeling a bit better about myself I just realize how uninterested girls are in me weather its at work, or even on the internet nobody could give a * * * * about me. I tried those online dating things didn't come off any more desperate than anybody else was on there (even though I am) they were mainly intererested in traits I don't have like being good looking and assertive I am the opposite of both those things I am not good looking at all and im really shy. I even tried talking to the most unattractive girls I could find and they said I was nasty or they werent interested in me... this is just basically a * * * * my life rant all I have in life is my job and no friends no girlfriend * * * * all to show for anything and 23 years old. I don't want to die alone but its looking more and more like I will everyday. Im ranting on a forum to no friends im sure nobody even cares about this or me, so * * * * life I hate myself and wish I was never born... I am a man I have needs like every other man on earth and I am deprived of them.

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The things you desire are not what you really need at his point in your life. You need self esteem, self worth. You need to believe in yourself. Your negative self thoughts are the only things holding you back from what you want. I say this from experience, I am in similar shoes today but I do know what I need to work on.

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Hey man, sorry to hear that.

I've felt like you at times.

What I would say, is read these two books, they will help you so much with girls, and people in general. Trust me, they work.

Read "The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists" and "The Mystery Method: How to Get Beautiful Women into Bed". They will both help you tremendously.

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Everyone is there own worst critic... I'm sure you just haven't gone out there, extend your boundries, try something new... go to the mall, and strike up a random conversation you never know where that will lead you.

Looks aren't the only thing people look for dude, if you have a sensere personality I'm sure you have some positive.. Good sense of humor...

Ha all those are simple ways of meeting new people.


And i don't know you but I would be here for you if you needed a friend. If you ever need some one to talk to I'm here kidd, lol.. and I'm sure other people feel the same way.

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I will look into getting these books, if they can help me get a girl interested in me, or to sleep me with its worth the money. Internet porn gets old after a while, and being desperate when you aim for the ugliest girls and they reject you you know your doing something wrong. I will devote myself to studying these books and play by these rules. Thanks for the advice man

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What the hell kind of place doesn't have a mall? What about a supermarket? That's a good place as well.

Anyway, I personally like[i don't know how to put this gently]...dorks, losers, etc. It's just my thing.

Actually, a lot of girls like guys less attractive than them. What girl would want to date a guy that's prettier than her, right?

You'll be fine. Sorry, but this thread made me laugh. =]

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