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It's not really fair if you expect someone to do this for you if they want more.

Are we not on this earth to reproduce according to religion?

And have intimate relationships with others?

 

Not all religions teach that it's our obligation to reproduce. I think it's just a personal preference. It's not right or wrong to want children or not want children.

 

I believe that if I'm not prepared to have children then I have no business getting involved in real sex even if I get a vasectomy. I'm just speaking for myself here. I'm not applying this rule to anyone else.

 

Even though I'm not really convinced that a vasectomy will rule out the possibility of pregnancy I am willing to get it done anyway just to stack the deck in my favor. I am going to start saving money for this operation.

 

The combination of a vasectomy and abstaining from real sex and not going beyond phone sex will give me 0% chance of pregnancy.

 

I don't see how sex is an important part of a relationship when there are more aspects of a relationship such as having enough money in the bank to pay the bills, save for retirement, travel, buying gifts, buying a new car, etc.

 

How is a good sex life going to help put food on the table? How is a good sex life going to improve our economy? How is a good sex life going to improve communication skills in a relationship? How is a good sex life going to help keep my car and her car in good working condition? Communication and non-sexual affection are a higher priority for me.

 

Real sex takes up too much of my time and energy that I could be using to learn & explore more about the world around me.

 

I think I have more important things in life to worry about than sex. Sex may be desirable but it's not really a necessity. It's not going to help make the world a better place. If I'm running for political office I don't see how sex with my wife is going to make me a more productive president.

 

If the economy has fallen apart then it doesn't matter how good or how bad my sex life is. A good president would not even have the time & energy to worry about sexual intimacy with his wife.

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I'm afraid not. I need 100% foolproof not 99.9% Condoms actually have only a 70% chance of working. That's the truth.

 

 

 

 

Check your facts with that, condoms are a lot more reliable than that.

 

As for your question, no, i'd be long gone if the person I was dating told me phone sex or nothing. I'd happily move right along and let them be miserable by themselves. There are ways/things to use that can make the chances of getting pregnant highly unlikely.

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Sex is a big part of a healthy relationship because it creates and help maintain that close bond you share with the one person you are dating/married to. It also is a huge stress reliever and that helps a ton with a stressful relationship (After worrying about money, etc, etc..)

 

 

I still can't understand why you are so negative with your views on the world & relationships.

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Sex is a big part of a healthy relationship because it creates and help maintain that close bond you share with the one person you are dating/married to. It also is a huge stress reliever and that helps a ton with a stressful relationship (After worrying about money, etc, etc..)

 

 

I still can't understand why you are so negative with your views on the world & relationships.

 

When I'm stressed the last thing I want to do is get involved in any sexual activity. I want to work on fixing the problem that is causing me stress. I don't want any distractions sexual or otherwise.

 

The bond in my relationship should already be there apart from sex. If it's not then I don't really have a strong foundation for the relationship. thereforee sex is not going to make it any better. I could understand if sex was an expression of the bond that was already there but I would not use it in an attempt to create a bond.

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Gracerules, I have to ask because now I'm confused.

 

If you still have absolutely no intention of having sex, and still feel you're going to stick with phone sex...why waste money on a vasectomy?

 

it's not like the little guys are going to swim through the phone lines...

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I don't expect you to truly understand. I never said use it to create a bond however it is a great way to strengthen a bond you already have with that person on so many other levels that you can't do by just talking to each other.

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Gracerules, I have to ask because now I'm confused.

 

If you still have absolutely no intention of having sex, and still feel you're going to stick with phone sex...why waste money on a vasectomy?

 

it's not like the little guys are going to swim through the phone lines...

 

The vasectomy will come in handy just in case (and that's a big if) I am put in a rare situation where I'm extremely tempted to give in and have sex or if a woman puts a gun to my head ordering me to do it or die.

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I don't expect you to truly understand. I never said use it to create a bond however it is a great way to strengthen a bond you already have with that person on so many other levels that you can't do by just talking to each other.

 

"Sex is a big part of a healthy relationship because it creates and help maintain that close bond you share with the one person you are dating/married to"

 

You did say that it creates a bond.

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The vasectomy will come in handy just in case (and that's a big if) I am put in a rare situation where I'm extremely tempted to give in and have sex or if a woman puts a gun to my head ordering me to do it or die.

 

 

 

Yea like that is going to happen

 

 

If you have so much control over yourself and your life then obviously you should never be in a position where you are tempted to have sex. I mean you have everything else so planned out, you can't handle that small bit of control that it takes?

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"Sex is a big part of a healthy relationship because it creates and help maintain that close bond you share with the one person you are dating/married to"

 

You did say that it creates a bond.

 

Yes, it creates a PHYSICAL bond and closeness that you would not have otherwise if you were not having sex with that person. As I said, You would never understand.

 

 

I really think you like posting these absurd posts just for the replies and attention you receive.

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Yea like that is going to happen

 

 

If you have so much control over yourself and your life then obviously you should never be in a position where you are tempted to have sex. I mean you have everything else so planned out, you can't handle that small bit of control that it takes?

 

Getting the vasectomy to prepare for these potential rare episodes is taking control of my life. It's the same reason I have car insurance. I never know when I'll get into an accident but I don't look for it to happen. It's rare that I get into a car accident. I've been driving for 12 years and I've had about 2 minor fender benders in that time.

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The vasectomy will come in handy just in case (and that's a big if) I am put in a rare situation where I'm extremely tempted to give in and have sex or if a woman puts a gun to my head ordering me to do it or die.

 

LOL well if she held a gun to your head and forced you into submission, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be held responsible for any offspring that come out of it...

 

To each their own, really. I'm not trying to belittle your beliefs or be disrespectful...I guess I just can't understand removing something so intimate and beautiful from my relationship. It's something very special that we share together, and though our relationship is not at all BASED on sex or a physical matter at all...it would definitely change without it.

 

I think intimacy is the only way to get to know your partner really deeply..no pun intended...but certain bonds, feelings and emotions can't come from anything else.

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Getting the vasectomy to prepare for these potential rare episodes is taking control of my life. It's the same reason I have car insurance. I never know when I'll get into an accident.

 

Only you would compare sex & car insurance

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Getting the vasectomy to prepare for these potential rare episodes is taking control of my life. It's the same reason I have car insurance. I never know when I'll get into an accident but I don't look for it to happen. It's rare that I get into a car accident. I've been driving for 12 years and I've had about 2 minor fender benders in that time.

 

So, let me get this straight, it'd either be at gunpoint...or it'd be an accident? Man, just gets better.

 

 

"Oops, I tripped, and I fell into her. Accidentally. And then she got pregnant."

 

Just saying things like that makes it obvious that you have spent all this time trying to prove that you'd NEVER have sex again, only to say that you might?

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So, let me get this straight, it'd either be at gunpoint...or it'd be an accident? Man, just gets better.

 

 

"Oops, I tripped, and I fell into her. Accidentally. And then she got pregnant."

 

Just saying things like that makes it obvious that you have spent all this time trying to prove that you'd NEVER have sex again, only to say that you might?

 

 

Oh man I slipped and my *Insert that word here* went right inside her, shot off like a rocket and man that little thing just grew inside her.. What an accident. *sigh*

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shot off like a rocket.

 

oh, and don't forget, because this is REALLY a miracle... he'll be shooting blanks from his vasectomy, and then the miracle baby is gonna grow in her bladder or something because she will have had a hysterectomy... which are only 99% effective, despite the removal of the uterus.

 

Let me know when this story comes out on lifetime.

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If my current relationship is meant to die out then it's better that it dies without a kid on our hands than after having a kid on our hands.

 

At least a breakup without a child allows both of us to automatically make a clean break and go our separate ways. No financial obligations, no child support payments, etc. It would all just be a matter of healing emotional wounds.

 

I look at all my past relationships and I'm thankful that there were no children involved and that I never lived with any of my ex girlfriends.

 

Imagine how much worse hell I would have gone through if I had lived with any of them, had a kid and I got dumped. I would be forced to maintain some contact with them for the sake of the children. That's torture. I'm thankful that I've been fortunate enough to have the means to make a clean break and not having to worry about legal matters.

 

I believe it's important to always have the means necessary to make an automatic clean break if a breakup is meant to happen. That means no children and no living together. I don't want to be in a position where I'm living with her and we break up and she says "you can stay here until you get your own place." No way. I don't want the breakup to drag out until I get my own separate place.

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DUDE! YOUR CRAZY!!! we are born on this earth with a special purpose and that special purpose is to spread the seed man!!! lol. j/k..

 

man, if you dont want kids and want 100% you can do 3 options.

 

One, have a friend take a sledge hammer to your balls

Two, Buy a baby kitten and walk around the house naked. He will think your balls are toys and destroy them. (funny but true story i read)

 

Three, get a freakin Vasectomy!

 

Phone sex is for elementary school. Your a man, dont you enjoy the satisfaction of a warm punnany or do you enjoy the five finger fun better??? hmmmmm??

 

Most creative response i've read all day!

 

Gracerules, only phonesex is crazy and i doubt you will find many women to tolerate this.

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Most creative response i've read all day!

 

Gracerules, only phonesex is crazy and i doubt you will find many women to tolerate this.

 

 

don't i know it....I agree with this post Gracerules...you re in for a rough time

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don't i know it....I agree with this post Gracerules...you re in for a rough time

 

Something else I thought about. I gained several pounds over the holiday season of 2008.

 

Maybe this sex business won't be an issue anymore once she sees more recent pictures of me and she won't find me sexually attractive anymore anyway.

 

If that happens then all this talk about sticking to phone sex will be all for nothing.

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