anonimo Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 1. What would be a good comination of cardio and weight lifting for someone who wants to bulk up (while using protein and eating healthy) without giving their soul to an exercise regimen? 2. Is it true that excess protein consumption can lead to becoming a chubba lubba? 3. Should one consume protein on days that one does not lift and only does cardio? 4. How much lifting should be done time wise when consuming 1gram per pound of protein? 5. If one is sleepy due to lack of sleep (say 4hrs of sleep) it would probably be advisable not to work out that day, right? Link to comment
GoldenHillGuy Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 1. What would be a good comination of cardio and weight lifting for someone who wants to bulk up (while using protein and eating healthy) without giving their soul to an exercise regimen? 2. Is it true that excess protein consumption can lead to becoming a chubba lubba? 3. Should one consume protein on days that one does not lift and only does cardio? 4. How much lifting should be done time wise when consuming 1gram per pound of protein? 5. If one is sleepy due to lack of sleep (say 4hrs of sleep) it would probably be advisable not to work out that day, right? I got this book: link removed It actually came free with a Men's Heath mag subscription. It explains in DETAIL what kind of exercises and diet for whatever you're looking for. Size, strength, tone, runner, swimming, skiing, etc. I learned a lot from this book. Link to comment
coldplay. Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Excessive protein is fine as long as your working out. Try getting some glutamine with it, it will help your body metabolize the protein better. "giving your soul to an exercise routine" Looks like you want steroids (im in no way suggesting this), because it really takes about an hour a day, which for some is hard to do. Your muscles grow when your actually out of the gym, so your should be consuming a good diet, and protein at all times, especially on non training days. Sleep though is by far the most important aspect, there are alot of things that happen while you sleep, chemically and hormonally, that impact your healing of your muscles and all that good stuff. But really try to get 6+ a night, but as for working out on those sleepy days, as long as you arnt gonna pass out on the bench i think ull be fine. Link to comment
xCOREx Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 1. do heavy cardio. run bike hard. and lift big weights. max lbs lower reps. = big muscles. small lbs and max reps = small harder muscles. 2. yes if your body isnt using it all. 3.yes but less. 4.id say google this one as im not sure of the exact. id say take it easy on the protein. you will bulk up without it at all it just helps replenish a lil. Smaller does would be safer. 5.GET THE 8 hrs of sleep. you work out longer and harder. also the chems your body produces help with using up ur carbs and the like if you are short on sleep itll be harder to burn fat and stay toned while trying to bulk up. this will cause some major issues and is one of the most important things to do. i know from exp on this one. i am doing p90x atm and its obvious i cant cut it when im tired and it shows just how much sleep actually helps burn fat and keep that protein from building up in to uselessness. think of it this way if you stay up your body thinks it needs to save energy so it stores more instead of using it. if you sleep the 8 hrs then your body goes oh sweet i can blow through these carb no need to save for l8r. ---note--- creatine formulas are good for energy revival but you must drnk alot of water or will have some serious issues. take small at first i dont think loading is good for you. small steady doses. about the protein gain comment. if you arent using it its extra carb and cals. I suppose it depends on what you take for a mix. but i know the stuff i use would be only an extra 3 percent of daily carb value per shake. but id say id be better without that and with a bare salad. Link to comment
anonimo Posted January 7, 2009 Author Share Posted January 7, 2009 Goldenhill- I'll check out the book. Coldplay-I won't go the roid route,lol. When you say an hour a day are you referring to an hour a day of combined cardio and lifting or just lifting? XcoreX (aka cheese head, lol)- Thanks, how is that p90x? Link to comment
coldplay. Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 You could get away with an hour a day for everything. for example Lift 3 nonconsecutive days a week with cardio in between, as much as you see fit. You could cardio Everyday if you really wanted, but thats up to you. This is what im about to start link removed Link to comment
xCOREx Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 p90x is serious carp. its really hard and i cant do whatthey do on the DVD's. The idea is to do alot of dif things. I would honestly not buy the DVD's i am borrowing them. Upper body one day. lower body next. upperbody. cardio. yoga repeat. thats P90x basically. I think coldplay has a good idea. Plus taking a jog before lifting can help the effectivness of the workout. Link to comment
Stinkweed Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 1. What would be a good comination of cardio and weight lifting for someone who wants to bulk up (while using protein and eating healthy) without giving their soul to an exercise regimen? 2. Is it true that excess protein consumption can lead to becoming a chubba lubba? 3. Should one consume protein on days that one does not lift and only does cardio? 4. How much lifting should be done time wise when consuming 1gram per pound of protein? 5. If one is sleepy due to lack of sleep (say 4hrs of sleep) it would probably be advisable not to work out that day, right? 1. link removed link removed The second link has a great beginner's lifting routine, and the second one explains the real difference between trying to get strong without gaining a lot of size (a martial artist/athlete) vs. wanting to gain size and strength (bodybuilder/strongman). Lots of compound lifts, like in the second link, will help you gain size all over the body much quicker than using dumbbells and lots of isolation exercises. And if you want to gain muscle/weight, you'll have to eat a lot too. There are some guidelines for that in that link too. As for cardio, don't overdo it, especially if you want to get big quickly, do just enough to get some blood pumping for a healthy heart. 2. Anything that you consume excess of will lead to chubba bubba. Be it carbs, fats or protein. People think they can get away with eating 10 pounds of meat and 3 bags of lettuce a day and not get fat just cause they're not really eating carbs that affect your glycemic index, but truth is, excess calories are excess calories. Plus complex carbs (whole grains, fruits, vegetables...) are pretty useful for the body. 3. Yes. Your muscles still need it for recovery. 4. 1g per gram of protein is about right, I think. Don't quote me on that. As time spent lifting, if you follow that beginner's program I gave you a link to, it'll be like 20 minutes in the beginning. It's gonna get harder as you progress and get stronger, but will need longer periods of time to recover between sets, so it's probably gonna get longer. It's probably never going to be an hour, though. 5. Sleep is very very important. Just try your best to get 8 hours a night. If you're to sleepy one morning but think you can go to bed early that same day, then I'd say go ahead and do it, but sleep is very necessary so that your body recovers from the stress you put it through. I've noticed I get a pretty bad case of the flu if I don't sleep enough but keep working out as if I were. But if you slept 4 hours one night cause of homework or something, then I think you'd best sleep in and try to work out later that day, perhaps. Link to comment
veneratio Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 2. No, not protein consumption alone. 3. Yes 4. Same amount without protein. The norm is 45 minutes to an hour. 5. Sleep..just as important as diet to me. If I haven't slept much the night before, I'm definitely seeing it in my lifts. I still workout regardless, though, I just know my lifts are going to be harder or off a few lbs. Link to comment
ghost69 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 1. What would be a good comination of cardio and weight lifting for someone who wants to bulk up (while using protein and eating healthy) without giving their soul to an exercise regimen? you want to bulk up? eat all day. you don't have to dedicate your soul to lifting, but you won't get too big working out for 30 minutes and leaving the gym. 2. Is it true that excess protein consumption can lead to becoming a chubba lubba? not really. your body just doesn't grab the excess and you pee it out. but it does affect the liver. 3. Should one consume protein on days that one does not lift and only does cardio? yes. you still need protein. the muscles are being worked and even from being worked the lift day before are still screaming for it. 4. How much lifting should be done time wise when consuming 1gram per pound of protein? just gotta fatigue the muscle. hit the weight hard. and change it up bi-weekly at least. 5. If one is sleepy due to lack of sleep (say 4hrs of sleep) it would probably be advisable not to work out that day, right? that's about how much sleep i get. Link to comment
Stinkweed Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 I decided to elaborate on my 2nd answer since everybody seems to believe that excess protein will not make you gain chub. 2.Excess protein is broken down by the body into peptides, which are broken down into amino acids. These are absorbed through the small intestine and enter the bloodstream, and these are the the ones that build up in your body's reservoirs cause you definitively need them to maintain tissue healthy and recover from whatever injuries your muscles or muscle fibers will have. However, the excess amino acids WILL be converted to fat and sugars and behave exactly like when eating fat and sugar. So excess protein will make you fat. The way I see it, excess calories are excess calories. If he's trying to get big he will need an excess, but let's say his maintenance level is around 2000, then he should eat about 3000 if he's gonna be doing cardio and wants to get big. However if he started eating 10000 like Michael Phelps, even if it's pure protein, he will get uber fat fast (not to mention what it'll do to his kidneys), unless he started training like Michael Phelps, which is unlikely unless he's willing to take on a sport as a full-time job. Proteins are not like water-soluble vitamins that you can just pee out... Link to comment
drewciouS281 Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Its hard to bulk up when your doing cardio in the mix. Cardio enables you to burn fat, bulking up you need some excess fat. Since its winter time, its considered the off season so you can put on alittle weight to bulk up. but..... there is an alternative. Ive taken a supplement called tren xtreme. Its a pro hormone. Its not a steroid. All it does is take your bodies natural testosterone and feed more of it into your muscles. You will put on lean muscle mass and once your off it, you take a supplement called novadex to get your testorone levels back to normal faster and in return you will cut up insanely. After i do that, i take a couple months off and just eat right. All natural. No protien either. Protien upsets my stomach plus ive heard from numerous trainers that acces protein you just pooo out. or, just lift really heavy 3 times a week and do cardio 2 to 3 times a week in between. 5 to 6 small meals throughout the day. higher carbs in morning for fats, but lower carbs in evening so it doesnt turn into un nesscary fats! Link to comment
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