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lets say people helped you be in the situation you are in and you had no choice but to kill yourself, would you kill the people who helped kill you? Lets say you have physical problems you are just unable to live with, this is my current dilema, I really wish I didnt have to go this route but I dont think I have a choice, I cant go on in the shape I am in, just impossible being 29 years old and never really living a life

 

I wish I could just kill myself but my concience isnt allowing it, people really need to pay for what they have done to me

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Honestly, I'd just kill myself and not involve anyone else. No one tries to screw anyone over on purpose.

 

Taking it further, I wouldn't even kill myself, I'd just try to reevaluate my goals and try to live a life I can be proud of even if it isn't what I expected it would be originally.

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lets say people helped you be in the situation you are in and you had no choice but to kill yourself, would you kill the people who helped kill you? Lets say you have physical problems you are just unable to live with, this is my current dilema, I really wish I didnt have to go this route but I dont think I have a choice, I cant go on in the shape I am in, just impossible being 29 years old and never really living a life

 

I wish I could just kill myself but my concience isnt allowing it, people really need to pay for what they have done to me

 

What are the physical problems you're talking about?

 

And no - the scenario you're giving out is one where you get a suicide bomber or one of those crazed gun killings; I think most people would agree that they are pretty evil people

 

Tell us why you feel so bad?

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I wouldnt kill innocent people, just people who deserve to die for different reasons

 

The problem is your not judge, jury and exacutioner. It's not up to you to decide if someone else lives or dies. I understand they did something to you and you feel they should pay but that is why we have courts and laws.

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I wouldnt kill innocent people, just people who deserve to die for different reasons

 

It is not up to you to decide who "deserves to die". If we all took it upon ourselves to make those judgements, it would be a truly terrifying world.

 

Whatever your pain, whatever the cause, whoever may have been involved, you will receive no relief by trying to exact revenge on someone else for your own inability to find happiness with whatever your limitations are. Bad things happen to good people all the time. Whether or not there are others to "blame" is irrelevant. Blaming does nothing to help you move beyond your current situation and find other ways to be happy.

 

My personal belief is that the best revenge is a life lived well. If anyone INTENDED to RUIN your life, the best thing you can do, is to not let them. If they did not INTEND to ruin your life, I can't imagine why you'd think they deserve to die.

 

Finally, killing someone teaches them nothing. They'd be dead. All it does is hurt those left behind who loved the murdered. So that choice would, in fact, hurt innocent people.

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I read some of your previous posts & it sounds like your physical problem is varicocle; is that the problem you are referring to here?

 

Here is what I read on wikipedia about your condition:

 

Varicoceles develop slowly and may not have any symptoms. They occur in 15-20% of all males, and in 40% of infertile males. Varicocele is usually harmless and normally doesn't require treatment. If surgery is required because of infertility or testicular atrophy, the outlook is usually excellent. Removal of varicocele can lead to normal testicular temperatures and an increased sperm production.

 

I'm not in your shoes and I'm not going to tell you "oh, it's not that bad" because maybe you have more symptoms from this condition than most people who have it do... but, there are a lot of guys who have this condition! Almost 1 out of 4! It's not a death sentence, why don't you get treatment? You are forcing yourself to suffer with this condition when it is very treatable.

 

Also, you posted this in one of your previous threads:

 

I created these physical problems for myself because I couldnt get over something a few years ago

 

So you blame yourself for this but you also blame other people.. but how could you or these other people possibly be at fault for a condition that is basically varicose veins?

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ha I promise you it is more then that, and I promise you the symptoms I have are worse then what the doctors and research have, I currently have almost no testosterone in my body

 

but it is more then just the varicocele and the testosterone

 

 

And how this happened can probably be explained, as to how other peoples caused it , it isnt a matter of just veins showing up there

 

again I partially blame myself but if I hadnt been put in this position by other people it never would have happened, but there are other things as well, I blame myself to a degree but I also blame other people

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ha I promise you it is more then that, and I promise you the symptoms I have are worse then what the doctors and research have, I currently have almost no testosterone in my body

 

but it is more then just the varicocele and the testosterone

 

 

And how this happened can probably be explained, as to how other peoples caused it , it isnt a matter of just veins showing up there

 

again I partially blame myself but if I hadnt been put in this position by other people it never would have happened, but there are other things as well, I blame myself to a degree but I also blame other people

 

I'm going to guess you aren't going to answer the following questions because you haven't directly answered them in previous posts, but how could you or other people have caused this condition?

 

I didn't see anything about a depletion of testosterone related to varicocele, so that must be something else entirely. I know you don't like to put drugs in your body, but getting testosterone treatments is replacing something your body is supposed to have. If you built up a sweat you wouldn't hesitate to get a glass of water to replace those fluids you lost. You are considering completely destroying your body by committing suicide but you are unwilling to consider allowing your body to receive something it needs because you have a thing against drugs. Do you see how that logic is conflicting?

 

It must be hard having such severe physical problems along with mental issues (depression?). It would make anyone bitter & just not being able to physically do things can be very depressing. But I wonder if there is anything that can be done medically to help you, which would in turn probably make you a happier person.

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When you die it's not over, not to go all super natural etc. But when I think of doing anything bad, not to that scale, think of where you go after you die. You're in no control, and if you do bad things, yeah maybe hell, maybe not, but if you do go there, imagine eternity of hell, or something bad. I can't explain but it's not too late to change this.

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When you die it's not over, not to go all super natural etc. But when I think of doing anything bad, not to that scale, think of where you go after you die. You're in no control, and if you do bad things, yeah maybe hell, maybe not, but if you do go there, imagine eternity of hell, or something bad. I can't explain but it's not too late to change this.

 

haha there is no god, I can assure you that, I am not an idiot, I know this is the end and all there is, amazing how some people are so brainwashed

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I was like you.

But I thought about, everything. What I'm in, what I see before me. The start of everything. If you think, how did EVERYTHING start, the big bang, so you get to the ultimate start of everything...but it's not, something can't come from nothing, there must be a start somewhere, but then they can't be, cos something can't come from absoloutly nothing, not even blackness, cos blackness is something. So I just think this world isn't what it seems, and we're living in something which is really messed up, so I'm not going to put a food wrong, I'm just saying. Maybe if you thought about things like this to your self, most people are too focused thinking inside the box.

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I was like you.

But I thought about, everything. What I'm in, what I see before me. The start of everything. If you think, how did EVERYTHING start, the big bang, so you get to the ultimate start of everything...but it's not, something can't come from nothing, there must be a start somewhere, but then they can't be, cos something can't come from absoloutly nothing, not even blackness, cos blackness is something. So I just think this world isn't what it seems, and we're living in something which is really messed up, so I'm not going to put a food wrong, I'm just saying. Maybe if you thought about things like this to your self, most people are too focused thinking inside the box.

 

whatever I believed in god when I was younger, part of my problem still traumatized

 

I will be talking to a brick wall and you can believe what you want but there is no evidence of a god and the thought of a god is insane, I am a complete Atheist 100%, there is no god, that is something I am 100% positive of

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