gracerules2008 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 I just got off my cell phone with my girlfriend. Well really that's the only phone I use. I don't have a landline phone and don't need one. Both my mom and my girlfriend have told me that it's not good to talk on the cell phone because it can give you brain cancer. Do I believe this? absolutely NOT! I think that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. It's just like those who say that you get cancer from standing in front of the microwave. Well I've been standing in front of the microwave waiting for my meals to warm up for over 15 years and I feel fine. I laugh so hard everytime I hear someone say that talking on cell phones give you cancer. So what's your opinion on this? Do you think talking on the cell phone can give you cancer? why or why not? Cell phones have been the way of the world in the last 8 years. Just about everyone I come in contact with has a cell phone so this cancer business is just a bunch of malarchy. My girlfriend also made mention that I spend far too much sitting in front of the computer and she said that's probably why I get headaches. I have been getting headaches lately but it's not because of sitting in front of the computer. I think it's because I haven't been getting as much sleep as I used to. Link to comment
heatspreader Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 I have no idea what it comes from but it is odd how many people ARE getting cancer these days. It is coming from something. Link to comment
littlestar Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 There's a lot of Drs saying it can cause cancer. I spend heaps of time on my cell phone. I am not sure i believe anything they say though! Link to comment
Alezia Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 I do believe it's harmful to the body. The government has long tried to pass things as safe that weren't. If you want to take the risk or not, that's totally up to you. I think that's what society has come down to anyways now that the link between technology and accidents/disease is blurred! Link to comment
gracerules2008 Posted December 19, 2008 Author Share Posted December 19, 2008 There's a lot of Drs saying it can cause cancer. I spend heaps of time on my cell phone. I am not sure i believe anything they say though! Yeah I don't believe most things a doctor tells me. They're just trying to make money. It's a business and they will look for any excuse they can find to put you on medication. They've already tried to stick me on some antidepressants and I said no thanks. When I went for physical I've had to lie about my family history just so they wouldn't have an excuse to do extra blood tests on me. So in the future I won't tell a doctor that I'm depressed. Link to comment
rose2summer Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 You could always use headphones with your cell phone, then you are distant from the any radiation emmanating from the phone. Link to comment
Creative Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 The thing we're unsure of is whether cellphone will cause health effects in the long run. The case is similar to genetically modified food and whether modified DNA in the food would be able to transfer it to our cell and cause health consequences. They're unsure because the invention hasn't been studied / used long enough for us to make any conclusive evidence - just like cellphones. The thing we're unsure of is whether it is degenerative, meaning it may take years before DNA damage is great enough, and mutation is large enough to cause cancer. But current evidence point towards no health effect, so government agencies approves of it. However, in the case of Genetically modified foods, Europe took the safe way and had to labeled for customers to choose from. If you're worried, I know there are deflective chips where you can just stick it to your cellphone and most radio waves won't concentrate where your cellphone is. Link to comment
rose2summer Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 I used to have a radiation detector, to see what had high radiation versus low. It's amazing how much certain things will give you great amounts of radiation. I was concerned about the cell phone and don't like headphones, so I bought a Vonage phone and get unlimited calls, and can take it to any country I travel to, plug it in, and make international calls, or what not for a set fee each month. Link to comment
ghost69 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 cellphone waves are going through our bodies at all times. so many frequencies traveling through us all day and all night. one cellphone to the ear isn't going to do much different. just my opinion though, not medically proven. Link to comment
metrogirl Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 According to all these health experts, anything we do is going to give us cancer. Talk on the phone....cancer, breathe dirty air...cancer, eat certain foods......cancer. Link to comment
15 Storeys High Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Yeah I don't believe most things a doctor tells me. They're just trying to make money. It's a business and they will look for any excuse they can find to put you on medication. They've already tried to stick me on some antidepressants and I said no thanks. When I went for physical I've had to lie about my family history just so they wouldn't have an excuse to do extra blood tests on me. So in the future I won't tell a doctor that I'm depressed. So what would happen if you were misdiagnosed or a disease was missed because you lied to your doctor? Who's fault would it be? Things don't "give" you cancer....they just increase your risk factors. For instance using a mobile phone 24 7, eating crappy foods, doing no exercise, having a family history of cancer.....they're all things that increase your risk of developing cancer. They don't "give" you cancer. Link to comment
Mythical_Suicide Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 According to all these health experts, anything we do is going to give us cancer. Talk on the phone....cancer, breathe dirty air...cancer, eat certain foods......cancer. One day it will be proven that sleeping causes cancer Link to comment
sarey Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 One day it will be proven that sleeping causes cancer They can shove off with that then! I need my beauty sleep. Link to comment
ghost69 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 One day it will be proven that sleeping causes cancer or showering. i love being clean. Link to comment
karvala Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 One day it will be proven that sleeping causes cancer Don't worry, you're quite safe on that one: link removed I can also tell that it benefits you in many other ways, including losing weight (though that effect is marginal) and improving your memory. So three cheers for Link to comment
sarey Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Sleeping reduces the appetite I think that's why. Link to comment
gracerules2008 Posted December 21, 2008 Author Share Posted December 21, 2008 So what would happen if you were misdiagnosed or a disease was missed because you lied to your doctor? Who's fault would it be? I feel I have every right to question what the doctor wants to put into my body. I'm the one paying for the doctor's visit so I should be the boss as to what kind of treatment is acceptable. For some people unquestioning obedience to doctors orders works for them and they end up taking lots of medications that are expensive. It does not work for me. I question everything and for the most part I can tell that makes doctors upset. The fact they would get a little upset gives me more reason to be suspicious of the fact that they just want my money. They don't care about me. I don't believe over half the things that doctors tell me I should be doing or not doing. Don't put it past them that they are more interested in making money than in you as a patient. You know yourself. You should know more about how your body works than any doctor does. Last time I checked it's not illegal to lie to a doctor about your family history. Link to comment
Mythical_Suicide Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 You seem to be very anti everyone who is out to help you. Is there any reason behind this? you seem to think everyone is the scum of the earth or only out to hurt you judging by all of your posts. Link to comment
gracerules2008 Posted December 21, 2008 Author Share Posted December 21, 2008 You seem to be very anti everyone who is out to help you. Is there any reason behind this? you seem to think everyone is the scum of the earth or only out to hurt you judging by all of your posts. I'm just a person who is not afraid to question everything I hear. If other people don't like that then that's all the more reason for me not to trust them. There's no reason for a doctor to get upset for questioning his recommendations unless he has some kind of agenda. I am there to get my money's worth. I'm not there to make the doctors happy. I pay good money for my visits and I expect fair treatment and to feel free to question what I'm being told. If I'm selling a product then I would expect and welcome my customers to ask me all the questions they want. I want my customers to make sure they get their money's worth for buying my product. Health care is a business like it or not. It's no different than any other business. I'm already in the process of finding another doctor because of an issue that happened last year. Link to comment
Creative Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 No worries, a couple of my profs also expressed their concern with doctor's practices. The truth is that doctors also doesn't know everything. They do what they're trained to do, and they have good intent. I've also refused to take certain medications because I had bad experience with it before where it weakened my body to an even worse state, and yes, he looked offended when i refused. I don't doubt he's prescribing it for only my stake and not for the money (since he gets nothing from prescribing medications), but that when I refused, I've indirectly insulted him of his competence. I've learned my lesson, and the next time he prescribe something, i'll just take his prescription and then not get the medication. Link to comment
15 Storeys High Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 You didn't actually answer my question. Link to comment
sidehop Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Cell phone frequencies at least is causing great effect on population of the bee's... Link to comment
tiredofvampires Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Things don't "give" you cancer.... Maybe not "give", but wouldn't it be fair to say that some things can "cause" cancer? Like, for instance, smoking, radiation poisoning and some kinds of viruses (because their genetic material causes aberrant cell growth, e.g. the HPV virus on cervical tissue)? I'm no cancer expert, but to my knowledge, there's technically only ONE cause of cancer -- the disruption of DNA and the consequent mutation of a cell that can't stop dividing. This cell then divides indefinitely, crowding out healthy cells, taking over an organ and surrounding tissues, and finally distant tissues (when those cells break off and migrate). So anything that causes a cell's DNA to become disrupted is a potential cancer-causing agent. The body's immune system as well as genes themselves are programmed to mark such abnormal cells and destroy them. Our bodies are killing cancer cells all the time. But when a certain agent is strong enough to overpower the immune system, or the body's exposed to it long enough, the checks and balances don't destroy those mutant cells anymore and you get cancer. EMF's (electromagnetic frequencies) are a form of radiation that do cause disruption of DNA. "Electropollution" is a reality -- radio towers emitting frequencies surround us, and they are beamed into cell phones, that come into direct contact with our bodies. I personally don't want powerful conductors of hazardous waveforms bombarding my cells on a daily basis, as far as I can help it. In a world with computers though and surrounded by towers and electonic devices, it's almost unavoidable. But I'm looking into ways to protect myself...and a start is that I don't use a cell phone except on a very occasional basis when I'm away from home and need to urgently reach someone. In addition to DN's google search on the matter: link removed link removed Link to comment
raining.stars Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Everything causes cancer these days. I am wondering though are most of these studies on mice? because in my experience all mice eventually get a tumor of some sort regarless of any cancer causing agent, so how accurate are these studies? Link to comment
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