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I recently started at university, studying Politics and International Relations. Sussex, where I study, is a very left-wing place; lots of socialism here. I am, however, completely the opposite - if anything, I'm more of a liberal conservative. On other courses, it doesn't seem to affect people. I have noticed a bias here, especially as most of my seminar tutors, lecturers etc, are highly influenced by Marx. Personally, I think this is horrible, and an insult to the people who actually lived under Communism - it's basically studying a fascist theory.

 

So, naturally, I'm in quite a dilemma; I just don't feel comfortable with this place. I can't afford to start again on another course, so I don't know what to do.

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I'm at odds with a lot of the politics at my university. Not as far away from the median as you are perhaps, but I understand your frustration.

 

In general, I never argue with professors. I will raise questions, and question theories, but am sure not to appear too argumentative or critical. No point in making people angry. I participate very actively in class discussions - I'm a political science major - but those are generally more theoretical. I do all the reading and think about my ideas so that I have a robust case to make.

 

A lot of the throw away comments I just brush off. I've also learned not to take things personally.

 

I talk politics with quite a few friends - a lot of whom disagree with me - but only with those where I know our conversations won't turn nasty. I love sharing and hearing points of view, and have had very good discussions with people.

 

The hardest part for me is being called ignorant and uninformed, along with other choice insults, because of my opinion. That's just not true. When it starts to get to me, I vent to some friends I have who are way further from the average than I am, always feel better.

 

It might be helpful for you to find a group on campus that caters to your ideology, so you can develop your thought with them and find some "co-conspirators" on campus. But don't shut yourself off to the ideas of others.

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I recently started at university, studying Politics and International Relations. Sussex, where I study, is a very left-wing place; lots of socialism here. I am, however, completely the opposite - if anything, I'm more of a liberal conservative. On other courses, it doesn't seem to affect people. I have noticed a bias here, especially as most of my seminar tutors, lecturers etc, are highly influenced by Marx. Personally, I think this is horrible, and an insult to the people who actually lived under Communism - it's basically studying a fascist theory.

 

So, naturally, I'm in quite a dilemma; I just don't feel comfortable with this place. I can't afford to start again on another course, so I don't know what to do.

 

Honestly if that is your way of thinking I don't believe politics is the best thing for you to be studying. Perhaps you would benefit from an Accounting degree ? Most Accountants seem to be extremely right wing in their views.

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Honestly if that is your way of thinking I don't believe politics is the best thing for you to be studying. Perhaps you would benefit from an Accounting degree ? Most Accountants seem to be extremely right wing in their views.

 

That's just untrue, and kind of insulting.

 

Henri,

If you feel strongly about your right wing ideas, there is no better way to refine them by studying the other side of things. Then you can debate the theories more and contribute more to your own education.

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That's just untrue, and kind of insulting.

 

Henri,

If you feel strongly about your right wing ideas, there is no better way to refine them by studying the other side of things. Then you can debate the theories more and contribute more to your own education.

 

Yes but to label communism as facist is plainly inaccurate. I'm not saying I am for or against communism just that a person with a desire to study politics should be more open minded. Facism and Communism are completely different sides of the spectrum.

 

An accounting degree will allow him to study economics electives, and select from a range of subjects that are right wing orientated and left wing orientated and it won't be hard to tell which is which. If you have no tolerance for left wing views, a politics degree is the wrong place for you to be studying. Left wing studies are relatively new and have not been properly explored so they will naturally be a big part of a politics degree. If you go back in history most political structures are very right wing.

 

Science should observe both sides of the argument with impartiality, labeling communism facist show a lack of desire to do so. Which is why I think a politics degree might be the wrong degree.

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Yes but to label communism as facist is plainly inaccurate. I'm not saying I am for or against communism just that a person with a desire to study politics should be more open minded. Facism and Communism are completely different sides of the spectrum.

 

An accounting degree will allow him to study economics electives, and select from a range of subjects that are right wing orientated and left wing orientated and it won't be hard to tell. If you have no tolerance for left wing views, a politics degree is the wrong place for you.

 

Science should observe both sides of the argument with impartiality, labeling communism facist show a lack of desire to do so. Which is why I think a politics degree might be the wrong degree.

 

 

I agree with this.

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Does it matter what other people think or believe?

 

I went to university in a redneck conservative city and i'm pretty opposite to that.

 

Isn't that how you learn to 'justify' your own opinions? If everyone around you thought the same as you did, then you wouldn't learn very much.

 

I think its a good thing when people have different opinions.. it helps you to challenge your beleifs and learn about others as well.

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I received my B.A. from one of the most liberal colleges in the country. I'm proud to be a Republican, so it was a different point-of-view. People thought I would be real unfriendly and uptight, hah! I made a lot of friends and even change some into Republicans. I never argue politics, that's a no-fly zone with me. It can get dangerous to be a quasi-conservative in California. People get attacked verbally and physically here if you're not a Democrat in L.A. So, my friends and I keep pretty quiet. We vote, though. As far as school goes, it never hurts to listen to somebody else's viewpoint. It's called learning.

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I think you will find most Universities to be quite left-leaning.

 

When I went to University I was in a philosophy class where the teacher was the Party Leader for the Canadian Communist Party; you really can't get more left-leaning than that.

 

It's not so bad when you have a professor who respects your opinion even though they disagree with it. That doesn't happen all the time though. Sometimes it is best to just suck it up write what they want to hear and get a good grade.

 

* The Philosophy professor was such a {explicative}. I remember he was having a debate with on girl in the class, about abortion I think. She gave her view with solid arguments, then he looked at her and said "You don't really believe that, but I don't have time to explain to you why you don't. So we are moving on." We actually had at least 80% of the class walk over to the Dean's office after class one day to complain about the guy. The only thing we wanted was to make sure he never taught that course again.

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I certainly didn't expect you to personally attack me on here, making assumptions which are, for the most part, entirely false. You clearly need some kind of political education yourself. Communism and Fascism are highly similar, especially the Stalinist theories. The main difference, is that one focuses on 'race', and the other on 'class' - two concepts which today hold little weight.

 

Whenever either system has been put into practice, it has resulted in barbarism and persecution. Just take a look at the death tolls and conditions of life in the Soviet Union and People's Republic of China. I think that for Marxism, with its barbaric consequences well documented now, to be taught at university level is simply appalling, and a huge insult to the families of people who lived, and in many cases died, under it.

 

And also, I am not 'Extreme right' at all. I consider my views to be moderate, and classically liberal. I also have no interest in accounting, and I think that it is highly unfair of you to pander to stereotypes in that manner.

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Well, there must be more options but off the top I can think of two positive options:

 

- Take the cut and leave. Loss of money, but opportunity to try something different. Lots of things you could do with that free time - either work, find the money to take the course elsewhere, whatever.

 

-Use this as a learning experience the best you can. Maybe not so much in terms of course material - but this is real politics in action. lol. I'm sure there is TONNES you can learn by working with people so different than yourself.

 

So who pays for the profs salaries? lol. j/k.

 

There are PLENTY of moderate, or even closer to a conservative school experience if you want....might cost more for you, might require a lot to do it...but the option is there if it is important enough to you.

 

Meanwhile, I think I'd finish the course and learn what I can ...and I'm sure though some are extreme there, there must be a mix and there must be some teachers and students there who run the gamut. Anywhere you go; you are going to run into some who are going to grate on you so that's somewhat a valuable experience in itself.

 

I do however feel that Cap has a certain point....in that from your posts, it is obvious it not only them bringing their slants to the classroom, but possibly you as well.

 

Just going off your comments which are loaded with interpretation and belief re: Communism, already in your posts.

 

You already know that Communism/Socialism/Marxism....eh, they aren't all the same thing, and especially not out of the same mouths - like anything, there is a lot of interpreting and personalizing going into the mix when meeting people on an individual level. That also applies in individual classes, courses, schools, teachers, .......etc etc...

 

But if you can't get anything out of the course, well, the option is to drop and do something else. Not the end of the world there.

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I think it was overall, a great thing for me to study at a college that was not in my comfort zone. I would stick it out. When you see people who think differently than you as just folks, well, you can't get a better education than that. Acceptance of viewpoints different than your own. What a concept!

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The vast majority of schools are going to be liberal, and a good number of them are going to be VERY liberal.

 

I'm very liberal myself, radical in many ways, but I'm not an idealist. I don't like to associate myself with these university people. They're white ivory tower semi-wealthy people who don't know a damn thing about the hardships faced in this world. I can go on and on about this, but many professors and the students that blindly follow them are hypocrites who are in their own worlds.

 

So my point - don't let school politics influence you, because their view is distorted. Think for yourself.

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I have opinions on the recent election and on some issues I am very opinionated. However I really dont like arguing politics with people. It bores me and usually nothing happens but people becoming angry at each other.

 

 

As far as my school, I havent notice any mention of politics. Im in engineering and its great as all the courses are technical in nature and there is no room for political discussion there. Even when I had business and finance and economic courses there was still very little mention of politics.

 

Obviously if you are doing Political Science type majors then politics will be much more involved. If you really arent enjoying it then I would transfer to a different major that isnt involved in politics. Unless you think you can tough it out and when you are looking for work you can find something more aligned with your views. The advantage could be that if the majority of your university is left leaning and a particular employer is looking for someone right leaning then you dont have much competition from other students from your program.

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