annie24 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Halo - you're in the UK, where the age of consent is 16. however, in america, it is 18, and this woman can potentially get arrested for a nude drawing of a teenager. now, i'm not quite sure about the specific laws where he lives, but obviously it is a very real possibility that what she has proposed is illegal, at least, until he turns 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_22 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 ...Hehe. If she's hot, I would do it, but that's just me. Talk to your folks about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agent1607307371 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 OK, well I dont want her to get in trouble for this, it would be stupid. But to run off and tell my parents when she asked me is pretty much like saying I'm a baby and can't make a decision. Yes, its doubftul my parents would approve. I dont think they fullyunderstand why were friends to begin with. I understand that you don't want to be seen as a baby, but this isn't the kind of issue that would make it seem so. If you want to be seen as an adult and mature, actually talking to them about this is the way to go about it. Secrecy is childish. This is an adult woman putting you in the position that is very morally dubious. I don't see why she can't satisfy her need for nude models with of age and professional models until you are legal. I actually thought that she was a family friend. That she is not a friend of your parents does not excuse her from doing the right thing and seeking their permission. She isn't asking because she knows that her actions would be percieved as they are intended. There's an idea that artists can behave as they want and sod society and it's mores off. Many do, but this is not a case of being bohemian. It's a case of being very stupid at best or sinister at worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanBiff Posted August 22, 2008 Author Share Posted August 22, 2008 This is an adult woman putting you in the position that is very morally dubious. ..I actually thought that she was a family friend. Yea, morally dubious - that's right. The family friend part - well, she got to know me because she and my mom knew eachother from school or something, but now its just her and me being friends, she doesn't really hang out with our family much anymore. Halo and some of the other posters think I want to just jump into something with this woman - well, I've never had a girlfriend, so I'm conflicted and anyway I don't know if thats whats going on anyway. I just think she wants to draw me that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Applewhite Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 I draw nudes myself. Non of them being 17! If she's that into art, I bet she has no problem finding models, even professional ones (heck if I can she can, and I am by no means a professional artist either). So yes it is fishy and creepy if she wants this from you. Do tell your parents. Also did she in any way tell you you shouldn't tell them? 'Personally I think telling my parents would make me look like an infant.' Do you feel this way because of something she said? If this really was a casual, art related get together, there should be no hesitance on her side to tell your parents about it. Is she on purpose trying to avoid this? Also I'm curious, how much older is she? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanBiff Posted August 22, 2008 Author Share Posted August 22, 2008 Also did she in any way tell you you shouldn't tell them? No she didn't - it just came up casually, like "You should pose for me" but she didn't say to keep it secret or anything. Also I'm curious, how much older is she? I don't know. My mom is 43 so I guess around there, but she looks younger than my mom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annie24 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 i think it's ok to pose for her, as long as your clothes are on... when do you turn 18? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanBiff Posted August 22, 2008 Author Share Posted August 22, 2008 i think it's ok to pose for her, as long as your clothes are on... when do you turn 18? I've already posed with my shirt off. I turn 17 on Sept 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annie24 Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 i think you are far too young to be doing nudes for her. she should really know better. i bet your parents would be pissed if they knew she asked to do a nude drawing of you, don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanBiff Posted August 23, 2008 Author Share Posted August 23, 2008 i think you are far too young to be doing nudes for her. she should really know better. i bet your parents would be pissed if they knew she asked to do a nude drawing of you, don't you think? Yes, prolly. They dont know s--- about art tho to be truthful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Advice Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 She should have gotten permission from your parents before suggesting it, but I otherwise have no problem with it. 17 is hardly 6, and I doubt he is in a position where he is going to get raped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Advice Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 far too young for doing nudes? He is 1 year away from being able to do them without his parents permission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanBiff Posted August 26, 2008 Author Share Posted August 26, 2008 She should have gotten permission from your parents before suggesting it, but I otherwise have no problem with it. 17 is hardly 6, and I doubt he is in a position where he is going to get raped. Yes, thanks! I still haven't decided yet. She brought it up last week and I just said I'd think about it ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annie24 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 far too young for doing nudes? He is 1 year away from being able to do them without his parents permission. true, he's just 1 year away... however, he is still legally a minor, and an adult should not be asking a minor to strip so she can draw pictures of him. i'm pretty sure that's illegal where he lives. why can't this artist woman find a 18 or 19 year old if she wants to sketch a young man instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riley123 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Hmmm, I'm on the fence with this one. I agree with everyone who has said that he is a minor and the older woman is in danger of entering some pretty grey territory. But at the same time, the OP seems to possess a maturity level (based on his posts) that leads me to believe he is perfectly capable of making a decision on his own accord. However, I think Annie's question of why she can’t find a model who is 18 or 19 is a good question. Aren’t there classes offered where models pose nude? I think that this woman does have some type of interest in the OP and it isn’t strictly professional. And great post Jettison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Advice Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Annie He could have features and a body she thinks would be good practice drawing. Everyone has unique features and he has experience in this field. So long as she keeps the situation platonic and asks his parents, there should be no problem. What harm could come to him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annie24 Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 i'm sure that the OP is an attractive guy, or has some features that would be interesting to draw. in that case, why can't he pose with clothing on? wouldn't that be acceptable as well? there's something about asking a minor to be nude that REALLY rubs me the wrong way. i can't imagine asking to see a minor nude. and i would freak out if someone asked my teenage nephews to pose nude i just don't think it's appropriate. (the poster is still 16 by the way, at least until next month). I think it can potentially mess up a 16 year old kid, depending on their maturity level, for an adult to show sexual interest in them, or take advantage of them. i don't know, the OP may be very mature for his age, but i think this woman is pretty creepy for asking a minor to pose nude. she should really know better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManAbout Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 If this was a man who had asked a girl to pose nude and the 16 year old girl had been posting this same question, some do gooder, probably even from this board would have called the cops on his ass by now. Anyway, I dont get the whole posting nude thing. Does she really want you to pose nude and that is it? Or is she doing it as a way to seduce you? If she is doing it to seduce you, and you are attracted to her, get all the posing nude charade out of the way and some how let her know you are attracted to her. Why mess around with posing nude and playing all these games. If it is legal where you are, I would say go for it. You have never had a girlfriend before, the sexual experience will do a great deal for your confidence. By her having you posing nude, she is getting herself into potential legal issues, which are really unnecessary if all she wants to do is get you naked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadedStar Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 You are a minor...she is overstepping the mark. What she is asking is highly inappropriate and I would suggest you tell your parents and keep far away from this woman. Do not allow her to sketch you period. Your friend is right...this woman should not be asking you this. I totally agree. I am not even sure it is legal for her to ask to draw you nude. She should be old enough to know better than to even ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadedStar Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Annie He could have features and a body she thinks would be good practice drawing. Everyone has unique features and he has experience in this field. So long as she keeps the situation platonic and asks his parents, there should be no problem. What harm could come to him? It is outright unethical. and disturbing. The OP is still a minor. Adults are not supposed to put minors into compromising positions, and i'd say asking him to pose nude is pretty compromising. Like someone said if this were a 16 year old girl saying a 35 year old man asked to sketch her nude someone would probably have already called the cops. Why is it somehow more appropriate that he is a guy and this person a female? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Advice Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Jaded if her behavior puts him at risk for harm in anyway, particularly if it was more than if he was doing it for someone his own age, then it is unethical. What is the risk? I'd be lying if I said a 35 yr old man sketching a 16 yr old girl wasn't a much more serious risk than this. I myself would never sketch a 17 yr old girl, unless it was in some sort of legal public studio and even then it would make me aprehensive. However this is a male who can't be raped by her who is probably not as emotionally vulnerable. If he has interesting features, she should want to draw them. If she also wants to see his penis, well okay, nothing wrong with that either so long as she doesn't act on any sexual urges which would break the law and get her in trouble. And realistically, say they did sleep together, I seriously doubt as a male with raging horomones at that age that he would be harmed by it if he was attracted to her. Double standards. Absolutely. But I am being realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanBiff Posted August 28, 2008 Author Share Posted August 28, 2008 OK, OK. I get it. Posing naked = bad. I'm not telling my parents because I think I can make my own decisions. I'm going to agree to pose in a jockstrap which means I'm not naked so I wont be putting my friend in trouble and plus it will keep my body under control if you get my meaning. I havent told her yet but thats my decision so no one has to worrty that I'll be moslested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Advice Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 Bryan if she wants sex and you decide to give it to her, I wonder what long term psychological harm it will cause? Ten bucks says it does the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annie24 Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Bryan if she wants sex and you decide to give it to her, I wonder what long term psychological harm it will cause? Ten bucks says it does the opposite. uh..... if he knocks her up, and she decides to keep the baby..... for starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Advice Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 uh..... if he knocks her up, and she decides to keep the baby..... for starters. annie--- Very true. But there is nothing that she, as an older woman, will do to him that is harmful, that casual sex with someone his own age couldn't also do. The argument is whether a much older woman should be expressing sexual desire for a 17 yr old, not whether he isn't taking a risk having sex with anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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