BryanBiff Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 This isnt probly the right forum but I didn't know where else to post this. I'm almost 17 and this older woman that I know asked me to pose for her for a life drawing, meaning nude. Many questions - this lady is someone who is like a friend of the family, shes known me forever, she is also an art teacher. She has sketched me before, like head and shoulders, etc. but she asked me to go further. We both like art and she's taken me to museums, etc. so I can see where she's coming from. But still, I'm rolling around in my head, like, does she like me in a physical way? (I actually like her quite a bit) Should I tell my parents? I told a female friend (a girl friend, not a girlfriend) and she was like no no way should you do this and implied that it was wrong somehow, which I dont agree with. I would like to do it for her, but its also embarrassing since I've known her for a long time, plus I don't know, um, how my body would react. I've posed for her with cloths on, but of course this is different. Any thoughts? Personally I think telling my parents would make me look like an infant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agent1607307371 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I think discussing it with your parents would actually be a good move. How much is she going to pay you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyaboutdogs Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 You are a minor...she is overstepping the mark. What she is asking is highly inappropriate and I would suggest you tell your parents and keep far away from this woman. Do not allow her to sketch you period. Your friend is right...this woman should not be asking you this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agent1607307371 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Sorry, missed the part about your age. She is way over the line. Tell your parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brycen_green Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 yeah.. that's kind of gross. i don't think that would be appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulletproof Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I do tons of figure drawing and it's really not that inappropriate to have a nude model. But if you are even slightly unsure of her intentions, then you shouldn't do it. I'm not sure what good telling your parents would do, unless this woman is making you uncomfortable in other ways, and you need them to intervene. Has she done anything that seemed questionable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocolates Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Well last night i watched Notes on a Scandal again, and well he was 15 (turning 16) and she ended up in jail. Being a teacher myself, this woman should know better than this. I guess depending on what country you are in , you might be legal age, but I wouldnt be caught dead doing what she is doing. You shouldnt pose for life drawing until you are 18. the other thing is, is that you like her, which brings up (pardon the pun) a whole other set of problems. You are 16 and you should tell your parents about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jettison Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I'll be the devil's advocate in this one and go against the grain. You're 17. You're attracted to this family friend that wants to paint you nude. I'm guessing that she knows this. I'm guessing that she likes you too. There's a double-standard here with your gender, and we all know it's true. There aren't a lot of 17 year old guys who are likely to be psychologically damaged somehow if they engage in some kind of sexual activity with an older woman. Some might say that you're not old enough to make that decision on your own. Laws in some areas agree while others don't. There is some gray here. If I were 17 and "hot for teacher"? I'm not giving you this advice whatsoever, but I likely would have posed for the woman. That's just me. If anything, it's one of those interesting stories that you'd keep with you forever. But, like you mention, especially at 17, I wouldn't have felt like I had the control not to, erah, "show off" so to speak while posing. Of all the people naysaying this idea, I bet the majority of them would be quick to throw down 11 bucks for the period piece movie that depicts the madly-in-love artist attempting to paint the hot 17 year old prince in the buff. So, in summation, this won't be a popular opinion at all, but I think it's fair for you to make your own decision here. Continue to weigh the pros and cons, and then make an informed decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBladeRoden Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Tell her she can sketch you nude, but she has to be nude while she's doing it. Gotta have that sense of equilibrium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnslp Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I am just going to say that despite what the pros and cons to this situation are emotionally, that legally, this is dicey ground. And if she is a family friend, and you do this, and your family finds out, well I would bet she wouldn't be a friend much longer. Lots of potential drama in this situation. Just consider everything before you decide. And having said that, I would have to give you my personal advice-talk to your parents first. You just don't need this kind of crap that would likely occur if you agreed to this without their consent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanBiff Posted August 21, 2008 Author Share Posted August 21, 2008 I think discussing it with your parents would actually be a good move. How much is she going to pay you? We didn't discuss getting paid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanBiff Posted August 21, 2008 Author Share Posted August 21, 2008 Has she done anything that seemed questionable? No, she's been a good friend actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartGoesOn Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 If she truly is an "Art teacher", she knows very well that it's illegal to ask that of a minor. She sounds like a "pedophile" to me, if this were a man, I'm sure there would be no question, as far as reporting this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulletproof Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 If she truly is an "Art teacher", she knows very well that it's illegal to ask that of a minor. She sounds like a "pedophile" to me, if this were a man, I'm sure there would be no question, as far as reporting this! Don't you think that's a bit extreme? She hasn't done anything. To say someone sounds like a pedophile based on a proposition to pose nude for art is a bit out of hand. Jettison, I agree with your post. Nice one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jettison Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 If she truly is an "Art teacher", she knows very well that it's illegal to ask that of a minor. She sounds like a "pedophile" to me, if this were a man, I'm sure there would be no question, as far as reporting this! As has been brought up many, many times on these boards, she does not fit the description of a pedophile.... not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanBiff Posted August 21, 2008 Author Share Posted August 21, 2008 I'm guessing that she likes you too. So you're saying that she's into me sexually. We've shared this whole art thing, so I didn't really think that, well yes, I guess the thought crossed my mind.. but that would be very shady and she's not that way. I guess I'm confused. I will admit that being asked is a boost, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartGoesOn Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 As has been brought up many, many times on these boards, she does not fit the description of a pedophile.... not even close. Maybe I was a bit extreme about labeling her a "pedophile." But, doesn't anyone else find it strange that she's a friend of the family, yet has not approached his parents, knowing that he is a minor? What are her intentions here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agent1607307371 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 We didn't discuss getting paid generally people who do nude modelling get paid very well for it. The fact that she hasn't brought this up to your parents while you are 16 says to me that she knows she is on dicey ground and that your parents will not be ok with it. This is the kind of thing that she would need your parents agreement on (as you are under 18) and she could get into a world of trouble for not getting it. There was an Australian artist recently who did a series of portraits of teenagers nude and while it wasn't shown until they were all 21 with all the legalities covered, it still got him into a dicey place. Anything to do with kids and nakedness is automatically viewed as paedophilic, so even though she probably isn't one, she would automatically be seen as one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jettison Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 The distinction is between a pedophile and a sex offender. Pedophile = pre pubescent. That's obviously not what we're talking about here. And a sex offender is simply someone that has committed what's considered a sex crime, and that is determined by state or federal law. In this case, we have neither a sex offender nor a pedophile. What we have is a woman who is perhaps acting inappropriately. That's all we have right now. Should she have sex with a 17 year old, and it's illegal in this "boy's" state or country, then she will be a sex offender and could be prosecuted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emernate Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Nude art is nothing new as it's been around for over 2000 years. It's been done of all for all ages for all genders. Today, drawing a live nude model is pretty much required in any art college. I'm sure the only people who find this shocking or scandelous are those who don't have any experience in the art world. If you don't want to pose nude.. dont' do it. There is nothing wrong about being uncomfortable about it. If it was wrong of her to ask, I don't think so. I think in her mind she was just trying to expose you to different types of art since you share an interest in it. Sorry.. no pun intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanBiff Posted August 22, 2008 Author Share Posted August 22, 2008 generally people who do nude modelling get paid very well for it. The fact that she hasn't brought this up to your parents while you are 16 says to me that she knows she is on dicey ground and that your parents will not be ok with it. This is the kind of thing that she would need your parents agreement on (as you are under 18) and she could get into a world of trouble for not getting it. There was an Australian artist recently who did a series of portraits of teenagers nude and while it wasn't shown until they were all 21 with all the legalities covered, it still got him into a dicey place. Anything to do with kids and nakedness is automatically viewed as paedophilic, so even though she probably isn't one, she would automatically be seen as one. OK, well I dont want her to get in trouble for this, it would be stupid. But to run off and tell my parents when she asked me is pretty much like saying I'm a baby and can't make a decision. Yes, its doubftul my parents would approve. I dont think they fullyunderstand why were friends to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annie24 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 You are a minor...she is overstepping the mark. What she is asking is highly inappropriate and I would suggest you tell your parents and keep far away from this woman. Do not allow her to sketch you period. Your friend is right...this woman should not be asking you this. yes, i agree, you are a minor, she should not be asking this. she should know better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annie24 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 The distinction is between a pedophile and a sex offender. Pedophile = pre pubescent. That's obviously not what we're talking about here. And a sex offender is simply someone that has committed what's considered a sex crime, and that is determined by state or federal law. In this case, we have neither a sex offender nor a pedophile. What we have is a woman who is perhaps acting inappropriately. That's all we have right now. Should she have sex with a 17 year old, and it's illegal in this "boy's" state or country, then she will be a sex offender and could be prosecuted. i think it's bordering dangerously close on kiddie porn. not that he is a kid, just a few months from being an adult... but, being in possession of nude photos of minors is against the law, so i'm sure that doing a nude drawing of a 17 year old like that is bordering closely on that. and yes, when you do become a nude model, when you are an adult, the people i know got paid $15 an hour posing for art classes. i think you should wait until you are 18, if you choose to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyaboutdogs Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 OK, well I dont want her to get in trouble for this, it would be stupid. But to run off and tell my parents when she asked me is pretty much like saying I'm a baby and can't make a decision. Yes, its doubftul my parents would approve. I dont think they fullyunderstand why were friends to begin with. No it has nothing to do with you being a baby...it has to do with her asking a minor to strip naked in front of her and stay naked for the several hours it takes her to sketch the naked body of a 17 year old. It is very telling that you mentioned your parents not understanding the friendship you have with this woman...and you say you doubt if your parents would approve. If you really want to pose naked for her then I would suggest you wait another year until you turn 18...if she can't wait until you are 18 to sketch you nude then something more is going on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaloDestroyer Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Dude... You had to ASK? I'd have been straight in there. I notice the majority of the 'Against' party are of the female persuasion? ...Ha! If you like her, go ahead. Don't expect anything though. If you put the moves on her, and she just wants to draw you, you're gonna look stupid. Just let things unfold as Fate intended. Hope this helps. Ben. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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