Imprecision Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 NOTE: As several posters, including Le Dhuy Nhut and Rising, have pointed out - I'm not posting here for advice. I'm posting for fun. But some people message me saying that my posts are interesting. If a few people enjoy my posts, then I'm happy. I hope that even if you disagree with my posts, you find them interesting. Content Social Proofing Group Theory Why you should social proof with alpha males rather than beta males Social Proofing Social proofing is a pick-up concept. Let's say you enter a bar. You sit alone in the corner drinking beer. Your perceived social value falls. This makes picking up women a lot harder. By contrast, if you talk to everyone in the bar, including both friends and strangers, then your social value rises, because people see that you're having fun. You can also social-proof yourself by bringing female friends, because women will think, "Other women approve of this guy. He must be all right." Group Theory Most pick-up artists say that it's easier to pick women up in groups. My experience verifies this. In a mixed group of guys and girls, you should approach the guys first. In a group of girls, you should approach the dominant female first. This leads to my thesis below. Why you should social proof with alpha males rather than beta males A while ago, I hosted a party. I wanted to invite people from my university courses, some of whom I did not know well. Because I didn't know the people well, I made an effort to network before the party. In particular, there was a group of guys who sat in the corner of one of my classes. I wanted them to attend my party. There were five guys in that group. I made friends with four of them. Two of them were strongly supportive of my party plan. Two of them were on the fence. Right before I announced my party to the class, I approached their table to confirm their support for my party. Unexpectedly, when I spoke with the last guy - the guy I haven't spoken with yet - he was ambivalent. His words were civil, but we both understood he would not attend. One of the other guys remained supportive. The other three withdrew their support. The party went ahead. I had fun. Unfortunately, none of the five guys showed up. I understood what I did wrong. I tried to social proof my party with beta males. I should have talked with the last guy - the alpha male - first. If he accepted my invitation, then the remaining four guys would have accept, too. To succeed socially, you must first gain the respect of the alpha males. Don't lead. Don't follow. Simply establish mutual respect. When you and other alpha males respect each other, then all else follows. Indeed, to conspire with beta males without the approval of alpha males of the same group is bad form. It is a threat. Alpha males often feel insecure like everyone else. You'll provoke hostility if you infringe on their territory without their permission. Dating and pick-up concepts are far more versatile than people imagine. The above is also why during pick-ups, the friend of the girl obstructs your advances. Her group is threatened. You should have identified the dominant female and approached her first. If she approves of you, then the whole group will approve of you. If you pay attention, you'll see the many hidden rules of social interactions. Link to comment
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