lukeb Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 well with the way we are going we'll soon be natually selected not to make loads of babies because we are killing the planet with overpopulation. Link to comment
chiefoptimizer Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 well with the way we are going we'll soon be natually selected not to make loads of babies because we are killing the planet with overpopulation. actually, I like the Matrix's way of describing humans - we are like virusses! we spread for the sake of spreading and destroy the host (earth), lol... but no, natural selection, sadly, is blind, so it can't solve overpopulation...keep our fingers crossed for commercial nuclear fusion power generation and robotic mining of the asteroid belt for resources, otherwise I don't know how this is gonna end, but "I have a bad feeling about this". Link to comment
unabashed Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 natural selection. if you don't make loads of babies, your genes won't survive. life is about propagating genes. thereforee genes that don't help your body to make copies of itself and the genes won't be very successful. Lots of homosexuals over the eons have parented children, either in heterosexual unions or otherwise. I'm pretty sure that research shows that gay parents are not more likely to raise gay children than parents in the general population. So, we seem to being doing our share to populate the planet (or overpopulate, depending on your view). The desire to procreate doesn't seem affected by the desire to partner with someone of the same sex. Link to comment
lukeb Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Probably right, and really it doesnt explain the cause of heterosexuality anymore than it does to explain the cause of homosexuality. Link to comment
xioking39 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 My theory of why there is homosexuality is simply because God got bored. The love stories between heterosexuals fell into a boring non-private thing, and it became less entertaining to observe. Too many people became * * * * s and whores (guys too) that love had lost a lot of dignity. He created homosexuals to bring the secrecy and the risk back. Many homosexuals aren't afraid to love someone for who they are, and are less likely to say they love someone just for sex, so it's more of a story line for God to watch. Like a movie...lol. sorry, my theory is kind of out there...lol. lol i like your theory.it makes sense in a way but doesnt but seems to work..... Being gay is about just loving sumone of the same gender..and its that one special person ..that makes you wanna forget people of the opp sex..the one person who you feel makes you feel worth..I guess some people find such people then they turn gay..coz nothnig else makes you feel on top of the world! sooooo true. thats what did it for me. i found this one guy and well i do feel on top of the world and like life couldnt get any better. unless there are two of him Link to comment
chiefoptimizer Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 sooooo true. thats what did it for me. i found this one guy and well i do feel on top of the world and like life couldnt get any better. unless there are two of him whats this here? a threesome??!! Link to comment
StretchGee Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 That is really the answer. Trying to figure out what causes homosexuality to exist would be the same thing as trying to figure out what causes heterosexuality. Has anyone ever tried to do a study on what exactly causes heterosexuality? From a scientific point of view it is an equally valid question. Given that we are physically heterosexual the question, while equally valid from a behavioral viewpoint, certainly will have a different answer. And there are gobs of studies on human sexuality with their focus primarily on hetero relationships. Link to comment
lukeb Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Given that we are physically heterosexual the question, while equally valid from a behavioral viewpoint, certainly will have a different answer. I know this is kind of a different way of looking at it, but really the question on what causes homosexuality is really borne out of the believe that is unnatural. Something went wrong in the "normal" course of development. If it was seen as something natural we wouldnt be asking ourselves this question. Like I said before, no one asks: what causes heterosexuality. Many gays also kind of like the idea that we are different, the whole qu**r culture is the celebration of these differences. Link to comment
StretchGee Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I know this is kind of a different way of looking at it, but really the question on what causes homosexuality is really borne out of the believe that is unnatural. Something went wrong in the "normal" course of development. If it was seen as something natural we wouldnt be asking ourselves this question. Like I said before, no one asks: what causes heterosexuality. Many gays also kind of like the idea that we are different, the whole qu**r culture is the celebration of these differences. "unnatural" is a loaded word, however. For some it may be a projection of their own feelings onto the topic. Many people study sexual attraction for many reasons. Be careful that when you look at these motives as being a study of "something gone wrong" that you are not projecting your own thoughts onto the otherwise good intentions of others. The OP posited a theory without judgment. If you read this theory and hear judgment it is likely coming from your own psyche. Personally I'll stick with unabashed 'theory' that there are multiple causes for the difference in sexual attraction and I also feel these differences extend to both hetero and homosexuals. I'm more of an equal opportunity person myself, so I lean more towards accepting differences than celebrating differences. I'm more a uniter than a divider. Link to comment
unabashed Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I know this is kind of a different way of looking at it, but really the question on what causes homosexuality is really borne out of the believe that is unnatural. Something went wrong in the "normal" course of development. If it was seen as something natural we wouldnt be asking ourselves this question. Like I said before, no one asks: what causes heterosexuality. Many gays also kind of like the idea that we are different, the whole qu**r culture is the celebration of these differences. I think this is an articulate way of expressing what I was trying to convey earlier in the thread. There is an underlying assumption of deviance which, to many, means abnormal. A deviation is an aberration of the norm--what is most common. So..."normal" as a word doesn't have to be loaded, but, of course, it is! Speaking just for myself, and acknowledging that my psyche is my responsibility...I still find that the propensity to discuss something as an academic or intellectual exercise rather invalidates the reality that something like this is very personal to the experiences of individuals. I feel like raising my hand and shouting, "Hey, over here! I'm one of those people you're theorizing about." Truthfully, that feels kind of weird. My psyche--I own it. But, I'm just being honest. Link to comment
xioking39 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 whats this here? a threesome??!! hahahaha i wish Link to comment
StretchGee Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 A competing theory from Physcology Today at link removed While this article seems to avoid the usual megalomania that goes with theories on male sexual preference, there are a few gems...the author seems to imply gay men are the "kind of men" women want... ""There is no all-inclusive explanation for the variation in sexual orientation, at least none supported by actual evidence," says geneticist Alan Sanders of Northwestern University. It's one of the most consistent themes to emerge from the literature on homosexuality: the idea that there are many different mechanisms, not a single one, for producing homosexuality." I love theories that are "not supported by actual evidence"...we usually call that gossip! Link to comment
StretchGee Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 ^^^^ And if male sexuality is complicated, forget about figuring out women: "The biggest gap in the science of homosexuality concerns lesbians: Much less research has been done on them than on men. That's because women's sexuality seems to be more complicated and fluid—women are much more likely to report fantasizing about both sexes, or to change how they report their sexual orientation over time—which makes it harder to study." Link to comment
mattysfun Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 ummm it is genetic. sadly its been proved. hate to kill your thoughts it isnt there. and also. seeing how we can now procreate without hetro sex whats gonna happen? we have the "turkey baster" method now. my god. our the gays going to take over? Link to comment
chiefoptimizer Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 ummm it is genetic. sadly its been proved. hate to kill your thoughts it isnt there. and also. seeing how we can now procreate without hetro sex whats gonna happen? we have the "turkey baster" method now. my god. our the gays going to take over? not so. not yet. the closest we've got is that whatever decides whether a child will grow up straight or gay is set in the brain very early in life, possibly even before birth. no genetic link has yet been established. Link to comment
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