joe45 Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 me and my guy friends was talking to these chinese girls and 2 of them said this, like why would she date a guy with lower education(they have a 4 yr univ degree)-they were talking how they wanted to date a doctor, lawyer and be rich and how he can buy her this and that and take her travelling , doesn't own a car-she ain't busing-its like low class and eww yuck "(with the high class remark), a guy who makes less money , has to own his own place -proably a big house is what they want too . tehy told me that ya why should they have to date or even marry a guy with the so called lower status or lower educated crteria. pretty much they want a doctor, driving a sl mercedes, owns a mansion, and spoils her with whatever she wants. they also had and made a big remark on education and what univ and studying what major...etc she also told me how one of her other friends lived with her ex bf, they broke up and now the apartment he used to ownis now hers, and another one said how her friend's bf is paying the mortgage on her house. do u actually believe this stuff. i doubt it unless the ex, and bf are total dumbos. we are also asian too. is this like a cultural kind of thing. status of how much you make, yur level of education(higher the better), lol Link to comment
Batya33 Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Be careful about generalizing about millions of people from a particular race or culture based on this one conversation. These people sound awful and if anything, feel sorry for them that they are chasing after such shallow dreams and have such shallow goals. They probably feel deep down that without those things in their life their lives won't have much meaning. And that is sad. Link to comment
ghost69 Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 they sounds lazy. like the man has to take care of them and all they gotta do is dress nice and look presentable. pffft, they'd get burned by me quickly. Link to comment
DropToZero Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Yeah like Batya33 said...I'd be careful about generalizing, but...if that IS the kinds of ideas those girls were talking about, they have a rude awakening. I highly doubt they've dated all that much, and if they continue that way...all they're going to learn, is having money, doesn't solve anything. I know a few girls around me who claim they only date "rich/high education" guys...and as far as I can tell they're the loneliest ones I know because you can't build a relationship on your S/O's money or his brain... those will be the quickest disasters I've seen. Actually, I'm going to post a link, it's from a page I came accross one night...but it does have relevance to this post, so please...take a second and read it. You'll laugh... link removed it's the blog page of an artist I like, it's an article from craigslist... Link to comment
rose2summer Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 There are gold diggers in every race, And what will happen to them is the day they start aging and get wrinkly, mr. sugar daddy will move onto the next "top model" They live in a fallacy, why even believe what they say, and no sane guy is going to give away an apt, pay a mortgage on a house, and not be married, it's a bunch of wishy washiness. pretty much they want a doctor, driving a sl mercedes, owns a mansion Tell them forget the dr. and go for bill gates instead, dream dream dream on, they are just making up a bunch of stuff to see all glam. Hugs, Rose Link to comment
Clementine orange Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 There's only a certain number of doctors/lawyers etc to go around. My theory is that some women say they want this and/or are holding out for this because they aren't even getting asked out by "regular" people. This way it draws attention away from the fact that THEY aren't that much of a catch themselves. When someone says this to me, my response is to laugh (either out loud or to myself depending on the situation) Race has nothing to do with this phenomenum in my opinion. Link to comment
m12988 Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 And what will happen to them is the day they start aging and get wrinkly, mr. sugar daddy will move onto the next "top model" Thats where they will get the rude awakening :splat: They don't think of that do they? Those are some stupid, stupid stupid girls and stay away from such stupidity. Those are definitely some stuck up gold diggers and trash. Link to comment
rs.dallaire Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 There are gold diggers in every race indeed. However, I know that social status is fairly important to a lot of Chinese females. They won't limit themselves to doctors and lawyers but if you have no education and a * * * * job (or not job at all), chances are you won't be their type. In post modern societies, money isn't much of an issue. However, for Chinese women, money and social status is definitely in the top 2. Is there anything wrong with that? Not at all. Does it apply to everyone? Not necessarily. But stereotypes exist for a reason... Link to comment
m12988 Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 There are gold diggers in every race indeed. However, I know that social status is fairly important to a lot of Chinese females. They won't limit themselves to doctors and lawyers but if you have no education and a * * * * job (or not job at all), chances are you won't be their type. In post modern societies, money isn't much of an issue. However, for Chinese women, money and social status is definitely in the top 2. Is there anything wrong with that? Not at all. Does it apply to everyone? Not necessarily. But stereotypes exist for a reason... True, my fiance is asian and he admits to a lot of his family acting in that way. His cousin actually dumped a nice man for a loser that she "fell in love with" but he just happens to be a good moneymaker. She may be happy now but i can't wait to see what happens in a few years. Of course, only some chinese people are like this, not all. Not being racist or anything, but its their culture. Link to comment
rs.dallaire Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Not all women who are looking for an educated partner have divorce and spousal support in mind. In fact, most of them don't. There's nothing wrong with aiming for a partner who will actually be able to support a family. The same principle goes for women who aim for broke guys who are obviously players and try to convert them to being reliable family men. Now that's silly. Link to comment
rose2summer Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Not all women who are looking for an educated partner have divorce and spousal support in mind. In fact, most of them don't. There's nothing wrong with aiming for a partner who will actually be able to support a family. The same principle goes for women who aim for broke guys who are obviously players and try to convert them to being reliable family men. Now that's silly. I completely agree that's why I wrote some. There's going to be both extremes in every situation and there's going to be neutrals. Link to comment
rs.dallaire Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 People in the Western world tend to view money as this useless concept. Money is not important as long as you're happy, right? People will also isolate one variable and go nuts about it. It's more complicated than that. Link to comment
rose2summer Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Well, I think people from every country will view money as being important in that we need the necessary food, roof over our head, and a shower. Beyond that, it depends on the individual. Greed then can surface in how much we want, so yes money is important, but like everything in life, there are multifactorial characteristics that interplay, you are not pinpointing one cause. So maybe prestige and money, elitism are all important, and not just the money, who knows. Link to comment
handsdown Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Well my partner is a lawyer but I certainly didn't go out 'hunting' for one that's for sure!! I think girls like the ones you mentioned are basically glorified whores. They provide the body, the man provides the money. These are the same types of women who use sex as an object to be given and taken away depending on their man's 'behavior'. It's disgusting! I have nothing against education, I like a man who is intelligent and displays the ability to finish things he started. I would never again date a guy with no path in life and a dead-end job (been there done that) They don't have to be rich, but they have to have passion and drive. That's just what I like. I expect the relationship to be equal so I will always work just as hard, I have my own career and my own paths to follow and I like guys who support that. Most men who have no direction in life try to tie women down because they are so insecure. (been there done that) So, I ended up with a lawyer. I want to bring to attention that you shouldn't generalize either. I get that ALL the time, people assume I'm just a pretty face because my partner is a lawyer. Well, I'm not and attitudes like that are completely false. MOST women with successful men are just as, if not MORE successful. Why? because success attracts success, both ways, and most men who are successful like/want women who are also successful. Unless they just want a live-in whores, and in that case, they'll go looking for those girls you talked about. Believe me the lawyers I know who just want live-in whores are not loving, honest or affectionate guys, I wouldn't touch them with a ten-foot pole! It's all about respect, do those girls think that they would be respected by a man if they are only with him for money. I don't think so, because they aren't worthy of respect, they are losers who couldn't hold their own in a crowd of intelligent, truly successful people. Link to comment
KAT MOMMY Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 A GoldDigger is one of those females that you see with all the fancy things-usually counterfeit-most of them are the ones that you can say that are star watching, someone looking for a easy come-up to the top that thinks their looks, and/or education will get them there. But the sad part is that they are dependent upon other people's success to elevate theirs. They are usually the type that are not used to having nice things and they want to leach off a man or men to be able to "eat". Hard work pays off and in order for you to get ahead you have to strive harder. there is nothing wrong with wanting to have the finer things in life or wanting to deal with established men-fine but at the end of the day you must be in a position to play with the heavyhitters. Sex is what's for sale and sex surely sells. I been there and done that and the only thing it is worth is you losing your self-worth, earning a foul rep and literally hitting rock bottom. What goes up comes back down! and everything that glitters isn't gold. They have sold their souls to the Devil and will pay any cost to stay down! Stuck up broads are the ones you see driving THEIR Benzs and wearing the Cavalli pumps. Got the authentic Gucci bags with diamonds on their wrist. I feel as if others talk behind my back calling me stuck up and I've lost a lot oof friends-so called friends-on the same note. The ones that have worked and have education and their is a certain aura about them-they have worked too hard to lose it all behind a LOSER. There is nothing wrong with being "stuck up" it gets you farther in life and it puts you in the elite crowd of people. Not that it means you're better then the next female but after you've upscaled yourself and only a fool would retreat back to the "low" lifestyle and those who have yet to get to their level. Surround yourself amongst the people in which you would like to be like and you will get their faster. I don't think that it's fair to stero type this behavior to a certain race because it's all accross the world/just other people in other places go about it in another way. I feel like RESPECT is the major. If you respect yourself as a woman there are things that you as a woman know that it's not acceptable and there are things that are acceptable. INDEPENDENT WOMEN RULE!!!! and that's the bottom line. Big Up to all the women that are on their GROWN & SEXY status-yes honey yes!!!!!!!! Link to comment
pinkelephant Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 it is Asian stereotype to expect a man to be as successful or more successful than the woman. it's expected that a man help the woman in financially or whatever, but not to that extent. those girls are stupid and probably have really stupid boyfriends (sucks but true). though, my mom has a friend who is a total gold digger/men user. she stopped dating a man because he won't take care of her (financially) she uses men like nothing else. she pays for nothing. they take her grocery shopping, they pay. they take her anywhere, they pay! however, she's smart and won't let them touch her at all. so, she's not really a * * * * * per se. she doesn't show it off though, only stupid girls would. she keeps it to herself that these men are stupid and continues to use them. sad, she's 40 and still doing this. she's probably really lonely too though. Link to comment
handsdown Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 sad, she's 40 and still doing this. she's probably really lonely too though. I bet she has a REALLY low opinion of herself as well Link to comment
Lana0120 Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 They're hardly representative of women. Link to comment
rs.dallaire Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Before we go on and start calling people names, please keep in mind the economic and cultural context in China. They are a few decades behind and a lot of women have low education and make a career out of being a housewife. Doesn't make them losers. Just a different context. Even when they move to beautiful America, it will take a couple of generations for things to really change. Do they have self esteem issues? Probably. But at least not half of married couples end up in divorce. Please curb your comments when talking about cultural differences as you just don't know how it is elsewhere in the world. Link to comment
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