Aaron20b Posted December 13, 2007 Posted December 13, 2007 I been meaning to ask this for quite some time now.... Say this girl really likes this other guy, would you have a chance with her? I mean, there not commented and there not boyfriend and girlfriend so it wouldn't be wrong at all to change her mind and go out with you instead. Of course, I know some of you may ask "well it depends how much she likes him and what the situation is" hmm...guess I'll have to come up with an example than. Say you knew her from your college. You talked to her a few times but she didn't seem all that interested. one can guess because she fancies that other guy. She keeps talking to her friends about how she is hoping the guy will ask her out and she keeps going on about how awesome he is and that she really wants to go out with him. And she says things like "omg how im I going to ask him out if he doesn't ask me out? omg I like him soo soo much" Alright, so..would the stranger have any chance with her? do you think she'd be willing to give another guy a chance if approached? help me out here
Censored Posted December 13, 2007 Posted December 13, 2007 Ken, Why oh WHY do you always choose the hardest road to travel? All of your threads revolve around attracting girls in either a totally inappropriate way, or trying to attract a girl that is unavailable to you. I just don't get it. The answer is NO, her thoughts are with someone else.
Aaron20b Posted December 13, 2007 Author Posted December 13, 2007 Ken, Why oh WHY do you always choose the hardest road to travel? All of your threads revolve around attracting girls in either a totally inappropriate way, or trying to attract a girl that is unavailable to you. I just don't get it. The answer is NO, her thoughts are with someone else. uhh but there not together??? 0_o
Ryssia Posted December 13, 2007 Posted December 13, 2007 She keeps talking to her friends about how she is hoping the guy will ask her out and she keeps going on about how awesome he is and that she really wants to go out with him. And she says things like "omg how im I going to ask him out if he doesn't ask me out? "omg I like him soo soo much" Alright, so..would the stranger have any chance with her? do you think she'd be willing to give another guy a chance if approached? help me out here They may not be together, but she's clearly got her heart set on this other guy. Don't think the stranger would have much of a chance.
stellastrawberry Posted December 13, 2007 Posted December 13, 2007 You do like uphill battles, don't you? No, I really don't think there is any chance whatsoever for you to win over a girl who is pining for another guy. Not to offend, but at this point in time, you still have a fairly limited understanding of societal norms of behavior and interaction, and I think its a little early to try the Don Juan and sweep an already besotted girl off her feet. Do not persue her. You want to know where the line you must cross is that makes you a creep? Its pursuing a girl interested in another guy. She will, I promise, think that you are a creep. Find another, unattached girl. And by unattached, I don't mean just not dating, I mean a girl who is not head over heals for someone else, and one who is already willing to talk to you.
Sweet Buttabean Jellayroll Posted December 13, 2007 Posted December 13, 2007 Why must you put yourself in a position where the odds are not in your favor why? and then you complain that you hate girls how about this find a girl who is single, and isent really looking then throw the charm on her...someday something in your mind is going to have to connect to reality and not this fantasy world you live in.
Pocket Rocket Posted December 13, 2007 Posted December 13, 2007 Ken, I have a question - if you took the chance and she rejected you, would you really be okay with that. think about the carefully, because if the answer is no then it's unhealthy for you to pursue this, you would also probably end up resenting her. Ken, looking at your previous posts I've never answered because I didn't feel I would have any great advice, but I have a feeling there are more issues going on in your life that you haven't dealt with, especially with your anger toward women. We get angry when we've been hurt - I think you need to work on that. Work on your own happiness before you pursue anyone else, you'll see then that the right person will come a along and you'll be ready.
NewPhillyGuy Posted December 13, 2007 Posted December 13, 2007 Ken, Why oh WHY do you always choose the hardest road to travel? All of your threads revolve around attracting girls in either a totally inappropriate way, or trying to attract a girl that is unavailable to you. I just don't get it. The answer is NO, her thoughts are with someone else. Why waste the energy? There are millions of other girls out there.
ghost69 Posted December 13, 2007 Posted December 13, 2007 you knowingly know she is interested in someone else. when you find this out, go the other way. especially if the woman told you she is. i seriously hope this isn't another girl on myspace.
Aaron20b Posted December 15, 2007 Author Posted December 15, 2007 Is this girl I know in real life and man, I want her so bad, but today....jesus, she likes this guy more than I thought, the guy doesn't even go to the same school as us too. He lives kinda far and I guess the guy is going to visit her or something, but she tells me stuff like "I listen to him sleep on the phone" " He means everything to me" The really screwed up thing is that the guy has a GIRLFRIEND but the guy is willing to come see her anyway and probably do things that go way beyond friendship...
Need_some_help Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 Ken, Make an appointment with a therapist, you need the help immediately. If a therapist is not available that fast, i suggest that you check yourself into the local mental ward of the hospital. I would also suggest that you look into a rehab facility. You just dont seem to comprehend life and that is trouble
Luke Skywalker Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 I've been thinking along with other posters on this thread, that you seem to be going after extremely difficult prospects, and yet, you are a newbie yourself that just wants to get his feet wet. I just want you to answer this question for yourself. Do you think that perhaps at a subconscious level you are afraid of success with relationships or girls and perhaps you are chasing prospects that's virtually guaranteed to fail. Because that's EXACTLY what's going on here. You will end up resenting her at the end of the day. It's not worth it.
Pocket Rocket Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 Ken, Make an appointment with a therapist, you need the help immediately. If a therapist is not available that fast, i suggest that you check yourself into the local mental ward of the hospital. I would also suggest that you look into a rehab facility. You just dont seem to comprehend life and that is trouble ... that's a bit harsh, no?
MushroomGod Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 I don't think its too harsh. This kid needs to learn to love himself before he can love another and it sounds like he has problems. Ken isn't happy with who he is and NO GIRL IS GOING TO LIKE HIM UNTIL HE LEARNS TO LIKE HIMSELF.
JadedStar Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 Counseling? Yes. Mental rehab center? Umm, I think that is putting the cart before the horse here......yes a bit harsh. Evilken is a novice at dating and reading girl's reactions. Counseling will help but i do not think he needs to go into a mental rehab clinic. Give the kid some kind of break here.
Pocket Rocket Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 Counseling will help but i do not think he needs to go into a mental rehab clinic. Give the kid some kind of break here. Yes that's what I thought was harsh
wiser Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 you knowingly know she is interested in someone else. when you find this out, go the other way. As compared to unknowingly not knowing? she tells me stuff like "I listen to him sleep on the phone" " He means everything to me" Forget it. If she is so into him that she listens to him sleep, it's even worse than a simple crush. It's obsession. I don't think its too harsh. This kid needs to learn to love himself before he can love another and it sounds like he has problems. He isn't going to learn to love himself in a mental ward. All he will do is figure out what the inkblots are supposed to be.
Need_some_help Posted December 16, 2007 Posted December 16, 2007 No, i do not believe that it was a bit harsh at all. The mental ward was for if he cannot find a therapist fast enough. Ken has illusions of adequecy and needs help. His beliefs that EVERY single girl that he interacts with is the problem, are an issue. He needs serious help that only a professional can give him. I would hate to see what kens next steps are if he doesnt get help. Remember the kids from columbine, they too had issues that went unresolved. Next thing you know, ken will be letting loose in a shopping mall near you. A mental ward is not a bad thing. it is not what is portrayed on television. He will get the help that he needs, just on a one on one basis, on a regular basis. Not if and when he feels like going, whereas if he goes to a therapist and doesnt like the fact that they are telling him (like we are) that he is the problem, he will just stop going. So with that said. i do not feel that it was too harsh, nor do i feel that i was being mean to ken by saying it. I just want him to get the help that he needs. Every day ken posts the same thing in a different terminology and everyday we give ken the same advice. He refuses to accept the help that we are giving him. Einstein once defined Insanity as "doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result" I feel that this fits that definition!!
JadedStar Posted December 16, 2007 Posted December 16, 2007 A mental ward is not a bad thing. it is not what is portrayed on television. Umm, I think i know what a mental ward is based on experience with family members - wish I hadn't...but I don't buy into hype. Evilken is very socially inept....they don't commit people for that. As a matter of fact putting someone into a "mental ward" is pretty dmn tough.... Mental institutions are for people who are going to harm themselves or others. Evilken might harm his dating stats but he is not in danger of shooting up the street...not from what i have read thus far.
boo121 Posted December 16, 2007 Posted December 16, 2007 Alright, so..would the stranger have any chance with her? do you think she'd be willing to give another guy a chance if approached? help me out here Why are you wasting your time? You have a classic case of one-itis with this woman. And you know that won't go down very well... If somebody else on this forum was asking this stuff instead of you, how would you reply back?
boo121 Posted December 16, 2007 Posted December 16, 2007 Ken, Make an appointment with a therapist, you need the help immediately. If a therapist is not available that fast, i suggest that you check yourself into the local mental ward of the hospital. I would also suggest that you look into a rehab facility. You just dont seem to comprehend life and that is trouble I don't think he needs to go into a mental ward lol. But yes this is a bad case of one-itis here, maybe some therapy could help you.
ghost69 Posted December 18, 2007 Posted December 18, 2007 Is this girl I know in real life and man, I want her so bad, but today....jesus, she likes this guy more than I thought, the guy doesn't even go to the same school as us too. He lives kinda far and I guess the guy is going to visit her or something, but she tells me stuff like "I listen to him sleep on the phone" " He means everything to me" The really screwed up thing is that the guy has a GIRLFRIEND but the guy is willing to come see her anyway and probably do things that go way beyond friendship... who cares what they do. that is her deal. don't get into this at all. she tells you how interested she is in someone else. key words 'SOMEONE ELSE'.
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