Experienced online advice

[boo121]

Just a quick question. How important is the advice given to you about dating and attraction on this forum?

 

What if there was advice available out there that could give you a leg up in the dating world from people who are experienced in this area? What if you were thinking (I really need a change in perspective on how i look at life in general and really want to see results) ? What if there was advice out there that could help you do that? Where you could ask questions about ur relationships / dating and have in depth- experienced answers from pros - who could really give you key advice when you need it.

 

Would you be willing to pay for this kind of advice given out online... or in an e-book?

 

Any feedback would be appreciated,

[melrich]

You'll always find people willing to pay for advice/services that they think would help them.

[ostego]

ebooks and similar things online have a bad reputation as generally being crap!

 

You should try and build up an experienced service, with good customer feedback if you're going to go about it the right way, and ensure your site gets a good reputation

[JeckyllNHyde]

Yea I agree. People are willing to pay for advice as long as it sets itself apart or is somehow guaranteed to work. It's all in the way it's presented to the people/clients I guess.

[boo121]

The intention here is to help people and give them a head start. And also miss out that step myself and others had to go through in order to get things right. And with that in mind, any advice, which people do not feel fully satisfied with, gets a money back guarantee.

 

e-books only get a bad reputation, if it has inconsistent content to what it is proposing. Like with any design product, if it promotes more than it is selling, it won't work.

[Dating Coach]

Interesting...

[servedcold]

The people who will pay for that are going to be more interested in the PUA angle I think, and that field is fairly saturated. Then you have folks like David D'Angelo and Doc Love selling more dating oriented advice.

 

But to answer your question, I'd have bought such products in my youth as the dating advice available to men then was awful.

[Dako]

Where you could ask questions about ur relationships / dating and have in depth- experienced answers from pros -

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I don't know how you become a professional at having relationships, but I'm an amateur in the original sense of the word. When I need advice I ask my friends.

[ghost69]

most of my friends ask me for advice. i rarely ask a friend what they think in my situations. but sometimes you need some external source.

 

i would never use an ebook or buy a PUA manual or anything.

 

what if someone just wants a general question asked with some great detail and examples? is this what you are asking here?

[boo121]

what if someone just wants a general question asked with some great detail and examples? is this what you are asking here?

 

Yes. The advice given back will help out the person in their situation. Along with coaching and other services...

 

I'll give you a great simple example... Getting over fears for approaching women, or asking them out, or taking things to an intimate level. This is stuff that can be re-progammed and u'll never feel the fear again. This can be done through the right exercises and techniques. Well the fear never goes away, but you can do things to push it away and make it less of a big deal. If you can get this handled, then job interviews, public speaking, presentations etc will come naturally to you, because you'll have a method for re-programming your brain. I This is 1 example, of many that can help people.

[ghost69]

oh i see now. sounds like a great idea.

 

i bet the anonymous part would play the biggest part for users/subscribers.

[Brightest Dark]

So, it sounds like you are contemplating using your advice to make money?

 

Personally I think my advice is great and everyone should take it. lol. That said, it's only one person's opinion and I don't know if that many people really have the 'power' to say 'this will work for you if you do it' and try to make money from their advice. I think you would have to really, really know what you are doing in order to do that. What if all the people who took your advice were unhappy with it because they didn't get the results they wanted after paying for advice? You'd have a lot of unhappy people. You may get people wanting their money back.

 

I personally would not pay for dating advice - especially when there is an awesome forum like this around (same way as I would never pay for a dating site to meet someone on). Anyone who did pay would probably have to be really desperate. Yeah, there are people out there, but should you really play on their unhappiness to make yourself a living? I guess it depends how greedy for money you are.

[boo121]

Anyone who did pay would probably have to be really desperate. Yeah, there are people out there, but should you really play on their unhappiness to make yourself a living? I guess it depends how greedy for money you are.

 

Well i signed up to an online dating site to increase my social circle where i live. Yes there are desperate people on there. I think online dating is fantastic. There are more great looking women online who are fun, intelligent living in your area right now, than you could possibly ever meet. If you don't believe that, try it out.

 

Well the advice here is by no means intended to work or solve some1's problems. No advice is intended to and can do that. I can't make things work for people, I can't make things work for them, nobody can. The only person who can is you. All that can be done in the best situation is to give people a leg-up. Share insights and concepts and ways of thinking that 99% of the population may not be aware of and as a result don't have the success they are looking for.

 

I can guarantee you that advice you get on a "free" forum is not even close to what you could learn elsewhere.

 

This website is good, but people who have paid to get this sort of dating advice in their life, know 10 / 20 times more than what is posted on here. Why? because it is free.

 

Obviously it is very easy to come from the perspective here of (I want to take your money for my advice) But like anything, or any product that is sold, If you don't like what ur hearing, then you shouldnt have to pay.

 

There is defiantly a service for it, and the objective isnt to grab money off people, it's to help out. Hence all of the above.

[galaxy71]

Your post is not only insulting to this forum as well as those who post on it, but it's completely wrong. The advice given by people here is based on past experiences, which are priceless, as well as by trained professionals that post on this site as well.

 

Forums provide for diversity of opinions, and while there is plenty of poor advice, there is an overwhelming amount of excellent advice as well.

 

In fact the ones you pay (therapists, social workers, etc) are sometimes more incompetant and screwed up than those they try to help. You don't always get what you pay for. But for those that think laying out the dough gives them something that they can't get for free, keep on spending.

 

I have to agree with him on this one. I like Enotalone. That is why I spend a lot of time here posting and reading posts. If I hated this forum, I wouldn't be here in the first place. However, every website has different strengths and weaknesses. I think this website is great for people in relationships or who want to be in relationships. I also think this website is great for people who want to vent or who are shy. But I think that there are websites that are better at teaching attraction, social skills, and confidence.

 

This is my opinion. It doesn't mean that I hate this website. Rather, I prefer Enotalone for advice on some matters, while I go to other websites for advice on another matters. There are a lot of guys who give quality advice in this forum who learned a lot about confidence, and flirting from websites other than this one. That doesn't mean they hate Enotalone. Rather, they prefer to use other websites as reference sources for certain subjects.

[Dako]

Time to plunge into the commerce of advice, boo121.

You have plenty of competition out there.

[boo121]

Time to plunge into the commerce of advice, boo121.

You have plenty of competition out there.

 

My frame of reference is to gain some feedback on this and thanks for that. This forum does give out free and fantastic advice.

 

I don't see it as competition and why should it be. What i like about this forum is it has lots of people with different skills and life experiences being able to help others out. And the reality is, paid advice will always carry more value... because people value things more for the stuff they have to work for.

[Brightest Dark]

There are more great looking women online who are fun, intelligent living in your area right now, than you could possibly ever meet. If you don't believe that, try it out.

 

Well, considering I AM a woman, I don't really want to meet other women, thanks! And I'm extremely picky, so even if I paid I wouldn't find a guy I liked. I get lots of male attention but I'm insanely picky. There *IS* a guy I like. He just lives far, far away. I'd rather stay single than even go on a date with someone I'm not head over heels with.

 

But anyway... why do you think your insights alone (as one individual) are better than enotalone which has many, many contributions? What qualifications do you have that will make people want to pay for your advice? You're going to have to sell it to them, so why not try selling it to us here now?

 

I've got nothing against people trying to start their own business. I wouldn't pay for it though.

 

I think most people here are after fellow opinions, and as many as possible, because they're slightly unsure of something - like whether such and such action means he likes you, or what to do next. A lot of the time it's not THAT important. We're interested in other people's opinions, but it's not the be-all and end-all. It's not like we can't cope if no-one replies. Well, maybe a few people might want more help, but I think a lot of us come here for casual friendly opinions. There probably ARE people who would pay for advice, there are people who pay for insanely stupid stuff, there are people with too much money in their banks, so I'm sure they wouldn't mind, but I personally wouldn't. I've actually gone from asking for people's opinion in my first ever post, to giving MY opinion in pretty much every other post since (and I think my advice is pretty decent - but even I wouldn't choose to start a business in this field). Maybe I will have to read back to see what advice you've given in various topics to see if I think people would get value for money if you did start up your own service.

[Brightest Dark]

And the reality is, paid advice will always carry more value... because people value things more for the stuff they have to work for.

 

I disagree with that. Some items can be very cheap and much, much better than expensive items.

[Brightest Dark]

I just did a quick thread search and I see YOU were asking US for advice earlier! So you're going to start a paid business offering advice - yet you're here asking Enotalone for advice?! Riiiiight! I think that's a red light straight away!

 

OK... a quick question for the women on this forum...

 

What kinds of things do you look for when a guy approaches you in a bar/club situation? What makes you think (ah heres a kool guy... i'll see what he's gotta say!)

 

And if you like... what particularly puts you off? And what could guys do, to improve their chances when they first approach you?

 

I ask this because im intrigued and want to improve what i do, and help other guys out too.

 

thanks, lets get some good responses here...

[boo121]

Well, considering I AM a woman, I don't really want to meet other women, thanks!

 

Well you never know, have you ever had sex with a women before? You should try it it's fun!!

 

I'm not on here to convince you that my idea is right, I don't need to, just to save you the bother of typing out again.

[boo121]

I just did a quick thread search and I see YOU were asking US for advice earlier! So you're going to start a paid business offering advice - yet you're here asking Enotalone for advice?! Riiiiight! I think that's a red light straight away!

 

aww you went to all that searching just for me! Well thanks, really too kind

[Brightest Dark]

aww you went to all that searching just for me! Well thanks, really too kind

 

I didn't do much searching, just clicked on your profile and 'last threads posted by...'. It took like 1 minute if that!

[ghost69]

i think it was advice on starting a paid service. not asking you to help boo get dates or talk about a SO problem.