breakupmoveon Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 Ok calculating.....Hope tantalus can chime in... 6 billion people, 3 billion females. So there are 3 billion females roughly. OKAY! About 300 million people live in USA, so about 5% of the world's population. thereforeeee there are about 150 million girls in the USA. I only use the USA because it is practical. Now of these 150 million ladies, if we divide up these women into AGE BRACKETS in multiples of 8 years (I would date a woman between the ages of 21-29 ideally.) There will be about 10 age brackets, and thus ROUGHLY 15 million ladies in MY age bracket. I will go out on a limb and say about 25% of these females in MY AGE BRACKET smoke, and I refuse to date a smoker, so that leaves about 11 million now. Now I will start to get very practical..... I live in NE Ohio. In my quadrant of Ohio, I spend about 99% of my existence, so thereforeeee we can assume I will most likely only find a woman in this area. thereforeeee, within a 40 mile radius of myself, less than 1% (only 1/3 of 1%) of available females who DONT SMOKE and ARE IN MY AGE BRACKET are here. After number crunching, that comes out to about 40,000 females. Now out of these females, I would presume 80% (we will continue onto the next point), are currently tied up in a relationship. thereforeeee that leaves about 5000 females total. Now with my previous point, I would say I would only be attracted to 10% of these females that are available, thus leaving me with 500. So there are 500 females in my age bracket, do not smoke, are attractive in my eyes, and are in my practical vicinity. Now of these females, I can continue to eliminate.... I do not want children. I would venture to say only 10% (on a good day) of females DO NOT want children, thereforeeee bringing my total down to 50. Of these 50, I only want to date a christian, it is very important to me to grow with God with my significant other. Statisically speaking, for this age bracket, and for females,...I would estimate 50% on a good day would be Christian by my standards. I am down to 25 women now. Of these women, I do not want to date a bimbo, I want to date someone who can challenge me intellectually, who is definitly NOT high maintenence, is the girl-next-door type, who likes the outdoors, would be up for offroading, shooting guns, drinking a beer, bowling, etc. Of these 25, I would venture to say only 5 of them would match that description. 5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have gone from 3 BILLION to 5 like nothing!!! Of these 5, WHAT ARE THE CHANCES I WILL EVEN MEET THIS PERSON, TALK TO THEM, THEY FIND ME ATTRACTIVE, AND WE JUST CLICK. I forgot though, they would obviously have to find attraction in me too. I am a bit of a outdoorsy looking guy, scruffy, longish hair. Probably 1 or 2 of these women would find ME attractive at first sight and be willing to progress into talking and eventually something substantial. I reiterate....What are the chances I will "bump" into the 1 or 2 ladies of my dreams? I could be at one bar, they could be sitting at home watching a movie. I could be pumping gas, they could be driving past me but I would never know. Not only that, but I am not a go-getter. All 3 of my ex'gf's have pursued me. I can change that however! You catch my drift. I can continue if you guys want....
Idocsteve Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 Give up on God and you can double your odds. Works for me.
ghost69 Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 calculations are great. stop limiting yourself to non-smokers. anybody can quit. wouldn't that make that one smoker girl you know much more attractive? i think you are having a nervous breakdown. anyways, you put too much pressure on yourself to meet mrs perfect 'right now'. doesn't work so easily. i always think i'm never going to meet a great girl. i get proven wrong just about everyday. well, i'm not single now, but it just hits me out of nowhere. there are plenty of women out there. for every guy.
spirits Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 geez, that must suck for you Looks like you may have to settle for a man
bulletproof Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 Statements like "I presume", "I would estimate", "I would venture to say", are not statements that imply any of this is fact. Your logic is extremely skewed, to say the least. These numbers are not facts. And to assume that you will only fall in love with a non-smoker, attractive, girl who likes to shoot guns, doesn't want children, lives in NE Ohio area, and so on, and so on, is a GIANT assumption. You might meet someone who defies all of those things but the heart wants what the heart wants. Sometimes you just fall in love with a person you wouldn't have imagined falling in love with.
Clementine orange Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 Somewhere in Ohio there is a girl doing the same calculations as you just did and is very despondent. Find her. Oh yeah, you also forget to subtract lesbians from the pool
breakupmoveon Posted October 2, 2007 Author Posted October 2, 2007 My elimition for smoking only got rid of 1/4 of the women. It wasn't that substantial. I reiterate, from the moment I see a woman light up a cigarette, she loses all attraciveness. I wouldn't even get my foot in the door if I were to see this, or even if I DID talk to her before she smoked, eventually after talking to her for a while (few minutes to a few hours) she would pull out a pack of smokes. I would be done after that.
agent1607307371 Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 You forgot to subtract all the women who aren't attracted to you.
Idocsteve Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 You forgot to subtract out women with incurable STDs including AIDS and Herpes. I presume they too would be eliminated from your pool of prospective applicants.
breakupmoveon Posted October 2, 2007 Author Posted October 2, 2007 I wouldn't be able to fall in love with a smoker. I am already immediatley turned off, so falling in love wouldn't be an option. And of my estimates, OF COURSE THEY ARE ESTIMATES, they are believeable estimates, I did not just pull a random number or percentage out of my butt. I used a bit of research and my own knowledge to get the numbers. And I already included a calulation for HER to find ME attractive as well. I can also continue into elimination, but since I am already down to 1 or 2, I figure I wouldn't.
breakupmoveon Posted October 2, 2007 Author Posted October 2, 2007 Do you guys know the reason I am writing all this. Let me tell you. I got dumped 6 weeks ago. My story is on here. Despite being pulled through hell and back with this girl, she matched all my descriptions. She was infatuated with me for 4 years, she is a Christian, she is attractive to me, she is healthy and fit, she is intellectual, she doesn't smoke, and she isn't high maintenence. I am finding it hard to take her off the pedestal even though she broke my heart and everyone here has told me I am much better off (again my story is on here if you need background.)
Idocsteve Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 she matched all my descriptions. She was infatuated with me for 4 years, she is a Christian, she is attractive to me, she is healthy and fit, she is intellectual, she doesn't smoke, and she isn't high maintenence. Sigh... Eliminate the heartbreakers from the list as well.
greenmonster Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 I want a pony....and some crayons....and a boat...and a new car...and I don't want to pay my mortgage...and I wish my student loans would go away...and I want to be able to travel through time...and I wanna be able to crap rainbows and piss sunshine. but I want the pony to be fully trained and brown with white spots...and I want the BIG box of crayons...and the boat has to be exactly 42 feet long...and the new car must be worth at least $50,000...I also want my insurance payments on my house to go away...and I want my student loans to pay me instead of me pay them...and I want to be able to go forwards AND backwards in time...and the rainbows have to have a pot of gold at the end of each one and the sunshine should also be a clean source of energy and tan me every time I pee... oh...my bad... this isn't the thread where we post our absolute demands we have on life and everything about it we "MUST" have in order to make our lives perfect, because anything less than 100% of what I MUST HAVE isn't acceptable in any way and therfor is benieth my benevolence? sigh...I'll keep looking I guess
shes2smart Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 Well, if you're a Christian, doesn't your faith negate the high odds? Really, I don't mean for that to be a flip remark or slam of your religion...I'm aware that it could be interpreted that way, but it's not my intent. All I'm trying to point out is that if you have this belief system that is important to you, then your faith in it needs to be strong enough to withstand the times you're tested. Like now. While I'm not religious, I do have a pretty strong spiritual belief system that's guided me through a lot of difficult times in the last 15 or 20 years. I also didn't manage to meet my spouse and get married until I was in my late 30's. There was a line I wrote in my journal with some frequency when I was in a similar mindset to yours....a reminder to myself that because I chose to believe there was something greater than us (God/Universe/Spirit/The Force/Higher Power/whatever you want to call him/her/it.), that meant I wasn't running the show on my own. That line was: In Thy Time, Not Mine. Had I met my husband any sooner than I did, I would not have been ready for this relationship. Had he met me any sooner than he did, he would not have been ready, either. In Thy Time, Not Mine. Because my vision is limited, and I cannot see the larger picture (even when I think I can)...but that power greater than myself can (God/Universe/Spirit/etc.)
shes2smart Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 Oh, yeah, greenmonster's last post reminded me of one other aspect... My husband did not come in the package I thought I wanted: he was divorced from a very young marriage, he lived 2 hours' drive away, and he's 11 years younger than me. But he is exactly who I needed to come into my life and be my spouse. Seems that force greater than us (God/Spirit/Universe/etc) that I choose to believe in had a better idea of what would be best for me than I did.
ghost69 Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 so you'd be upset with 43ft boat? but what if it had a gold anchor?
Clementine orange Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 Reminds of a graffiti I once saw Come the revolution we'll all be driving Rolls Royce and someone had written undernieth "what if we don't want to drive a Rolls Royce?"
DropToZero Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 While...reading your amazing statistical analysis, and yes I found it VERY intriguing...I may even show a few people cause...WOW. But anyways, you don't need a long drawn out answer...I think what you'll learn about relationships/dating if you stop calculating, and start working on finding that person, is that it has NOTHING TO DO WITH NUMBERS/STATISTICS. If people went around dating via statistics...this would be one very screwed up place.
Idocsteve Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 I'm sure the OP meant this thread as a joke. The numbers are not even close to being accurate.
ghost69 Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 I'm sure the OP meant this thread as a joke. The numbers are not even close to being accurate. i don't think it is a joke. read how serious this calculation and explanation is.
selkie Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 Hi Breakupmoveo, You are last my post on enotalone cause this site is sucking up my precious workaholic hours. Anyhoo, have you tried match dot com ? Have you tried online Christian dating sites ? I would suggest that the one thing you do is cast your net wider !
Idocsteve Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 i don't think it is a joke. read how serious this calculation and explanation is. He figured there are only 1 or 2 women in his entire "quadrant". If he's serious, and believes his own numbers, then his problems are far greater than the availablility of desirable women.
Red Fox Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 I reworked your calculation (yeah I was bored) - I think this is a bit more accurate (but still way off the mark). Here we go: 1) Get the Ohio Population population between ages 20 - 34 is 2,219,901 (US Census Bureau 2006 estimate). 2) Find out how many of the Ohio population is between 21 and 29 Census statistics don't show this age range but we can apply a crude fraction. 20 - 34 age range is 14 years, 21 - 29 age range is 9 years. thereforeeee about 9/14 (64%) of people in the 20 - 34 age group will be in the [age range of 21 to 29. Adjust to get a figure for number of people between 21 to 29 in Ohio: 2,219,901 x 64% = 1,065,552 3)Not all of these are of course female - adjust for this fact In Ohio 51.3% of the population is female (US Census Bureau 2005). You guys in Ohio are damn lucky to be outnumbered by women Apply 51.3% to 1,065,552 to get an amount of Ohio females between 21 and 29 = 546,628 4)Lets have a stab in the dark at estimating how many of these may be single. The US Census Bureau estimates that never married and separated females (of correct age) in Ohio total 1,365,400. If we compare this to the total amount of Ohio females of correct age we get the fraction 1,365,400 / 4,772,186 = 29% So about 29% of females could be eligible. This is of course highly skewed as more older females are married than younger females but nevertheless we shall apply this. 546,628 x 29% = 158,522 (available females between 21 to 29 in Ohio). 5)Now you want to adjust to see how many female Ohio residents between 21 to 29 are non smokers right? The American Heart Association estimates that 18.5% of US females (aged over 18 ) smoke. thereforeeee about 81.5% of our 21 - 29 year old female Ohio residents will be non smokers. 81.5% of 158,522 = 129,195 (available non smoking females between 21 to 29 in Ohio). 6)You would also like to see how many of them might be Christian? No problem. About 76.5% of the US population identifies as Christian (National Survey of Religious Identification - Barry A. Kosmin, Seymour P. Lachman and associates at the Graduate School of the City University of New York). Apply this percentage to see how many may be Christian: 76.5% of 129,195 = 98,834 So there we have it you have a choice of 98,834 available non smoking Christian females living in Ohio between the ages of 21 and 29. 7) See how many might live within 40 miles of you??? What? This is very hard. Why restrict yourself to 40 miles away though? Not many people live their lives travelling no further than 40 miles. We have holidays, visit relatives and move about for jobs. In the world of fast transport instant communication and mobility and a global economy I am not going to let you have this one! I'll do you a favour though, I'll apply a fraction for you: Lets apply this as a fraction: females that meet your criteria against the total population of Ohio: 98,834 / 11,478,006 = 0.861 %. thereforeeee if you meet 1000 new people (males and females of all ages) of these 1000 people 861 will meet your exacting standards! 861 seems small at first but hey women are great (I think they are anyway ). I am sure I could find one woman out of 861 women that already meet my main criteria that both I fancy and who fancies me. So there you go. Sorry that was a bit tongue in cheek but to the original poster don't worry I think you have a much much better chance than you give yourself credit for, meet lots of people and you'll find a partner. Good luck. Data from U.S Census Bureau, American Heart Association, and National Survey of Religious Identification.
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