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Christians are humans too. humans do things like that. end of story.

 

we are not God we need to stop preaching like we are. I am Catholic & i am guilty of smokin the hippy lettuce, drinkin the booze & have premarital sex. so what. im not gettin to heaven or hell any faster. lol

 

live life, i think people need to stop thinkin that not smokin & drinkin will get them on the fast track to Heaven!

 

"lead us not into temptation & deliver us from evil-amen"

 

eh. who's perfect?

 

-DG724

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I think the issue here is you have some so called Christians who look down upon others for doing bad things, have the nerve to talk about morals etc. when in private they do things that are unlike Christian like such as drugs, or hating a group of people b/c of their skin color (a lot of those KKK members and those today w/that same mentality hate black, jews etc. but claim to be devout Christians). That's why the word hypocrite comes to mind.

 

And for the record it's not just Christianity as I find that in a lot of the major realigions there's seems to be a lot of people who are hypocrites and don't seem to be following the teachings/principals of that religion. I'm not knocking religion in any sense but some of those who "follow" these religions (quotations are follow b/c IMO they aren't acting with the love and care God and Jesus gave to all men/women).

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I think that it does go against christian morals and beliefs as the bible teaches that life is sacred and so, of course, it should be respected by not doing things such as drugs.

 

Im not one to judge and i think that people should be free to make whatever choices they want in life, this includes choosing to do drugs or not.

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yeah, do what you like. i'm not judging. although, i don't see why anyone, christian or not, would want to make their life any shorter...? drinking, smoking, drugs, etc. are harmful to your body. it's like slowing committing suicide. so yeah, christian or not, i think it's kinda strange. and if you are a christian, yeah, no one is perfect, and everyone slips now and then, but i don't see how you would intentionally harm your body on a semi-regular basis. if you value this life God has given you and your body, why would you want to slowly destroy his work? also, yeah, drinking and what not is kinda fun and very human of us to do, but don't write it off as something minor. drinking is fun until you get behind the wheel of a car piss drunk and kill someone or yourself. so don't think its that simple. "we're all human, we all make mistakes.." yeah, until that mistake kills an innocent person or yourself. so yeah, do what you want, have fun, christian or not, but just remember, don't be so selfish.

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Drugs in themselves are not really harmful, but most people do them to escape the pain of life. In that way they are very harmful, because drugs allow a person to escape reality and live in a fantasy world, rather than finding a real way to deal with thier problems. Its important to remember that a drug can be more than just mushroom, weed, cocaine, ect. A drug can also be alchol, tobacco, television, pornography, or anything else that tries allows a person to escape reality so they don't have to couragously face thier problems and defeat them. When a person starts doing drugs, its very sad, and I don't think that person should be judged. Instead, they really need some help. They need someone who will be thier friend and counsellor, and who will have the courage to speak the truth to them. This is true of people who are religious and those who are not religious.

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Drugs are harmful and can ruin people's life.

 

It doesn't matter if the person is Christian. If someone is turning to alcohol and drugs then it is probably because they are unhappy about something in there lives are using that as an escape. There is nothing wrong with judging them, its how you judge them thats the problem. If you judge them to be vile creatures who will rot in hell, then thats wrong. But if you judge them as good people who have made mistakes and you only want to help them, there is nothing wrong with that. These people do need help and each of us should be there to offer that help.

 

I have a big problem with hypocrites. I've seen far too many people who hide behind Christianity or another religion and claim to be rightous but turn around and do very mean, rude and destructive things. They bring a bad name to there religion. I think the feel bad about themselves and turn to the drugs as an escape. Then they feel bad about the drugs and turn to the religion to make themselves feel better about themselves. But they never address the real problems and turn back to the drugs. This starts a cycle. They spend so much time trying to escape the issues and feel better that they never address what is really wrong.

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As christians usually don't forbid drinking alcohol (I mean Jesus made wine out of water, right?), why is there a question about smoking pot? Alcohol is a hard drug, while pot is a softdrug.

 

I am from a country where weed is 'legal' (guess!), and I am always amazed that people will make so much fuzz about weed (still) and warn you about smoking etc, while you can buy alcohol everywhere.

 

 

Ilse.

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That's why I don't like alcohol either. Somehow it has become the socially accepted drug that everyone assumes is alright. Maybe because it takes more alcohol to mess you up then other drugs? But alcohol can be just as dangerous in the wrong hands. I've seen alcoholics who have let alcohol mess up there lives. And I've seen alcohol weaken peoples will so that they do other drugs. Alcohol is just as dangerous.

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As christians usually don't forbid drinking alcohol (I mean Jesus made wine out of water, right?), why is there a question about smoking pot? Alcohol is a hard drug, while pot is a softdrug.

 

I am from a country where weed is 'legal' (guess!), and I am always amazed that people will make so much fuzz about weed (still) and warn you about smoking etc, while you can buy alcohol everywhere.

 

 

Ilse.

 

well, i agree, alcohol is very bad. but even though biblically, alcohol was accepted..Jesus didn't get drunk. they drank socially. i hate when people think its cool to get drunk and then drive or do something equally stupid...grow up.

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The reason I asked this question is becausee I have smoked weed and done shrooms once, I realize that I am being a hypocrite when I do things like that. I want to stop and am in process of doing so, but for anybody who has done that and enjoys the experience, its hard when your given another oppourtunity to do them. I know there is no excuse right?

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Tenn, I think that if you feel that this is something you shouldn't be doing, you have a good reason to stop. Next to that, my opinion is that trying things out is a normal part of life and not strictly forbidden by the christian belief. Learning in life is trial and error. You learn most by living life, not by living from a book.

 

Suppose I am not a christian and you are. We decide to smoke a joint, and you tell me you are a christian. Who am I to think you are a hypocrite then? We are BOTH smoking a joint. Honestly, it's kind of easy as a non-religious person to decide for another person what should be forbidden by his/her religion.

 

I was raised christian, and in high school it would often happen to me that I would go to a party and people would say to me: "oh, are you ALLOWED by GOD to dance on this music?".

 

My point is: it's not for someone else to judge you on this. (in fact that is hypocrite!)

 

Ilse.

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ilse,

 

A hypocrite isn't someone who judges. It is someone who claims to do one thing and then does it themselves. Someone who claims that drugs are bad and then does drugs themselves is being a hypocrite, regardless of religion. What makes it troubling for Christians or any other religion is that they claim to be doing what God wants and then turn around and do the opposite. It's like they are lying to and betraying God. But someone who judges another person is not a hypocrite. In fact, we all judge others. Even by saying that other people shouldn't be judging someone, you are judging that person as worthy of not being judged.

 

Tenn, since you obviously feel guilty about what you've done then you have a good reason to stop. You made some bad choices but that is perfectly normal, everyone does. The important thing is that you've realized your mistakes and are tyring to change. Anyone who puts you done because of is being rude and you shouldn't listen to them. I know it's hard, thats why drugs are addictive. It feels good when you are doing it but only causes trouble the rest of the time. I haven't felt this personally but I did watch my brother go through it. He told me that it is not an easy process to go through and you have to constantly struggle. But he overcame it and I know you can too.

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I think that cigerettes are a drug, and i think they should be criminalized. Like how can cigerette makers manufacture a product that they know we kill people, and still not face justice in a criminal court. Civil penalties are not enough. I want to see all cigerette makers in a criminal court, being tried for the millions of people they have killed.

 

Weed isn't as bad as cigerettes. Atleast it doesn't kill people. Its important to help those who are addicted to various drugs, rather than just them.

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I don't that weed isn't any worse the cigarettes...it is addictive, and the smoke is still not good for your lunges. The drug it self may not be addictive but the feeling is. Thats what I find the problem is, its not that I need to escape life....its just a neat feeling, more relaxed....I have talked to a few people who say that when they smoke they feel more spiritual because the rest of the world seems far away....and you can focus more on God. And its true, when I was on shrooms, I had my bible with me 90% of the time and was "preaching" to the people I was with. I truly felt closer to God because I wasn't numb to my feelings.

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My name is aphrodite1211 and I am an addict. I used drugs to escape and used it to open my mind to a greater consciousness and spirituality. Guess what, it did help me escape and it did lead to greater consciousness and spirituality, but I got addicted because i recognized the drugs as the one reponsible for these good feelings. I got sick, unhealthy and had no direction in life. Always looking for something not knowing what. Then I realized what I am looking for is the eternal bliss and goodness (like when you get high on weed...my fav or shrooms...also my fav) and this eternal goodness and bliss is within me and within everyone and I don't need drugs to discover it. In fact, drugs made me unhealthy and confused when i used it to the extreme. Some religions use drugs for spiritual purposes but not like we addicts use it. After a year i smoked again and meditated, that is when i realized i did not need weed to open up to the world where everything is "all good". I thank the weed for the experiences I had and told it I did not need it anymore and parted with it.

 

It is a slow process, you need to be patient. At first everything makes no sense and you feel all sorts of things or you feel nothing. Keep at your path and when the impurities have dissolved, the light becomes clearer

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yeah, do what you like. i'm not judging. although, i don't see why anyone, christian or not, would want to make their life any shorter...? drinking, smoking, drugs, etc. are harmful to your body. it's like slowing committing suicide. so yeah, christian or not, i think it's kinda strange. and if you are a christian, yeah, no one is perfect, and everyone slips now and then, but i don't see how you would intentionally harm your body on a semi-regular basis. if you value this life God has given you and your body, why would you want to slowly destroy his work?

 

inherently by this argument, junk food and soft drinks are also headed in the direction of drugs (in fact excessive junk food could be more evil than a joint).

 

i personally don't have junk food or soft drinks unless it's extremely inconvenient to have anything else (ie no place around, or everybody in my social clique is going there). i don't look down upon other people who do it though. i'm not christian, so i'm speaking from a totally different set of morals, but i personally believe you can do anything you want so long as you do not harm others in your actions. so drinking - okay. drinking and driving - bad. smoking - bad (pollutes the atmosphere, second hand smoke, people have to put up with the bad smell).

 

 

i think the main way about this is that it's not a drug itself that is bad, but the abuse/misuse of it. this goes for everything not just drugs.

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