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    Originally Posted by Leah33
    There have been scientific studies.
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    I can see where it would help to change oneís moods but change DNA??

    Either way yoga and meditation are out for me.

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    Just so you know most anti-anxiety medication is only to be taken for a short time, like two weeks under the assessment of a therapist. What these drug companies don't tell you is that it can have and will have devastating effects with continued use. Many people end up even more anxious, confused, physically jittery, have behavior issues, lost of control/suicidal. Even when you stop taking the drugs, it continues to have negative side effects. It turns out patients need to reduce the use in very small increments over months to avoid those side effects. As I watched my grandmother and mother go through years of medication for their mental health issues...taking a pill isn't always the answer. It can be simple as lifestyle change. It's a no brainer things like drugs use (prescription or non prescription), alcohol, smoking, over eating, poor high sugar diet, lack of exercise, binge watching negative things like the news on TV/internet, stress and isolation can cause havoc on the chemistry in the brain.

    By taking accountability for what you are doing now, and making full effort to make changes ie:exercise, eat healthy, keeping busy, and avoid toxic things, with reap way more benefits than any pill. Just have to get off your a$$ and do it.

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    Originally Posted by smackie9
    Just so you know most anti-anxiety medication is only to be taken for a short time, like two weeks under the assessment of a therapist. What these drug companies don't tell you is that it can have and will have devastating effects with continued use. Many people end up even more anxious, confused, physically jittery, have behavior issues, lost of control/suicidal. Even when you stop taking the drugs, it continues to have negative side effects. It turns out patients need to reduce the use in very small increments over months to avoid those side effects. As I watched my grandmother and mother go through years of medication for their mental health issues...taking a pill isn't always the answer. It can be simple as lifestyle change. It's a no brainer things like drugs use (prescription or non prescription), alcohol, smoking, over eating, poor high sugar diet, lack of exercise, binge watching negative things like the news on TV/internet, stress and isolation can cause havoc on the chemistry in the brain.

    By taking accountability for what you are doing now, and making full effort to make changes ie:exercise, eat healthy, keeping busy, and avoid toxic things, with reap way more benefits than any pill. Just have to get off your a$$ and do it.
    I have had at least 5 years of therapy which helped immensely. I donít sit on my butt. I just went from diabetic to non diabetic totally trough diet and exercise. When working a run after toddlers and pre schoolers 12 hours a day. I am not lazy or unmotivated and neither is my husband.

    However my husband was entirely non-functional passed out on the floor quitting jobs passed out on the floor quitting jobs before SSRIs. Now heís completely functional with a fabulous career. My husband and I have been severely abused, hence our mental health issues. Then there is genetics as there is a genetic component for anxiety. My family for sure carries a genetic component through my fatherís family.

    Iím not saying that one should not be responsible for their life and should not eat properly or exercise. Far from it. But to say that it only comes down to exercise and eating good food and and eating bananas is going to dramatically change your life..... Iím not so sure that works for everyone. For instance I canít eat crap loads of bananas. Bananas have a crap load of sugar and carbohydrates I would be right back into being a diabetic in three months.

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    In the US controlled (scheduled) substances are governed by the DEA as well as the FDA, this includes everything from opioids to benzodiazepines. Every prescription written must, by law, state all the known side effects in the US. In the US practitioners must have a license to prescribe (or dispense) therapists are not involved in that.

    There are mandatory requirements regarding prescribing reporting etc. "What doctors don't want you to know" is conspiracy talk on infomercials. Every doctor and pharmacist must report and account for every scheduled substance prescription. They are tracked and monitored to see if pharmacies or doctors are "pill mills" (often 'pain clinics') or if patients are "doctor shopping" to obtain scheduled substances.

    Basically controlled substances have high abuse potential because of high physical dependency rates. This means the have a high street value. Many rehabs offer programs for benzodiazepines dependence in addition to opioids and a plethora of other street, prescription substances. Google it. many rehab sites actually have excellent basic info on controlled substances.

    This is why pain and anxiety management on a more permanent basis for non-terminal conditions is so important.
    Originally Posted by smackie9
    Just so you know most anti-anxiety medication is only to be taken for a short time.

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    Originally Posted by Wiseman2
    In the US controlled (scheduled) substances are governed by the DEA as well as the FDA, this includes everything from opioids to benzodiazepines. Every prescription written must, by law, state all the known side effects in the US. In the US practitioners must have a license to prescribe (or dispense) therapists are not involved in that.

    There are mandatory requirements regarding prescribing reporting etc. "What doctors don't want you to know" is conspiracy talk on infomercials. Every doctor and pharmacist must report and account for every scheduled substance prescription. They are tracked and monitored to see if pharmacies or doctors are "pill mills" (often 'pain clinics') or if patients are "doctor shopping" to obtain scheduled substances.

    Basically controlled substances have high abuse potential because of high physical dependency rates. This means the have a high street value. Many rehabs offer programs for benzodiazepines dependence in addition to opioids and a plethora of other street, prescription substances. Google it. many rehab sites actually have excellent basic info on controlled substances.

    This is why pain and anxiety management on a more permanent basis for non-terminal conditions is so important.
    Here in Canada too class C meds are strictly monitored. For instance I CAN NOT get my clonazepam before I am scheduled to get it . I must also attend physician appointments to be able to get the prescription. And if you donít attend your physician appointments the government wonít even allow the prescription to be issued and nor will your insurance company pay their portion. Here too a therapist cannot prescribe anything only a psychologist, psychiatrist or medically licensed doctor. These are not legally obtained easily. Most doctors wonít even prescribe them anymore unless you have an extenuating circumstance.

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    Exactly. These are all the checks and balances in place to help protect patients.
    Originally Posted by ~Seraphim ~
    Here in Canada too class C meds are strictly monitored. For instance I CAN NOT get my clonazepam before I am scheduled to get it . I must also attend physician appointments to be able to get the prescription. And if you donít attend your physician appointments the government wonít even allow the prescription to be issued and nor will your insurance company pay their portion.Most doctors wonít even prescribe them anymore unless you have an extenuating circumstance.

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    Originally Posted by ~Seraphim ~
    I have had at least 5 years of therapy which helped immensely. I donít sit on my butt. I just went from diabetic to non diabetic totally trough diet and exercise. When working a run after toddlers and pre schoolers 12 hours a day. I am not lazy or unmotivated and neither is my husband.

    However my husband was entirely non-functional passed out on the floor quitting jobs passed out on the floor quitting jobs before SSRIs. Now heís completely functional with a fabulous career. My husband and I have been severely abused, hence our mental health issues. Then there is genetics as there is a genetic component for anxiety. My family for sure carries a genetic component through my fatherís family.

    Iím not saying that one should not be responsible for their life and should not eat properly or exercise. Far from it. But to say that it only comes down to exercise and eating good food and and eating bananas is going to dramatically change your life..... Iím not so sure that works for everyone. For instance I canít eat crap loads of bananas. Bananas have a crap load of sugar and carbohydrates I would be right back into being a diabetic in three months.
    No offense but this thread isn't about you...this was for the OP and others that may want to have a good look at their own situation, what they are doing and what they could do to change. Results may vary yes of course, but I have noticed the public in general with this Codiv/self isolation is amplifying fear/anxiety and are looking for a "quick fix" to remedy it which is honestly dangerous/concerning.

    The majority of us are well aware of your situation, and by no means is any of my advice ever directed at you personally. My advice is general, and not pinpointing at anyone.

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    Originally Posted by smackie9
    No offense but this thread isn't about you...this was for the OP and others that may want to have a good look at their own situation, what they are doing and what they could do to change. Results may vary yes of course, but I have noticed the public in general with this Codiv/self isolation is amplifying fear/anxiety and are looking for a "quick fix" to remedy it which is honestly dangerous/concerning.

    The majority of us are well aware of your situation, and by no means is any of my advice ever directed at you personally. My advice is general, and not pinpointing at anyone.
    I know it is not about me . I am just using my example.

    I am just saying there is not a natural solution for everyone.

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