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    Quandary Regarding Rent

    I hope that this is the correct sub-forum for this. If it's not, please do move it!

    I've been renting a room in an apartment for the last 18 months. This is a sublet room with no contract, and technically I'm not meant to be there, but these things happen.

    Given the Corona situation, I came back to my parents before lockdown started (I'm in Ireland) as I don't get along well with my housemate, and I don't find the apartment to be a very relaxing place. Locked up with her constantly would be more stress than I'm capable of dealing with.

    The problem is one of rent. I'm paying rent for the room back in the apartment, but I cannot go back there due to the lockdown. I have wanted to move out, and I planned to late in the summer so I decided that I may as well do it now. However, the housemate says that she needs two months' notice, and won't accept the start of this notice period until after lockdown end as she cannot look for a replacement until then.

    At this point, I want to add that I suffer badly from both depression and anxiety. I'm usually okay, but it's situations like these that really set off my problems, and I'm currently feeling very anxious about this. I'm giving my parents money, naturally, but I'm also stuck paying the rent for a room I'm not using. I can afford, yes, but it's wasted money and I feel bad. My dad is getting irritated about this as he doesn't like to see me behave this way, and that's making me feel worse. I don't like to behave this way either....

    What I was going to offer to my housemate was to pay one more month of rent and to let her keep the deposit. As I've already paid for this coming month, that is effectively three months that I will pay her for. The one I've paid for, the next month (may) and the month that the deposit covers. I don't know how long the lock down will go on for, so this seems reasonable? My parents say that it's crazy to pay her any more, but I think that given the situation, and given that I have no contract (I could walk out tomorrow), I think that I'm just being very generous.

    What do you think?

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    Just give notice. No contract means you are not responsible for more than a month at a time.
    Originally Posted by equinox
    This is a sublet room with no contract

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    I think you have to stick to what was agreed on - everyone is in the same boat financially and she likely cannot re-rent the room. I'm sorry you are suffering and not to be cold but that is not a business person's issue to endure financially -she as your landlady I mean.

    Many people who rent rooms, have house cleaners/baby sitters/aides for their elderly relatives and on and on are all in this boat. I'm paying extra for common areas in my apartment building that are now closed. It's the way life is now, it sucks and yes even those who get depressed or get triggered by wasted money unfortunately have to endure it too. So sorry you are having a hard time.

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    If she's not legally permitted to sublet, she has no recourse. If you've left stuff there that you need to retrieve, either consider paying rent a storage fee for your stuff, or, if you have already retrieved your belongings, then quit paying rent and call the 'agreement' over.

    Don't expect your security back from an illegal landlord. Use that as your last month, and retrieve any belongings before then.

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    As mentioned, the legalities are in your favor. And your housemate isn't exactly making it easy to sympathize with her trying to manipulate you with pretty egregious non-binding terms. That said, speaking personally, if there was an understanding or agreement even if not in a contract, I'd strive to keep by my word. If you've already met it, I wouldn't feel bad at all giving one last month's and not bothering with the deposit. It's up to you. Also, if your stuff is still in the apartment, it'd be pretty crappy to withhold rent until you've had it moved out.

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    It doesn't matter if the apartment is not meant to be rented out or if your parents feel you shouldn't be paying rent....put yourself in her shoes for a moment.

    You got to run back home to your parents, she's stuck in this apartment for which you were meant to be helping pay for.
    It's all well and good that you run off back home, but you left a person high and dry...not cool.

    She still needs a place to live and if you think your anxiety is bad, consider how hers might be knowing she could be out on the streets!

    Be a decent and responsible human being and pay at least one more months rent (30 days notice is the usual) and allow her to keep the deposit.

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    I think that I'm just being very generous.
    Change that wording to responsible. You're not doing her a favor, you're doing the right thing and what you should be doing.
    It's not always about your situation, you have to consider everyone.

    But you do have the right idea, pay for May and let her keep the deposit.

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    No contract, no agreement, then there are no rules/laws to follow. YOU don't have to give her notice. She's just covering her own ass with bs threats. This will not hold up in court of any kind. I agree you are more than generous in your offer. You could be a dbag and not pay anything. This roommate should be grateful she is getting some compensation. And there will be people looking to rent, so don't kid yourself....with people being cooped up for weeks/months, there will be a lot of relationships ending and people wanting out. So this roommate won't be that put out from your departure.

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    So you were happy to take advantage of this arrangement when it was convenient for you, now that it isn't, you are totally willing to drop your roommate in the sh$t and leave her high and dry at the worst possible moment even though you can perfectly afford the payment and you are just being greedy. As pointed out, legally, you can probably do it just fine with a 30 day notice. I guess it boils down to what kind of a person you want to be and what lets you sleep at night. Only you can decide on that.

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    Who's to say that the room cannot be rented out during this lock down? You managed to leave and return home. Maybe there is someone else out there that need s a room. Have either you or the landlady tried to find someone to replace you?

    I'm not completely unsympathetic to the person wanting your rent. However, being a landlord comes with certain risks. And being an illegal landlord even more so. She should chalk it up and try to rent out the room.

    You should move on. It really is not your problem to solve.

    If she cannot make the rent without renting a room out, then she is in the wrong place to begin with.

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