Newborn on the way soon

[~Seraphim ~]

Immunizations save lives, period.

[Cherylyn]

Is Jenny still on that train?!

J. McCarthy sold millions of books, therefore sold millions a bill of goods.

[Cherylyn]

She is a total quack. I would love to kick the “ cure “ culture ableism people in the head. And vaccines are NOT the cause of autism. Genetics is.

I tried to tell my sister this to no avail. It's not worth causing WW3 with her. Btw, both my sister's husband and daughter were diagnosed with autism. The daughter, my niece is a nice gal. To the contrary, her father is another story. My husband, sons and I avoid BIL (brother-in-law) like the plague! Then there is my sister her defends her meal ticket, therefore, she's part of the package deal so we avoid her as well. C'est la vie.

[Batya33]

Talk to a pediatrician. Take yourself and your newborn somewhere else to live. Stay with your family . Don't endanger a life because you're with a fool, his brat and whatever his crazy babymama are into. Stop the nonsense political and fad arguments and get yourself and your unborn child to safety. You can't win an argument with fanatics. There is no point stirring up drama here while you sit there and allow your unborn and yourself to be jeopardized by ignorance. Get off this thread, pack and go stay with intelligent people.

I understand you do not like to be quoted but please do not refer to that child as a brat. He cannot control whether he is vaccinated even if he knew what the deal was -and if he is misbehaving by not washing his hands properly that's fairly typical of 6 year old boys (and typically that's because the parents don't insist on proper hygiene) that doesn't make him a "brat" -if anyone is being bratty it's the dad who's not vaccinating his son and exposing his future child and the mother of his future child to very harmful if not fatal diseases.
I know you're not a fan of being quoted but it's ironic to stand up for the best interests of the new baby coming soon and trash an innocent child who's done nothing wrong.

[Wiseman2]

What you need to do is talk to your Ob/Gyn and a pediatrician you plan to use and pack and move out. Inform your family you will be staying with them until you give birth. Are you really will to subject an unborn life to a host of possible birth defects and illnesses that have serious consequences? Get away from this moron and his spoiled brat.

Hi all, I’m pregnant & will be due in 2 months.

[Batya33]

OP if you choose to stay with the father of your child please know that his child didn't ask to be put in harm's way and will learn proper hygiene if he is taught proper hygiene and if it is reinforced properly. Many children balk at washing their hands/do not wash properly or frequently enough. But that can change. The boy is being put in harm's way by his parents and it is not his fault. If you are going to continue being involved with his dad please do your best to strive for family harmony and peace which is also the best for your child. But your child's health and safety come first. So for that I would move out ASAP and move back only when the boy's vaccinations are up to date. Otherwise I would continue to live separately and interact with the father where there is no close interaction with the child.

[Snny]

He will not accinate him and I will most likely have to keep an eye on both of them and reduce contact

Keeping an eye out is not going to protect you or your baby. Good luck with that one. Diseases and viruses can be airborne and incubate for DAYS. I got a 1 year old who has gotten sick no matter what preventatives. This past year SEVERAL colleagues and I came down with the flu even though we all had the flu shot- the previous time I got the flu happened 20 years ago.

You need to be way more proactive against anti-vaxxers. Cut. Them. Completely. Out. You and your family’s health vs. their sh*y lifestyle should be no contest.

Measles are becoming a serious threat now because of these anti-vaxxers. I went to grad school for a mental health degree and had to sit through a presentation about the Iron Lung because of paralysis caused by measles and polio. I’d rather my kid “get autism” than her being immobilized and sit in a machine just to breathe for the rest of her life. Show that to your boyfriend.

Your reasons are justified. Also with you being pregnant, you don’t have a strong immunity system either. I also vouch for moving in with family. It’s not worth the risk.

[Batya33]

I agree with Snny but would not go there at all with your boyfriend about "rather get autism than die" -please do not feed into the ridiculous rumor mill and fear mongering about autism. It's not true and repeating it simply perpetuates it. I know Snny doesn't think so either but even mentioning it these days gets it twisted again into some semblance of reality.

[itsallgrand]

Belief systems are very powerful filters through which people see reality. He is going to filter out any information which goes against what he believes on this matter. Have you ever seen the viral video of a man mowing his lawn with a tornado in the background? It looks ridiculous, but that's the power of the human mind when it comes to what we believe. Your boyfriend is like that guy, he's acting according to his own belief that the 'tornado' ( disease, in this case) is not a real threat .
Trust your own judgement on this and act to protect your child. What a sticky situation, that the father and your child's brother are actual health risks to you and baby! And yet it's so preventable, man, it's sad.
I'm curious now if there is legal precedent here , if your bf were to try and fight you to be around the baby without vacinnations. ?

[abitbroken]

I guess he put religioua beliefs or something of that sort to get out of that. There is no legitimate reason and it was both their ideas, he is fine with me vaccinating my child so i guess his mom did not want to and was fine with it. He will not accinate him and I will most likely have to keep an eye on both of them and reduce contact because my baby wil be susceptible. I feel my fiance thinks im worrying too much, different genes and totally different immune systems he thinks his son is invisible to viruses, and he thinks the same of himself whom does not have all vaccinations, but a couple a weeks ago he was dying over a sore throat I think it is selfish he wont vaccinate over his opinion with no facts.

"or something?"and you don't know what that belief or actual religion is? In marrying him or becoming engaged it was something that you really should have discussed

Unless he is a Christian Scientist, there really is no other religion that disallows vaccines. Some people assume the Hassidic Jewish community is anti-vax and rabbis have spoken out to clarify that it isn't and have encouraged people to vaccinate.

So the "religious grounds" not based on any sincere belief --- is murky