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    I'd be more than happy to dunk both parents' heads into an ice bath.

    There's no excuse in 2019 not to be the most basic level of knowledge of child development. I very regrettably remember someone coming onto these forums spanking her two-year old son because he apparently was going wild with his bubble vacuum specifically to spite her. He wasn't. Nor was this woman's daughter ****ing herself out of defiance. When it comes to matters that don't actually render an intrinsic or intuitive harm, toddlers aren't bright enough to put together, "I shouldn't do this, but I'm going to anyway." As gross as crapping your pants is, there's no reason for a two-year old to piece together that it's bad. Additionally, she's only two. I get it's ideal they have it over with by three, but what the **** is the rush? In the most urgent of cases, they'll need her potty-trained to get into a preschool. It's not the end of the world if they'll have to wait until she's 3 and has much more of an ability to grasp positive and negative reinforcement.

    Tried to look up the video and found one edited by someone else. They found a clip from two years ago of the nanny asking "warm bath or shower tonight?" and the mom very audibly thinking before responding, "warm shower, I think." It's very obvious they've been using cold showers to punish their kids for years. Obviously I'm not saying the kids would be better off if CPS took them away tomorrow, but that's pretty ****ed up.

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    You're going to be a good dad when the time comes, jman.

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    Someone posted a clip from two years ago where the oldest was then 4 and she was telling her dad that her doll was being naughty and he said something about "what do you do to naughty kids?"

    She answered..."put them in a cold shower" :(

    I just don't know how someone can have the heart to do that to their own child.

    I've never seen anything like that come out in online media. (I don't watch many families online or reality tv). I just don't know what to make of all of it. It boggles my mind.

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    As a general fyi, a cold shower isn't inherently abusive. In fact, there are many scientific studies that show the tremendous health benefits of taking a cold shower rather than a warm one, everything from muscle recovery and development to immune system strength. Reason I'm pointing this out is so people don't knee jerk on the concept of a cold shower at large.

    That said....what these particular people are doing is hands down abuse and crossing into sadistic behavior. I sincerely hope that the petition works and they have their children taken away. This is coming from someone who generally believes that bad parents are still often better than kids being dragged through assorted foster homes.....but these poor children are going to be damaged either way and foster seems to be a lesser evil in this case. These people are disordered beyond words.

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    What bothers me the most, is how their viewers are handling it. They are justifying it, telling them they support them and that it's "not that bad".

    Hardly anyone is paying attention to this story and most are looking the other way.

    It truly does make me sad for these children. Money really does seem to help people get away with many things.

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    Very cruel and just as bad as washing a kid's mouth out with soap!

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    Now the family had uploaded a video about the wifes eating disorder and making it seem like she's so sad.

    This is an obvious diversion...wow.

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    I know, La Hermes, I agree too. It doesn't make any sense to me. Horrible people have loads of followers, it's a sad commentary on our world today.

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    Terrible especially to punish for toilet training issues!! Also young children's skin/bodies I think tend to be more sensitive -or can be- to temperature issues. Our toilet training experience was horrible for us and stressful but we never punished ever or withheld privileges even. We did bribe and reward/reinforce as needed but it's terrible for a child to associate these bodily functions with punishment to her body!

    I read what Itsallgrand wrote with interest- I guess it would depend on what else is going on in the home and where they live, all of that sort of thing. I'm no expert.

    The other issue - having a child be under water can trigger the child to pee suddenly -so now she's had another "accident" and .... sigh. (I know this only anecdotally from a babysitting experience -older sister poured orange juice over younger sister's head who reacted by peeing on top of the OJ puddle....sigh -and of course the typical "I have to go" by a child who is in the pool.).

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    Batya, they have 4 children and from previous videos, like jman, said...it looks like they've been using this as a punishment for their other children too when they misbehaved, not just the toilet training.

    From how it looks, if one of their children misbehaves, they march them off to the cold shower or threaten with it.

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