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I haven't been on this forum for a while but today I went back because I badly need an advice...

 

 

We have a probationary period of 6 months and before our contract signing, the HR told me our salary will increase once we pass the evaluation for regularization.

 

Now that it's my 6th month, HR just told me I pass as a regular employee but my salary will NOT increase. It will be the same. The reason is that my boss isn't satisfied with the time and he wants to extend his evaluation to me. I asked the HR when will I get my actual salary increase and she told me it will be based on my annual evaluation performance which is on June. I got so bummed out and I found it unfair that all my co-workers who are also newbies like me got their salaries increase while I didn't.

 

Then I asked the HR where is my job description on the agreement paper for regularization and she told me I don't have one (really???) because my co-worker is gonna have a maternity leave on August and all her job will go to me so they can't provide me a JD. What's worse is that my salary will most likely won't increase.

 

It bums me out I know for myself I did everything and worked so hard to get my salary increase. I was never late to my work and I did everything my boss ask me to do. There are times his tasks piss me off because the tasks he would ask me to do are personal matters like reservation of his meeting with a car company regarding with his son's car or making me do things that wasn't on my job offer.

 

Basically I got no raise, my job is getting heavier each day due to my co-worker who is gonna leave for pregnancy in a few months, I got no health benefits, and everything is just a complete mess for me.

 

I didn't sign the agreement paper yet and I told the HR I will think about it and give my answer within this week. Some told me to sign and stay there until I get a new job. I have to render for 30 days upon my resignation according to the company's rules if I wanna resign.

 

So I'm thinking about staying until I find a new job or just discontinue the contract and focus on looking another job.

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Have you spoken at length with your boss about your performance? I don't doubt that you did everything he asked but he might have sensed some push back from you and is unsure about your willingness in some tasks. It doesn't sound like a good company if you can't get a straight answer. Refrain from gossip or speaking with your colleagues about the raise vs no raise. The person you should be speaking to is your boss and asking him what you might have missed in the six months or if there were any events or projects where you could have improved on. HR is just the spokesperson/paper pusher. Get the answers from your boss.

 

Your ego and confidence is bruised. Recognize that and then start remedying the issue without getting emotional about the raise vs no raise. At the very least, you should have answers (even answers you may not agree with). When you speak with your boss make sure you're a bit more neutral than your post above. You're new. It means nothing to them if you leave and you are easily replaceable. It means your pay cheque to you if you have to be escorted out or are let go abruptly. You also need some amicability between yourself and your coworkers before you leave if you are biding your time looking for another job. Think clearly and start working systematically.

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It's easier to find a job while you have a job.

 

So, do you need a job to survive or are all of your expenses paid and you need no money to live?

 

I live with my family so I don't need any expenses to pay. I'm working to earn for mt future business and learn more skills.

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Have you spoken at length with your boss about your performance? I don't doubt that you did everything he asked but he might have sensed some push back from you and is unsure about your willingness in some tasks. It doesn't sound like a good company if you can't get a straight answer. Refrain from gossip or speaking with your colleagues about the raise vs no raise. The person you should be speaking to is your boss and asking him what you might have missed in the six months or if there were any events or projects where you could have improved on. HR is just the spokesperson/paper pusher. Get the answers from your boss.

 

Your ego and confidence is bruised. Recognize that and then start remedying the issue without getting emotional about the raise vs no raise. At the very least, you should have answers (even answers you may not agree with). When you speak with your boss make sure you're a bit more neutral than your post above. You're new. It means nothing to them if you leave and you are easily replaceable. It means your pay cheque to you if you have to be escorted out or are let go abruptly. You also need some amicability between yourself and your coworkers before you leave if you are biding your time looking for another job. Think clearly and start working systematically.

 

Only the HR told me about my performance. My boss only said few things which are I'm hardworking and I'm getting familiar with some things. My problem is I still need some supervision.

 

I'm thinking about talking to him regarding my salary but honestly I lost all my motivation to work and I wanna quit. HR told me my boss dislikes talking to his employee directly regarding performances (btw he is the CEO of the company).

 

I also heard the employees before me who were 4 of them within the span of 2 years all left the company due to rumours how he didn't raise their salaries, extended contracts etc.

 

Even then though, co-workers told me their salary increase is really LOW. I find it hard to motivate myself and go back to work after everything today.

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I also have to add I'm the only probationaty employee who didn't get a salary increase. That's when I started to get upset and realized all of them have a systematic job description while mine didn't that's why I performed poorly, because he keeps giving me new tasks that aren't on my job offer and I'm unfamiliar with.

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If there is nothing in writing, or in your contract, stating your salary will increase once probationary period is over, I'm sorry you don't have a leg to stand on.

 

Lesson learned to always get statements like this in writing. Even in an email would suffice.

 

If not happy, then start looking for another job, don't resign until you find one.

 

Make sure everything discussed prior to job starting is in writing!!!

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My suspicion is he sensed your attitude when he asked you to do personal tasks. Please consider an attitude adjustment on that -be a team player - I've been an employee, a manager, everything in between and have a grad degree and nothing is beneath me. Two weeks ago I asked my boss if I could get her lunch for her because we were working on something and she realized she'd better go to the cafeteria before it closed. We were both tired and stressed. Had she asked me to get her lunch it would have been my honor to do so. No it's not in my job description and not even close. But to me the best managers and employees roll up their sleeves and do what it takes to get the job done whether in their job description or not. No matter what the salary. I'm really sorry you're not getting an increase and I would stay for sure until you have another job.

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Then prove it to them. Accept the extended evaluation and do an amazing job. Look for another job in the meantime if you want, but have you ever entertained the concept of rising to the occasion? i remember your other posts - you make random careless mistakes and you frequently feel "put out" by other people. Give this your absolute 100% best shot and IMPROVE. keep the job and get the money - if you decide to look for another job after that, fine, while you have a job, but stop job hopping. The problem with your job is that you won't apply yourself and try to do your best

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What I'm picking up on is that the company is not confident in your skills or ability or even attitude to carry out your job after all this time. By your own admission, you still need supervision. Instead of letting you go, they are extending your trial period so to speak and giving you a chance to catch up and get more on board. No doubt this stings, but it would seem that the way that you perceive your job performance doesn't match the way the company sees it.

 

Given the above, I doubt they are too concerned about you choosing to leave. They are actually being quite nice to you in terms of not just letting you go and leaving you without a paycheck cold.

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Then prove it to them. Accept the extended evaluation and do an amazing job. Look for another job in the meantime if you want, but have you ever entertained the concept of rising to the occasion? i remember your other posts - you make random careless mistakes and you frequently feel "put out" by other people. Give this your absolute 100% best shot and IMPROVE. keep the job and get the money - if you decide to look for another job after that, fine, while you have a job, but stop job hopping. The problem with your job is that you won't apply yourself and try to do your best

 

Excellent advice!!

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Remember - based on education/your years of experience - you do not yet win the right to call all the shots -- to dictate to people or to refuse work thinking its beneath you. Even if you work in a completely different field 10 years from now -- sticking with something and staying at a job for 3-6 months and job hopping does not look great to other employers. The fact that you stuck something out for a little bit at this stage in the game really matters. You don't have to stay there 10 years, but passing probation period is merely baseline

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My suspicion is he sensed your attitude when he asked you to do personal tasks. Please consider an attitude adjustment on that -be a team player - I've been an employee, a manager, everything in between and have a grad degree and nothing is beneath me. Two weeks ago I asked my boss if I could get her lunch for her because we were working on something and she realized she'd better go to the cafeteria before it closed. We were both tired and stressed. Had she asked me to get her lunch it would have been my honor to do so. No it's not in my job description and not even close. But to me the best managers and employees roll up their sleeves and do what it takes to get the job done whether in their job description or not. No matter what the salary. I'm really sorry you're not getting an increase and I would stay for sure until you have another job.

 

I can assure you I've never shown any atittude in front of him I dislike the personal things he's making me do. I dislike it but it doesn't mean I won't do it or show my emotions in front of him. and when he ask me to do those stuffs, I always find ways to achieve it and I don't make excuses.

 

Yeah I was planning on staying while looking. I never planned on being here for a lifetime anyways.

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Then prove it to them. Accept the extended evaluation and do an amazing job. Look for another job in the meantime if you want, but have you ever entertained the concept of rising to the occasion? i remember your other posts - you make random careless mistakes and you frequently feel "put out" by other people. Give this your absolute 100% best shot and IMPROVE. keep the job and get the money - if you decide to look for another job after that, fine, while you have a job, but stop job hopping. The problem with your job is that you won't apply yourself and try to do your best

 

I wish I could have that mindset but all my motivation and willingness got lost when I realized I'm getting a low salary while my job tasks keep getting higher and higher each day. It's like the work does not compensate the price.

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What I'm picking up on is that the company is not confident in your skills or ability or even attitude to carry out your job after all this time. By your own admission, you still need supervision. Instead of letting you go, they are extending your trial period so to speak and giving you a chance to catch up and get more on board. No doubt this stings, but it would seem that the way that you perceive your job performance doesn't match the way the company sees it.

 

Given the above, I doubt they are too concerned about you choosing to leave. They are actually being quite nice to you in terms of not just letting you go and leaving you without a paycheck cold.

 

If you look it at an optimistic side, yes it is good they are giving me a chance. But it felt like all those months of me doing not on my job description and hardwork went to nothing. I was willing to learn more skills and stay here for more than a year but all of those motivation were all gone.

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Remember - based on education/your years of experience - you do not yet win the right to call all the shots -- to dictate to people or to refuse work thinking its beneath you. Even if you work in a completely different field 10 years from now -- sticking with something and staying at a job for 3-6 months and job hopping does not look great to other employers. The fact that you stuck something out for a little bit at this stage in the game really matters. You don't have to stay there 10 years, but passing probation period is merely baseline

 

Unfortunately.

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I wish I could have that mindset but all my motivation and willingness got lost when I realized I'm getting a low salary while my job tasks keep getting higher and higher each day. It's like the work does not compensate the price.

 

Qwerty I'm afraid you are going to experience same thing wherever you go.

 

I have an awesome job, I actually love going in every day, the work, the environment all of it.

 

But I am severely underpaid for the amount of work I do!

 

I actually have two titles on my business card plus I do admin work and sometimes personal tasks for one of my bosses.

 

I received an above average annual evaluation last month and got a 3.5% increase (average).

 

I wish it had been more, I deserved more for all I do, but I've worked enough jobs to know this is fairly standard and I'm lucky to have bosses who want to keep me around and appreciate me!

 

Step away from your ego, or just yourself, and take abitbroken's solid advice.

 

That attitude will serve you well wherever you go, in career and life.

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There may be a certain percentage of employees who don't receive adequate job descriptions for reasons you already stated (doing his personal business for him). It may also be a way for the company to employ for a short time under probationary circumstances at discounted rates and then cull the ones it doesn't need. There is no way for you to prove this. I'm sorry you're learning this the hard way. It's best not to internalize the injustices of it and rid yourself of that overwhelming emotion (feeling wronged). It's not going to do you any good at this point. Be productive. If you want to leave, leave. But do so with the least amount of impact on you professionally and personally.

 

When you're interviewing again and looking at different companies to work for do a lot of research before accepting a job offer and I think your experiences here will equip you with the care and consideration required when it comes to clarifying job descriptions. It should also be discussed during your interview with your superiors. Always make sure you know who you are reporting to (you may have more than one person and your JDs may be varied). Allow for that flexibility and always be clear on who you're reporting to for any purpose/task. A good company will generally give you one person to report to only to reduce confusion. Make sure you understand clearly who that person is and insist that you meet with that person during the interview if it is not your interviewer.

 

Brush yourself off and prepare for the future. You've got very little to lose at this point and a lot to gain.

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I don't agree with this if he is looking to start his own business/for a career as opposed to a job. Of course abuse/harassment is not to be tolerated but if he's going to be rigid about what's in and not in his job description he'll have to expend a lot of needless energy faking it until he makes it. Nothing unjust about asking someone to be a team player and to be flexible -with certain exceptions of course. And if he gives any kind of rigid impression on an interview he's going to forego a lot of valuable opportunities.

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I don't agree with this if he is looking to start his own business/for a career as opposed to a job. Of course abuse/harassment is not to be tolerated but if he's going to be rigid about what's in and not in his job description he'll have to expend a lot of needless energy faking it until he makes it. Nothing unjust about asking someone to be a team player and to be flexible -with certain exceptions of course. And if he gives any kind of rigid impression on an interview he's going to forego a lot of valuable opportunities.

 

I agree with you actually but I've also worked at less than stellar companies so I'm not exactly naive when it comes to working for others. It's important to have a good attitude but when an environment is out of your (hypothetical 'your') hands, it's best to acknowledge it, accept it and work towards a better future. Continuing to hit your (again, hypothetical) head against a brick wall or in a situation that is difficult to change is not going to help anyone. His agitation alone is not healthy to the company or to himself. Not everyone is resilient enough or humble enough to backtrack on their wrongs and not everyone in the company will be willing to support him. Face it head on and prepare for the future in ways that are calculated for better returns.

 

My suggestion is to clarify the job description issue where clarification was lacking in the first place. If he has a a specific skill set and is hired for a specific purpose, both parties (employer and candidate/employee) should be aware. I'm not suggesting in any way rigidity or being difficult to work with but there should be more clarity at the start between both parties. The rest is really up to the person on whether he/she wants to grow. Most leaders or individuals in managerial positions take on a lot more than what their JDs list. It just comes with the territory. Even if he is his own boss his skills in learning to clarify job descriptions and expectations are useful when he's managing his own employees.

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I agree with you actually but I've also worked at less than stellar companies so I'm not exactly naive when it comes to working for others. It's important to have a good attitude but when an environment is out of your (hypothetical 'your') hands, it's best to acknowledge it, accept it and work towards a better future. Continuing to hit your (again, hypothetical) head against a brick wall or in a situation that is difficult to change is not going to help anyone. His agitation alone is not healthy to the company or to himself. Not everyone is resilient enough or humble enough to backtrack on their wrongs and not everyone in the company will be willing to support him. Face it head on and prepare for the future in ways that are calculated for better returns.

 

I don't relate to how what you wrote responds to what I wrote. I never suggested you were naive. My advice is as I wrote above. I disagreed with the approach you suggested he take. Your response here doesn't seem related to the approach I wrote about.

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No company is ever going to give some exhaustive job description. Even if they give you one, it's more of a guiding outline of your job, not detailed day to day duties. You are clinging onto paperwork, that ultimately doesn't matter. Your job is actually learn and do what's asked of you and then ask what more you can do.

 

If you really want to treat this job as a learning experience for yourself, then let your emotions cool off and actually figure out why your perception of what you have done and the company's perception of what you have done are so off. Start asking HR some specific questions like what you can do better to earn that raise. What did they see as deficient in your performance. Yes, HR, because they already made it clear that the boss doesn't want to deal with that directly himself. Let HR be the go between. Open up the conversation asking for constructive criticism from them and actually listen very careful and without getting defensive on what they tell you. The more earnest you are in seeking that constructive feedback, the more likely you are going to gain useful information (even if not pleasant to hear) that will allow you to grow.

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I don't relate to how what you wrote responds to what I wrote. I never suggested you were naive. My advice is as I wrote above. I disagreed with the approach you suggested he take. Your response here doesn't seem related to the approach I wrote about.

 

I edited it to include a few more points.

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It sounds like you believe you were guaranteed a raise after six months but that's apparently not the case. Who told you that you were guaranteed a raise?

 

Also, how do you know who got raises and how much they were? That shouldn't be discussed. And I hope you haven't discussed your disappointment at not getting a raise with any of your coworkers.

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No company is ever going to give some exhaustive job description. Even if they give you one, it's more of a guiding outline of your job, not detailed day to day duties. You are clinging onto paperwork, that ultimately doesn't matter. Your job is actually learn and do what's asked of you and then ask what more you can do.

 

If you really want to treat this job as a learning experience for yourself, then let your emotions cool off and actually figure out why your perception of what you have done and the company's perception of what you have done are so off. Start asking HR some specific questions like what you can do better to earn that raise. What did they see as deficient in your performance. Yes, HR, because they already made it clear that the boss doesn't want to deal with that directly himself. Let HR be the go between. Open up the conversation asking for constructive criticism from them and actually listen very careful and without getting defensive on what they tell you. The more earnest you are in seeking that constructive feedback, the more likely you are going to gain useful information (even if not pleasant to hear) that will allow you to grow.

 

Totally agree with this.

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