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    Going forward with a grievance?

    Hey Guys!

    Just me again!

    So from my previous post I have been actively interviewing.

    Despite loving the company I work for my line manager has made it unbearable to stay. Yes I know not everyone gets on with their manager but this went beyond your simple office issues.

    I've worked in some awful places before but have never been made to feel like this which pushed me to breaking point.

    I took the plunge to hand in my resignation last week. The plan was to walk away and wash my hands from the place and not look back.

    It was risky but I have saved money to get me by until I get a new job as my happiness is more important right now.

    The massive problem was dealing with the issue with my line manager is the fact I work in HR.

    Our current protocol is if you are having an "issue" in work you talk to your line manager....

    If your line manager is the "issue" then you talk to the head of HR.

    My line manager was away on annual leave. I decided to finally open up to the head of HR. She dismissed all I was saying in that meeting. We run out of time in the meeting and that was that. It was difficult as she thinks highly of my line manager.

    After this other issues followed which ultimately led to me handing in my resignation. Within my letter I outlined my reasons for leaving.

    I never planned on filing a formal grievance as I am leaving so felt it would serve no purpose. I just thought it would go on record and if any other employee was to flag this in the future; at least it would be there for them to refernce from my resignation letter and from me expanding on those points in my exit interview.

    Following this the head of HR suggested I file a grievance which was following protocol. I still have not put my grievence in writing yet so is not official yet.

    I have now been put on Garden Leave and no longer able to work my notice period.

    Any advice on going forward please. I've never been in this situation while in employment. I'm confused as to what to do next.

    I have received advice from others to go forward with filing the grievance but I'm still not sure.

    Thanks in advance guys :)

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    You do realize that future companies often ask your previous HR for a copy of your resignation letter, no? Anything you put in writing will follow you. They will also speak with your HR dept. to determine if you are a "problem" or if you had problems with other employees.

    Even if you resigned from Hell on Earth, always leave on a professional note. Everything follows you. Everything. Your departure should be as professional and smooth as if your future employer were there hearing and seeing everything.
    Originally Posted by Jellybean9
    After this other issues followed which ultimately led to me handing in my resignation. Within my letter I outlined my reasons for leaving.

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    Youíre in HR - why didnít you follow protocol?

    And why are you surprised by the outcome since you didnít follow it?

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    Luckily our company policy is to only give basic references for ex-employees. So we state duration of service and salary. Nothing more based on character or previous experience. Tends to be the case in most major companies here.

    So even if an employer was to ask for resignation letters we are unable to give them out due to company policy. I know polices changed but it has remained the same for a significant amount of time.

    I did follow protocol as you are meant to make raise an informal grievance with your line manager before things in writing. Obviously I couldn't as they was the problem.

    The head of HR had been out of the office majority of summer as she was on leave. Then during the whole of September due to post surgery sickness. This left no one else to talk to apart from the director.

    Now that felt like a step too far which is why I waited to raise the issue informally with the head of HR.

    The only acting person acting as head of HR during her absence was my line manager.

    So this left me with barely any options.

    It has been an ongoing issue since I joined the department in March. I've worked for for the company prior to transitioning but a different department.

    The issues with my line manager was very sensitive and not an issue I could address with her.

    This is why I arranged the meeting with the Head of HR on her return.

    It was something I had been dreading to do but took the opportunity of my manager bein on leave to address it.

    I had mentioned how I feel I have not been supported by my manager and before I could go any further head of HR said it was nonsense and brushed it under the carpet. We ran out of time in the meeting and she never mentioned a way of resolving any issues as she never let me explain.

    I haven't had an anxiety attack before. But litterally got in a bad way and following that saw the doctor who signed me off on sick leave. Shocked as never have I been in a situation like this. Despite experiencing a lot worst.

    During my sick leave I had to go into work as I had left something at my desk.

    By which time I was pulled into a meeting room by the head of HR. Which is against protocol and technically I am sick and they were in breach on their duty of care to me.

    Only to reference my work as being "s***" which is not the case. As they had to make up all the mess I had created.

    I work beyond my standard working hours. Literally there is no more I can physically do not that role.

    Even when by law I shouldn't have been working while signed off I went back after my doctor's appointment and continued so things were all ready for my cover on Monday.

    Anyway when back in the office and the head.of HR was insulting my work. I tried to mention issues with my manager again which she dismissed.

    That made me feel incredibly worst then my doctor signed me off a little longer. I feel so weak for even being signed off. I was ready to face work by ended up back at square one!

    Arguably I should have filed the formal grievance and follow protocol.

    I knew if I was to be open about the issues with my manager there was no way I could continue to work for the department any more.

    Which is devestating as I genuinely love my company.

    So I decided to hand in my notice. I referenced the reason I was leaving on those grounds. I didn't mention wanting to action formal grievance. Didn't go into detail of what my line manager has been doing since I've joined.

    I have read many letters of resignation with this company. People put a brief reason why they are leaving. I did the same. Thought if they wanted to discuss it further we had the exit interview. As I log all exit interviews it is a time for soon to be ex-employees to state why they are leaving and any issues they had. Which I would have done without actioning.

    The head of HR took my resignation letter as me wanting to file a formal grievance. At the time I hadn't wanted to so asked for some time to think about.

    So here I am thinking.

    I am not a trouble starter so feel I shouldn't continue down this path.

    That said majority of people around me are saying I should. Even the citizen advice helplines.

    I'm stuck at a crossroad!

    Sorry for the essay guys.

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    It doesn't matter what the procedure is as far as dates of employment because typically it's a small world and somehow word gets out -sometimes it's done carefully and subtly and sometimes it's obvious that there isn't a good reference when nothing is said other than dates of employment. People who want to help their former employees get a new job find a way to do so using loopholes in the current law/procedure.

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    This was my fear of going down any formalities.

    As I want to be able to move on and forget about that place.

    I'm out of work and wanted to focus on getting a break job.

    A family member who works for HR at one of the countries leading government bodies has encouraged going forward.

    Speaking to other employment professionals they have suggested grounds of Constructive Dismissal and Racial Discrimination.

    All seems very serious for me! So this is why I'm not sure how to handle it.

    The ball as almost started rolling.

    But I don't want to tarnish my name for future employment either.

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    This was the guy who kept sexually harassing you? File the harassment form. It might not lead to anything, but, hey, maybe it might. You're leaving anyway, so why not file it.

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    What evidence do you have of racial discrimination?

    A lot of people, including some on here, are quick to suggest fighting whatever hyperbolic good fight they see in it when it's not them investing the energy and burden. I'd be careful taking such advice too seriously as it's coming from people who have no personal stake. Everyone enjoys a bit of drama when it's someone else's.

    If you think you've got a case, cut to the chase and schedule a consultation. Otherwise, it's probably best to not give your company or any of those within it any motivation to go beyond the duration of service / salary protocol. It's not because companies can't that they don't, but that they typically don't have any reason to care even a little bit to risk a tiny chance of committing defamation. Give them a reason to care, and that may change. And, piggybacking off Batya, in the case of a resignation letter, that's not even having to jump through legal hoops. They're your own words. I think you'll find it difficult to find employers who will take you seriously if they're being offered your resignation letter containing a list of gripes.

    Personally? I'd probably bow out gracefully. Then again, you're pretty vague about your grievances, so I have no idea if you do in fact have any practical cause to pursue extra measures. At the end of the day, you know your life better than any of us, including which battles are worth whatever amount of headache.

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    What the heck happened? What is the grievance?

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    Unfortunately it sounds like you made some enemies and several superiors thought your work was substandard and your complaints were baseless.. All that and trying to find a job while unemployed could make finding a new job and your life difficult. Hopefully you live with your parents who can support you for a quite a while.
    Originally Posted by Jellybean9
    I had mentioned how I feel I have not been supported by my manager and before I could go any further head of HR said it was nonsense. Only to reference my work as being "s***" which is not the case. As they had to make up all the mess I had created. So I decided to hand in my notice. I referenced the reason I was leaving on those grounds.

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