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    Originally Posted by yatsue
    Unfortunately, this kind of eating style is not abnormal. Not healthy, but not abnormal. Certainly not an eating disorder. Despite being thin, I do partake in forcing myself to eat (aka pleasure eating). I like food. A lot. However, I am active and work out enough to burn it. It's normal. You want to taste food for satisfaction. How do people think they become overweight? Due to this. They don't need the extra calories - they like enjoying them.

    Look, there is no question you have unhealthy eating habits. The truth is, so does the rising majority of food abundant areas in the world. Many struggle to battle the bulge. Now, more are failing because of the kind of unhealthy food easily available.

    Do yourself a favor; start working out at least a few times a week (not just walking, go to the gym) and start only buying healthier food. It's harder to eat unhealthy when there's nothing but healthy foods in your home. Buy items you love that are healthy. I like to eat, but there are healthier options I choose that are also tasty to me. I like to drink unsweetened/lightly sweetened low calorie tea and sparkling water when just plain old water doesn't do it for me (I drink a lot). I don't like empty calories, so if I can improve on my snacks or eliminate it from drinks I will.

    Seek advisement of a nutritionist if you can, but I am sure you know the basics of good nutrition to at least start buying produce and whole grains with fiber first. You can only get away with not exercising in your life for so long until you begin to develop health problems. I am talking about lifting weights with proper form and low impact aerobic exercises, not just walking. You seem to like to talk about your diet/fitness or find excuses such as having an eating disorder, rather than seriously fixing your overall health. Sorry, you're in a similar boat as many others. It is a struggle for most, some just manage it better than others.
    I partially disagree. I don’t think most people force themselves to indulge. OP used the words “force” - that stands out to me

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    Originally Posted by mustlovedogs
    I partially disagree. I don’t think most people force themselves to indulge. OP used the words “force” - that stands out to me
    ...she just described pleasure eating:

    "I don't know if it's normal to binge eat uncontrollably on ny cheat day. Even when I'm full, I force myself to eat and eat because that's the only day I can cheat my diet."

    This is not a disorder. She does it because she likes eating these junk foods and this is the time she lets herself do it. It can be applied to anyone who eats after they're full, or does a diet (which often end in binging). Again, it is not healthy, but labeling it as a disorder is extreme. This is normal human behavior by today's standards due to the availability of unhealthy food that is designed to capitalize on the body's natural cravings. It is a huge struggle in the world now. Many go through this and it is well documented/studied. Heck, many will do this soon, per the tradition for Thanksgiving. More often, people overeat on their days off.

    You should not be doing temporary diets. You should be making a permanent lifestyle change with food. Labeling this as a disorder can cripple a person, as it puts the focus towards a mental health issue instead of eliminating the temptation to crash diet, which your body will naturally fight against. Eliminating the dieting will solve the problem. To be clear, this is obviously a physical struggle (due to crash dieting), not a mental one (disorder-wise).
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    I think, rather than it being a disorder, that it's more a way for you to stuff it all in, because you know it's off limits till your next cheat day.

    How about this: work in some of your favorites during the week. Plan to eat 150 calories (within your 1200-1500 range) of something you'll really enjoy, about half the days of the week.

    That way, come cheat day, you won't feel so deprived, like it's a whole other week till you get to eat it again.

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    Originally Posted by yatsue
    ...she just described pleasure eating:

    "I don't know if it's normal to binge eat uncontrollably on ny cheat day. Even when I'm full, I force myself to eat and eat because that's the only day I can cheat my diet."

    This is not a disorder. She does it because she likes eating these junk foods and this is the time she lets herself do it. It can be applied to anyone who eats after they're full, or does a diet (which often end in binging). Again, it is not healthy, but labeling it as a disorder is extreme. This is normal human behavior by today's standards due to the availability of unhealthy food that is designed to capitalize on the body's natutal cravings. It is a huge struggle in the world now. Many go through this and it is well documented/studied. Heck, many will do this soon as a tradition for Thanksgiving. More often, people overeat on their days off. You should not be doing temporary diets. You should be making a permanent lifestyle change. Labeling this as a disorder can cripple a person, as it puts the focus towards a mental health issue instead of eliminating the temptation to crash diet, which your body will naturally fight against. Eliminating the dieting will solve the problem. To be clear, this is obviously a physical struggle (due to crash dieting), not a mental one (disorder-wise).
    Well my pleasure eating isn’t like that. It’s not forced. It’s because I want to.

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    Originally Posted by mustlovedogs
    Well my pleasure eating isn’t like that. It’s not forced. It’s because I want to.
    I would think this selection would be quite pleasurable to eat: "So, mostly on Saturdays, I binge eat a lot starting at 7AM once I wake up. I literally eat A LOT. Biscuits, chocolates, ice cream, instant noodles, and candies for breakfast. Then for lunch I would take out McDonalds or KFC and order A LOT of meals. After that, I treat myself by drinking a grande size frappe from starbucks and a piece of cake"

    You think she forces herself to eat these tasty morsels? I am getting hungry just looking at it and I am full! Alas, they aren't in my place ;)

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    Originally Posted by yatsue
    I would think this selection would be quite pleasurable to eat: "So, mostly on Saturdays, I binge eat a lot starting at 7AM once I wake up. I literally eat A LOT. Biscuits, chocolates, ice cream, instant noodles, and candies for breakfast. Then for lunch I would take out McDonalds or KFC and order A LOT of meals. After that, I treat myself by drinking a grande size frappe from starbucks and a piece of cake"

    You think she forces herself to eat these tasty morsels? I am getting hungry just looking at it and I am full! Alas, they aren't in my place ;)
    Yeah... I do. Who eats multiple meals? Without forcing themselves to go?

    For most people, I think a really cheating cheat day would be eating a bad breakfast, bad lunch, and bad dinner - not 3x the meals they’re supposed to have in a day

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    Originally Posted by mustlovedogs
    Yeah... I do. Who eats multiple meals? Without forcing themselves to go?

    For most people, I think a really cheating cheat day would be eating a bad breakfast, bad lunch, and bad dinner - not 3x the meals they’re supposed to have in a day
    Those who crash diet and appear to have a poor regular diet (rice, listed binge foods). It is a typical physical outcome, not a mental health issue (aka a disorder) in the least. She can achieve healthier results with focusing on improving her diet by removing tempting foods from her residence, eliminating empty calories, and eating a balanced/diverse diet which will curb such physical cravings. Going to the gym also helps a great deal.

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    I can't bring that stuff into my home. No self contril

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    Originally Posted by yatsue
    Those who crash diet and appear to have a poor regular diet (rice, listed binge foods). It is a typical physical outcome, not a mental health issue (aka a disorder) in the least. She can achieve healthier results with focusing on improving her diet by removing tempting foods from her residence, eliminating empty calories, and eating a balanced/diverse diet which will curb such physical cravings. Going to the gym also helps a great deal.
    I agree... all I’m saying is NOT normal is that she’s “forcing” herself to eat beyond the point she feels dull. THAT is all I think is weird.

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    Originally Posted by mustlovedogs
    Yeah... I do. Who eats multiple meals? Without forcing themselves to go?
    Me!me! :)

    You wouldn't believe how much I eat when I binge.

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