mustlovedogs Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Hello, eNA! I have posted a few times about my career search - thank you all for the help! I've been having a lot more luck lately and have four follow-up interviews next week. YAY! Additionally, I was told I'm going to get an offer for a role I discovered I'm not very interested in. But, all in all, things are looking up. Here's my question: I had a phone interview last week with a small company (i.e., I'd be employee 2) and the whole thing has me nervous. During the interview he mentioned how he recently fired an employee but he didn't want to talk about it. Ok, that's fair. But then he gave me a fairly extensive assignment: research a potential project he's working on and prepare an in-depth research report detailing the engineering, supply chain, manufacturing, and operational considerations. This would include working with a small company's BOD, interviewing subject matter experts, researching current industry technology, identifying gaps in tech, proposing other applications, etc. I sincerely think this could take 10-15 hours at a minimum. Now, I understand it takes work to find a job. But I'm concerned about this guy's expectations of his employees. It feels like an awful lot for a candidate to do. Not to mention, if I don't reply to one of his emails within 4 or so hours, he sends another one. I had to tell him I'm busy interviewing (which I am!). But I'm concerned he expects his employees to be at his beck and call, all the time. Sooooo. My question: given I have 4 other very promising options, is it appropriate to back out of this process? If yes, how do I do this gracefully without burning a bridge? Link to comment
RainyCoast Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 so basically, do the work that is part of his project? sounds like he's trying to get someone to do his work for him for free. does he intend to publish his findings? would you be credited? Link to comment
mustlovedogs Posted May 18, 2017 Author Share Posted May 18, 2017 so basically, do the work that is part of his project? sounds like he's trying to get someone to do his work for him for free. does he intend to publish his findings? would you be credited? ^ exactly my thoughts. No publishing, but this is venture capital, so he would use it as a basis to either value a company or pitch a proposal to a company, or something. But yes, he basically wants me to evaluate a potential project he's working on. Link to comment
j.man Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 "Small company" with one employee. Ask for his EIN. Guarantee you never hear from him again. Never mind the other shady **** and unprofessionalism ("I fired someone. Don't wanna talk about it"). Honestly sounds like an oDesk scam. Don't do his work for free. Forego the extortion and stick with your other three follow-ups. Link to comment
RainyCoast Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 During the interview he mentioned how he recently fired an employee but he didn't want to talk about it. what do you think that was about? intimidation of sorts...? he said he fired someone, you went "how so'", he went i don't wanna taco bout it...? so fishy. Link to comment
mustlovedogs Posted May 18, 2017 Author Share Posted May 18, 2017 Phew ok fantastic. I'm glad the consensus is it's a little weird. I don't want to seem ungrateful for the opportunity - but the whole thing is strange. Link to comment
j.man Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Phew ok fantastic. I'm glad the consensus is it's a little weird. I don't want to seem ungrateful for the opportunity - but the whole thing is strange.On the extreme off chance he's got a connection or two in the field, don't do what I'd do, which would be to send a PDF of my morning dump. Link to comment
mustlovedogs Posted May 18, 2017 Author Share Posted May 18, 2017 On the extreme off chance he's got a connection or two in the field, don't do what I'd do, which would be to send a PDF of my morning dump. Hahaha. I like it. Ok. I'm thinking of sending an email tomorrow saying something about I am busy interviewing, don't have the time to dedicate to this project, appreciate the opportunity, etc etc, but it's best if I remove myself from the process. Is that reasonable? Link to comment
j.man Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Hahaha. I like it. Ok. I'm thinking of sending an email tomorrow saying something about I am busy interviewing, don't have the time to dedicate to this project, appreciate the opportunity, etc etc, but it's best if I remove myself from the process. Is that reasonable?Beyond so. I honestly wouldn't even bother corresponding to convey that much. Link to comment
Batya33 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 I would not take the bait either -it sounds off/weird. Sure, giving in a writing sample is one thing but doing actual work, unpaid -nope. Good luck on your follow up interviews! Link to comment
chitown9 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 He wants you to do a lot of work for him for free. Gee...what a guy! I would want to burn my bridges on this place! chi Link to comment
mustlovedogs Posted May 18, 2017 Author Share Posted May 18, 2017 Fantastic. I appreciate all the responses! I'm glad you all agree this is a bit off. Also, thank you Batya! Link to comment
Batya33 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Fantastic. I appreciate all the responses! I'm glad you all agree this is a bit off. Also, thank you Batya! This kind of thing happened to a friend of mine- the interviewer was starting an on line magazine. My friend was going to be one of the editors. The interviewer made a number of people "offers" but the payment was going to be per project. So they all had to participate in a several hour long "orientation" by phone/skype and then she kept delaying giving out assignments. when she finally did she changed the terms - my friend would have to go out and find the experts who would write the articles, not just edit them. Which she did not have the resources for. And of course she was never paid for orientation or anything. I'm sure there are a lot of these "start ups" or loose working arrangements where they're essentially looking to brainstorm/get free work. Link to comment
melancholy123 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Hahaha. I like it. Ok. I'm thinking of sending an email tomorrow saying something about I am busy interviewing, don't have the time to dedicate to this project, appreciate the opportunity, etc etc, but it's best if I remove myself from the process. Is that reasonable? Yes do that. I think he wants you to do his work for him. Link to comment
mustlovedogs Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share Posted May 19, 2017 Most people in RL have said about what you are all saying but one friend said I can't turn down job opportunities and then complain about interviews... thank you all for confirming this Link to comment
Hell_On_Heels Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Most people in RL have said about what you are all saying but one friend said I can't turn down job opportunities and then complain about interviews... thank you all for confirming this Here's an interesting article on that. Wishing you the very best in your job hunt. Link to comment
mustlovedogs Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share Posted May 19, 2017 Thank you! That's a good article. We spoke in the interview of this specific project and I talked about things I would consider, who I would talk to, etc - which at least showed my thought process. I would be ok if it was a shorter assignment (like the article says). Link to comment
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