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    Sperm donation gone wrong

    Prior to meeting my boyfriend he donated sperm to two lesbians. He was living with them at the time...long story short he had been on meth for years and wanted to straighten his life out. They gave him a place to stay in return for him donating to them. This has been suggested by his sister, who was bestfriends with one of the lesbians. They eventually formed a friendship and him and I had met through work.
    We started dating and he was gradually spending most of his nights at my house. He had taken me to meet them and I was very open to the situation, I even got attached to the child. At this point he was known as Juan to the child, not Dad. I noticed when he was spending less time with them they began texting him saying they wanted to see more of him and also asked him if he would have a problem with the little one calling him Dad. He said he would not mind at all, and I wasn't positive that our relationship was a forever thing at that point...so I pretty much stayed out of that. The child was approximately 5 months around this time. Shortly there after I had found out I was pregnant and the women began messaging me about how exicted they were for their little girl to have a sibling.
    This is the moment everything changed for me. Wait a minute. So my child's father is going to be a father in two separate households? How will I explain this to my children? I didn't want to mix our families what so ever. Although it bothered me I just let my feelings sit for a while, until they asked for him to donate to them while I was pregnant with our baby.
    Another red flag...are they intentionally trying to make their mark on our relationship? Anyway it all boiled down to us all sitting down and discussing the uncomfortable topics. He told them no that he didn't want to donate again and also that the whole Dad role needed to chill. Based upon my request. Am I crazy for having these feelings? This little girl has a Mom and a Dad, both of them just happen to be women. After I spoke on the subject and described why I felt it was a bad move to continue his role as Dad...they then got upset and said I wasn't allowed at their house anymore. I clearly stated that we can all still hang out and spend time together but as two separate households. I also said that if they wanted him to play Dad that he needed to have some sort of Dad responsibility. Like the little girl coming to stay the night with us...so she wouldn't feel like her Dad spent time with this other family and rarely spent time with her.
    After some time blew over they began texting him, saying I was just some girl that came into his life and his child with them all of the sudden didn't mean anything to him. They also said that he wanted to have his cake and eat it too...which I didn't clearly understand unless they were trying to make him feel bad about having another life outside of them.
    It has been almost a year now and I still have not heard a single thing from them. They talk to him about everything and exclude me. He has made nice with them and the whole thing just makes me sick to my stomach. I know they were here first, but things changed and got weird after I had been in the picture. No regard for my feelings were ever taken into consideration. I just am beyond over it. I have no idea what my next step should be. If I'm being irrational...no idea. He makes me feel like I'm crazy for having the feelings that I do. They have all tried to arrange a sit down but I won't do it. The lesbians didn't personally reach out to me like adults and apologize for the misunderstanding. The main thing that made them upset was me saying he should have responsibility for the child. They think nobody in the world besides them is capable of raising their child. They want him to be the father, but on their terms. I am to my breaking point. Any advice from someone on the outside?

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    I honestly think your reaction was incredibly selfish. Although the baby was being raised by them they had an agreement for him to be part of their life, for you to just step in and make demands like that when they already had this dynamic in place.

    Shortly there after I had found out I was pregnant and the women began messaging me about how exicted they were for their little girl to have a sibling.
    This is the moment everything changed for me. Wait a minute. So my child's father is going to be a father in two separate households? How will I explain this to my children? I didn't want to mix our families what so ever.
    This is very selfish all I hear is 'me me me what I want'. There are all types of families these days, you tell your children the truth I don't get why that's such a difficult concept. People parent in two homes all the time in instances of divorce, having multiple mother's to their child etc. They wanted him to be a part of his child's life which is very kind, not a lot of people afford someone that right, no matter what the circumstances of the babies birth.

    I really don't think they need to apologize for anything. They didn't do anything wrong except allowing him to play a role in her life.

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    Originally Posted by Robin2904
    I honestly think your reaction was incredibly selfish. Although the baby was being raised by them they had an agreement for him to be part of their life, for you to just step in and make demands like that when they already had this dynamic in place.



    This is very selfish all I hear is 'me me me what I want'. There are all types of families these days, you tell your children the truth I don't get why that's such a difficult concept. People parent in two homes all the time in instances of divorce, having multiple mother's to their child etc. They wanted him to be a part of his child's life which is very kind, not a lot of people afford someone that right, no matter what the circumstances of the babies birth.

    I really don't think they need to apologize for anything. They didn't do anything wrong except allowing him to play a role in her life.
    I disagree. In divorce, each parent gets to establish his or her own household and raise the child as he / she sees fit. In this case, the couple is requiring that he be at their house, raising their child according to their direction. I wonder what was spelled out at the beginning - donor, or housemate for 19 years? It seems to me that are the couple, he is the temporary figure. Let him go, establish his own household, and act more like an uncle.

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    I think you are looking at this wrong. First of all, you knew he had this kid when you got pregnant -- which means you chose to have a baby with someone who already had one. Then you decided that he shouldn't be father to another baby and that there is no way you wanted to combine families. I think this is foolish. If you really wanted a baby with someone who had no other children, you should have picked someone like that. Making his relationship with this kid harder is only going to eventually boomerang on you.
    Also, these women initially showed a lot of interest in your baby -- that is a good thing. Why not have more people around who love your kid? And children really enjoy having siblings and will probably enjoy each other. Limiting the amount of love in someone's life seems silly.
    You walked into this with eyes wide open and then changed your mind. This doesn't have to be full of negatives. It could full of positives.

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    I guess I should have added that him and I came to an agreement that he would discuss with them the possibility of the lesbians drop her off at our house for play time so he can see her. He has yet to do it but the thing is, they don't trust him. Which they have no reason not to. It has nothing to do with the little girl, I love her. They just made it extremely clear that I don't fit into their idea of how it should be. So I'm not ignoring the fact that this little girl is alive. I want her to be involved with our children. Just not on a sibling basis. That's fine if you disagree, you aren't the one experiencing it first hand. There are a lot of details left out as well. Thanks for your input though.

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    Originally Posted by Schotjes
    I guess I should have added that him and I came to an agreement that he would discuss with them the possibility of the lesbians drop her off at our house for play time so he can see her. He has yet to do it but the thing is, they don't trust him. Which they have no reason not to. It has nothing to do with the little girl, I love her. They just made it extremely clear that I don't fit into their idea of how it should be. So I'm not ignoring the fact that this little girl is alive. I want her to be involved with our children. Just not on a sibling basis. That's fine if you disagree, you aren't the one experiencing it first hand. There are a lot of details left out as well. Thanks for your input though.
    You can't change them, and you can't demand trust or respect from anyone. Those things are earned. If you want them to trust their child in your home, then I suggest you write them a thoughtful note telling them you see now how nice it is for your children to have each other, for your families to be how they are with love binding everyone together. Also, support his involvement at their house. Come yourself. Invest in their child.

    Make this about creating more love in the world, and change your expectations to match what you have (one key to happiness, in general).

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    The fact IS your children ARE siblings. They share the same father. They ARE blood siblings. Keeping them apart will bite you on the backside someday.

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    Honestly, this kind of situation is why if you're going to donate you go to the bank and do it that way. Right now if they decided they wanted child support from him, they could do that. If they decided to never let him near the child again, they could do that. Because this has happened withouth clearly delineated boundaries and now they're getting blurred.


    There are a lot of details left out as well.
    That doesn't really work when you're asking for advice. It's best to put as much detail in as possible.

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    Originally Posted by agent
    Honestly, this kind of situation is why if you're going to donate you go to the bank and do it that way. Right now if they decided they wanted child support from him, they could do that. If they decided to never let him near the child again, they could do that. Because this has happened withouth clearly delineated boundaries and now they're getting blurred.



    That doesn't really work when you're asking for advice. It's best to put as much detail in as possible.
    Yes! Was thinking previously how exposed he is, and also how confused everyone is about the arrangement. It would have helped to spell out the expectations in an agreement before hand, but given his history of addiction and their willingness to move him in as payment for a donation without further details, I sense there is a certain amount of chaos here that makes a legal arrangement beyond reach.

    OP, if your bf can get to a place where he writes down what he understands is the agreement and shares it with them, that might help force everyone to clarify, even the words say "for the next 6 months, after which time parties will revisit this agreement and make adjustments as mutually agreeable at that time."

    Also, he can begin to have some control by having a set schedule, such as,he comes by the house every Saturday morning and two mid week meals after work. Or whatever -

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    This is very interesting! I have never heard of such dynamic.

    I don't have much advice other then, keep cool and carry on. Eventually the kids will have some relationship considering they share the same dad. Sounds like the women are acting like they own the baby daddy and as if he is part of their relationship.

    Idk this hurts my head! I hope it gets situated. What a stressful situation.

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