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Thread: Mistrust in a relationship. To snoop or not?

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    Mistrust in a relationship. To snoop or not?

    There's been a few threads on ENA recently that I've found fascinating and have really got me thinking about the issue of snooping on a partner, when you don't trust them. The general consensus always seems to be that snooping is always wrong, without exception, but I'm not sure if that's right, so I'd love to hear other people's thoughts.

    Now first off I should say that I'm single at the moment out of choice, am enjoying casual dating and have also had several very long, very successful relationships in the past and I have never snooped on anyone before (luckily I've never had reason to). But with that said, I can totally see why people would do it, and maybe even should do it, if they have solid reason to believe something's going on.

    If I was in a relationship with someone and started getting the feeling that she was messing around behind my back, surely I'd need solid proof before I confronted her about it and looked like a jealous psycho, so unless that proof was forthcoming, wouldn't the only way to get it be by snooping?

    When I say "getting the feeling that she was messing around", I don't just mean if I had a hunch that something was up. I mean if I was seeing plenty of the tried and tested warning signs of cheating. In that instance, if I confronted her about it, in an ideal world she'd tell the truth, but it's far more likely she'd just lie and leave me with two choices - I could either trust her and maybe set myself up for much bigger heartache in the long run, or I could go with my gut and ditch her and run the risk of dumping an innocent woman.

    Obviously the first step should always be to discuss the situation with your partner ("how come you came home without your underwear this evening", "why do your clothes smell of aftershave" etc but failing that, isn't it better to be sure of your accusations before throwing them out there and maybe destroying a relationship just because you got your facts wrong? Many cheaters will continue cheating for as long as they can (trust me, I know plenty of cheaters) and, short of catching them with their pants down or them leaving you for the other person, you may never know for sure, so surely some investigation is not only OK, but is actually pretty essential?

    What do you all think? Hopefully none of us will ever have to face this quandary up close, but I think it's a pretty interesting subject, as I've seen many people get cheated on and most of them could've easily caught their cheating partners in the act with just a bit of research and saved themselves years of being taken advantage of.
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    Don't ever snoop! What's important is whether you feel trust in this person and that's about it. If trust is one of your issues, and you break it off with everyone because you think they *did* something to you; then go to the therapist and work it out there. Not in your dating life!

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    I think most people will take the moral high ground when they're giving you advice on the internet, but most people would snoop in a heartbeat if they really felt in their gut that something was going on.

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    I look at it this way: once your partner starts acting in a way that causes you concern or mistrust, s/he is giving you carte blanche to snoop.

    I am not saying look at your boyfriend's phone if he comes home late once every three months or if he's going out with the guys. I'm saying if he becomes evasive, says he's "going to the store" but his phone is off and he takes 10 hours to get there and come back, and continually acts with suspicious behavior, then you'd be justified to look.

    Take my example: my ex and I had a sort of on-again-off-again thing for a year or so after we broke up. He invited me to stay with him on vacation for two weeks and I gladly accepted. That whole time we acted like a couple--I even picked out his new kitchen and new furniture for his home. He took me to lunch with his aunt, the works. Then three days before I was supposed to leave, he takes a phone call in secret in his bedroom. I overhear him say, "hey, Silvia!" and he comes out to the living room and tells me he's going on a trip overnight with another girl. Um, what? So you can have me over your house, make love to me and then expect me to be okay with this? Nuh-uh.

    So the night before he left, I looked in his phone and saw all their messages back and forth. I was completely justified, he flipped out, saying "now I know what kind of a person you are!" and I said to him, "at least I'm not the kind of person who invites her ex over, makes love to her for two weeks and then two-times her with some random dude." He shut up real fast. That is just disregard for me as a human being, plain and simple.

    (Justified) snooping < two-timing. That's how I always see it.

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    If you can't trust your partner, you shouldn't be with them at all. Plain and simple. But we all know it rarely ever is that simple

    In my last relationship, I also felt like something was up but I didn't have anything to go off of. Luckily, my ex wasn't good about covering his tracks because I found out pretty easily that he was being shady behind my back.

    After that incident, I would sometimes have the urge to go through his computer if he left it laying around but I just couldn't do it. I felt bad invading his privacy, like I was his mother making sure he was behaving. He's a grown adult, he can make his own decisions. My role in the relationship was to TRUST him, not patrol his every move. I wanted to just believe he wasn't talking to other girls or whatever it was he did in those chat rooms. I only looked through his computer a few times after that and each time I would find something disturbing, I didn't want to bring it up in fear of losing him. So I just suppressed it and pretended like I never saw it. Big mistake.

    But every relationship is different and sometimes it really is nothing, then you're the one who broke your partner's trust by snooping. Suddenly tables are turned. It has to be done knowing that it could very well make or break the relationship. And it really is something that cannot be defined as right or wrong, it changes with each situation. I just know that it isn't natural to do it and if there is no trust then there is no relationship.

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    If you are confronting the person on several occasions and they are denying it and you just can't seem to get any answers. Hell yeah, snoop!..lol..it's not morally right, but it's best to know then to wait and find out. Yeah, you may feel bad, but it's got to be done. Once you have the proof, you can decide to stay based on other circumstances (married, kids, share morgage) or move the hell on. I ususally choose the latter. Once I find out you been unfaithful, I'm done! I wouldn't stay with a person to continue the snooping, it's not healthy and I don't recommend it. But sometimes you have to in certain cases. In my case, my ex was lying and I had to. He didn't cheat, but he was still talking to an ex and hiding it. I mean he could lie his azz off. The only way I could get him to admit was to show proof. My god. Can't be with someone that lies all the way up till the very end and until you have to show proof of photos and emails..
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    Yeah, if you find someone is being unfaithful, you have to confront and then leave.

    Once you two-time me, you're dead to me. Zero tolerance and zero forgiveness. It's a wrap, Jack.

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    Originally Posted by camus154
    I think most people will take the moral high ground when they're giving you advice on the internet, but most people would snoop in a heartbeat if they really felt in their gut that something was going on.
    In this age of instant access, it's a hard temptation. But does that make it right? Everyone has their own moral compass. But if the roles were reverse and you were not at fault, you'd be pissed.

    A relationship should not require a background check anytime one partner starts getting worried.

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    Originally Posted by danny2020
    If I was in a relationship with someone and started getting the feeling that she was messing around behind my back, surely I'd need solid proof before I confronted her about it and looked like a jealous psycho, so unless that proof was forthcoming, wouldn't the only way to get it be by snooping?
    Nope. Not in my opinion, anyways.

    If you were with someone and you started to get the feeling that she was messing around behind your back... stop! Right there you have a problem. Even if it's completely innocent - you still have a problem. She is behaving in ways that makes you feel uncomfortable.

    If the problem is that she is out drinking and coming home without her underwear... there is a problem. Why is she out drinking like that? Why is she not wearing underwear? Why are you not with her? Addressing this issue alone (if she's cheating) will drive her nuts (because you are cutting off the cheating path).

    And then there's the problem of trust. If you trust your partner and she tells you it's because she peed her pants or something... you would believe it! But the fact that you don't believe it is another problem... perhaps there are other things that she is doing that is making you uncomfortable? Does she have a history of lying? Problem.

    I think the bottom line is that you shouldn't feel insecure in a relationship. If he/she is acting in shady ways that is making you insecure... there are problems. And really... as you try to address the surrounding issues, you will cut them off of the cheating path... which... if they are intent on cheating, will frustrate them and cause them to break up with you. (Good!)

    If you snoop, you may or may not find evidence, but you still have a root problem. The ONLY way it works out is if you find something... but I argue that you can flush this out anyways. If you are THAT convinced that you are willing to resort to breaking someone's privacy... maybe you should just take the high road and walk away.

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    "I could either trust her and maybe set myself up for much bigger heartache in the long run, or I could go with my gut and ditch her and run the risk of dumping an innocent woman."

    This what you said here is the meat of it all.....And there would be no way of finding the truth unless you snooped. There's an old saying that goes,"trust,but verify"...I'd much rather do a little snooping to verify than walk around wondering if I was with a cheater. And I'd much rather do a little snooping to verify instead of dumping someone that I love whom is trustworthy....

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