Established Men Pay $$$ For Women

There was a show on Tyra Banks a few back regarding women who get paid by so called 'established' (aka rich) men to join them on dates, be around, travel, etc.

On the show, a young college student related that she had an older sugar daddy who paid for her 25k tuition, luxury apartment, vacations, and even got her a credit card. She also added that she did not have any sexual relations with this man.

I find this extremely hard to believe.

So, she finds a man who is throwing away thousands of dollars on her just for her presence? I find this so hard to believe.

Then there came on a bunch of other 'sugar babies' who claimed the same thing- the men spent thousands on them without a single sexual act in return.

So, questions:

Women, if you were struggling financially to pay off your tuition, or rent, or whatever else, would you fancy the idea of having a sugar daddy, given no sex involved?

If there was sex involved, would you still do it for free tuition, free rent, or whatever else in your life that needed dire financial assistance?

Be honest, I know many will come on here judging, but I do not find this as disturbing since both parties- the sugar daddy and sugar baby- are in this agreement.

Men and women, what do you think are the psychological reason(s) behind these men's actions? Meaning, spending thousands of dollars on these women?

Do you think these men have insecurity issues in that they don't think a woman will like them for them but more for their money?

Do you think some of these men get an ego boost out of throwing away their money like that?

Since all of these women were very attractive, do you think these men believe they cannot, without their money, attract a beautiful woman?

What do you think are the reasons why sugar babies pursue such men, asides from financial struggles?

Lastly, I think it's important to be less harsh on both parties.

One young woman on the show said that at the end of the day, she didn't feel good about herself- having to depend solely on a man- and felt inadequate as far as her ambition and intellect. She said she felt that she could have done better career wise, but her lack of faith in her own abilities led her down here.

Do any of you know of anybody in such arrangements?

Comments, etc.

OK, those girls are not going to admit on television they are taking money from these men for sexual services because that is prostitution which is illegal and they'd have the police knocking at their door 20 minutes after the show airs. So would any rich men they identify. So they will 'swear' they aren't having sex when of course they are! These are nothing but old fashioned mistresses getting paid to be mistresses or high class hookers. Sex may not be involved in every encounter they have if the men want some arm candy for a business affair, but they WILL be having sex when they feel like it.

And think about this logically. If all a rich man wanted was a young GF, he wouldn't have to pay women to be his GF. They just be his GF, have sex with him, and he would 'gift' them with whatever he pleased as her BF.

You need to understand that most reality TV is truly faked, not real, for sensational purposes. And next to no women are going to admit openly on TV that they are paid mistresses or high class hookers for fear of arrest or being ostracized socially. It is true that throughout history men are willing to pay for sex and also that rich men have mistresses and young GFs for sex and attention and reward them with money. That is nothing new or suprirsing at all. But the idea that there are lots of rich men waiting to lavish money on young girls and NOT have sex? I don't think so! Perhaps if he is a guy with a fetish like he likes to worship women's pretty feet but not have sex with her, maybe. But there aren't too many other cases than that, and that in itself IS a form of sexual gratification that the girl is participating in for him.

But the idea that a bunch of rich men will be out there waiting to take young girls out, pay them a lot of money and NOT have sex with them? Very very rare if not ridiculous. Most rich and famous men have legions of beautiful women lining up to try to get with them romantically and financially, but they want to be their GFs and have a real relationship that might lead to marriage.

btw, i personally know several rich man who are NOT attractive and they ended up with trophy GFs and wives and had beautiful women fighting to be with them and they don't need to pay girls to NOT have sex with them. And i even know a man who is quite attractive and charming who found and married a not very attractive but rich woman himself! So rich people don't have to work at all to find attractive people to date. As soon as someone knows they have money, the attractive women come out of the woodwork looking for them.

Gold diggers of both sexes are as old as the hills, but sex is almost universally involved in getting that gold, especially since the advent of Viagra!

btw, of course i would fancy the idea of ANYBODY paying my bills and solving my financial problems, everybody would, but i would NEVER sell myself to do so, whether that is sexually or my time being tied to someone I didn't love because he paid my rent. And those who work all sell themselves for 8 hours a day to their employers, but they maintain both their freedom and free hours off otherwise, and the company can't evict them, only fire them!

It is never wise to be financial dependent on anymore, espeically with so nebulous a connection to the man. I hope these girls are banking any gifts these men are giving them, because once the man loses interest or a new girl catches their eye, they girl is out on her ear and with no skills to support herself. Who wants an old hooker... nobody!

That's definitely true. A rich man will not have to try that hard to find a beautiful woman. At the same time, I think the relationship is not that great to begin with.

She's with him for the money, if he loses his money, she might leave. But the love is highly conditional. At the end of the day, does he truly feel happy in this relationship? Is it truly love? Not that she couldn't develop feelings for him and love him but once the money is gone, will she still be as devoted to him? Or when her looks fade...? Seems superficial on both parties.

That's definitely true. A rich man will not have to try that hard to find a beautiful woman. At the same time, I think the relationship is not that great to begin with.

She's with him for the money, if he loses his money, she might leave. But the love is highly conditional. At the end of the day, does he truly feel happy in this relationship? Is it truly love? Not that she couldn't develop feelings for him and love him but once the money is gone, will she still be as devoted to him? Or when her looks fade...? Seems superficial on both parties.

Rich men might find beautiful women to use them for their money but that definition of "beautiful" only refers to looks, right? Certainly not beautiful on the inside. Agree with Lavender. And no I would never be with someone based on money. And I felt that way -about being financially independent - for at least the last 30 years, when I started planning for my future career(s).

Rich men might find beautiful women to use them for their money but that definition of "beautiful" only refers to looks, right? Certainly not beautiful on the inside. Agree with Lavender. And no I would never be with someone based on money. And I felt that way -about being financially independent - for at least the last 30 years, when I started planning for my future career(s).

That none of us know. Every case is different. There are insecure rich man out there who base their worth on money, and that's it.

I don't believe that every beautiful sugar baby is ugly on the inside. Maybe some come from broken homes, where the father was absent, or was skimping on child support, etc. Then she finds this man who lavishes her with gifts and attention- something she did not receive from her father. She could be a genuine, caring person, or a cruel gold digger.

Rich men might find beautiful women to use them for their money but that definition of "beautiful" only refers to looks, right? Certainly not beautiful on the inside. Agree with Lavender. And no I would never be with someone based on money. And I felt that way -about being financially independent - for at least the last 30 years, when I started planning for my future career(s).

Look at geishas. They were instructed in the art of dance, painting, singing, conversation, they knew how to play at least one instrument, etc. So they weren't just a pretty face.

You must understand, when one is rich, they may do what ever they wish...

If they want sex, they go find someone and pay them for it.

Not everything, though, is about sex. There is that element of emotional fulfillment.

Or how about that element of feeling good about doing something for someone they could not otherwise do for themselves?

I would not be surprised, per say, to enounter such a thing.

If I were ridiculously wealthy myself, I could indeed see myself doing such a thing. What's $100,000 to a $100,000,000 portfolio that makes a Measily $4,000,000 per year just sitting in an interest bearing account?

Rich men might find beautiful women to use them for their money but that definition of "beautiful" only refers to looks, right? Certainly not beautiful on the inside. Agree with Lavender. And no I would never be with someone based on money. And I felt that way -about being financially independent - for at least the last 30 years, when I started planning for my future career(s).

I have yet to find any meaningful relationship between looks and personality. I've met those who were absolutely beautiful on the outside, and utter ice queens within. I've met those who were ugly outside who were absolutely sweet within. But then again, I have met some who are absolutely smoking hot on the outside, and are the sweetest people you'll ever meet on the inside - and I've met some ugly people who are outright hideous on the inside too.

I'm to the point of thinking that those who say "eh, he's just with her For Her Looks" are part of the "ugly" crowd. They're not happy for her; they're jealous or envious. These are not "pretty" qualities.

One man I knew married a gorgeous girl 25 years younger and he was extremely in love and devoted to her... and honestly, she was quite shallow and in it for the money though she played the 'i love you daddy' routine to the hilt, until he turned 65 and was ready to retire and be at home with her all the time. Then she 'suddenly' instead fell in love with a boy toy tennis instructer and ran off with him and took half the man's money because they'd been married for 20 years and she'd never worked. She loved her life when he was rarely around and busily working earning all that money that kept her in style and let her life be a whirl of shopping and fun, but once he wanted to be around her 24x7 in retirement, she was gone, and gone with a big chunk of his money! He is quite bitter about the whole experience now because he thought she did love him and would take care of him in his old age, but she wanted none of that, only his money and the big lifestyle! Once he'd accumuluated enough for her to take half and still live that live on her own with a younger man, she bolted.

Most rich men these days are smart enough to get prenups so the women doesn't profit so much from leaving him, or he can leave her for a new trophy easily if he wants.

The man i know who married a rich woman is an ex of mine in fact, who still to this day calls me and wants me to see him but of course i say no... i have ZERO respect for anyone who sells out for money, especially anyone who sells ME out for money!

Most people who are willing to do this do so because they are selfish or lazy or want to be taken care of and are NOT doing it because they have no other means to support themselves... it is because they want to live an easy life and not work for it, so most have very little character. That is not to say that some women don't fall in love with rich men just for themselves and for love because that happens too, but usually they are not the stunners that get bought by money. There are many wealthy men who also have their original wives before they were rich, or marry women who are not necessarily stunning but are great people who fell in love.

So mistresses and trophy GFs/wives are not necessarily what ALL rich men do, but many do get them because they can and they have enough money to get away with it.

She lived with him for 20 years,many marriages don't last that long so i would not be so fast in judging her.No money in the world could make any sane woman stay with someone they don't love for 20 years...her best years are still gone to him

But when you marry a woman much younger than you are,you have to be prepared for anything.Marry instead within your own generation..sure they say age does not matter,but well,,it does

She lived with him for 20 years,many marriages don't last that long so i would not be so fast in judging her.No money in the world could make any sane woman stay with someone they don't love for 20 years...her best years are still gone to him

 

But when you marry a woman much younger than you are,you have to be prepared for anything.Marry instead within your own generation..sure they say age does not matter,but well,,it does

 

Or as Tiger Wood's own father advised, Don't Get Married. Ever. You don't need a wife to be rich. Children, perhaps, but a wife? Unnecessary...

Or as Tiger Wood's own father advised, Don't Get Married. Ever. You don't need a wife to be rich. Children, perhaps, but a wife? Unnecessary...

maybe,but then you get old and alone...and then end up with a young hot girl (if you are rich) that will take half of your everything

No thanks. I would never prostitute myself for anything. I paid my own tuition and rent and everything else.

Lots of assumptions in this thread...

A close friend dates lots of rich men and for the most part, they are quite sweet. One of her relationships lasted for (I believe) 6-7 months and it was probably the best relationship she's had. They were very happy and dealt with cOnclicts constructively. She's quite young and the age gap was roughly 30 years.

It's a real relationship.

He just happens to be rich and she just haPpens to be young and beautiful.

I know many relationships like this. I also know of relationships where money and beauty were the main commodities. She stayed with him as long as he has money and he stays with her as long as she's beautiful and puts out. Their relationship wasn't cold other than that. They knew they weren't in love and weren't looking. They were satisfied with what they had and genuinely had a friendship, cared about each other.

It's not like prostitution.

I also know many women who married rich men, but we're genuinely in love with them. My step mOm being one of them, lol. Or they eventually love them and genuinely care for them (but not in love).

Actually, i can judge her because i knew her... she married him for the money... one of those survivor types who lived to shop and spend money... she wasn't bright intellectually, but knew how to play men... He was in love and she was in love with money...

she left because she had no intention of being tied down at home with an old man. She was fine with it as long as he was an executive who was constantly working and travelling and just dropped a big paycheck for her to spend any way she pleased, but once he was retired and able to be with her 24x7, she didn't want that at all.

She waited to divorce to 20 years because that is when the big score is in divorce courts for women who never worked... once she's been married 20 years and he supported her the whole time and she's in her 40s, the woman usually gets half his retirement account and half the goods. If she'd left him sooner than that she wouldn't have gotten nearly as much and the judge would have only given her temporary alimony to learn a skill to get a job which she didn't want. Over 40 they frequently get lifetime alimony or a very large lump sum.

So this was calculated on her part, and he was basically blindsided and really bitter about it. But then he left his first wife and family high and dry for her. so both were selfish in their own ways.

I personally have little respect for people who see relationships as 'commodity' opportunities... that's a different mindset and lifestyle than one i'd be willing to live, but to each his or her own...

Exactly...

Well judge all you want and respect as little as you'd like, I'm just saying there are other senarios than those described in this thread. Usually the arrangement is apparent to both parties.

I just think there are much worse things in life than being happy in a relationship where both parties understand the fine print.

^^

I understand what you're saying, but that sort of writes off the idea that people do have feelings as well and emotions get involved and people get really hurt. What I see happening over time is one person is in love (or more in love) while the other sees it as more a means to improve lifestyle... then when the person in it for the money falls in love with someone their own age and either leaves or cheats, the person in love is really hurt.

People may logically 'understand the fine print', but emotions don't always stay in bounds or respect the fine print. Some people who are very callous about love or who are emotionally unavailable may be fine with these types of relationships, but many on either side of the equation end up very bitter or jaded in the end when they are being seen as a 'function' providing 'goods' rather than loved and respected as a person.

What i've seen is that it usually works FOR A WHILE then it ends badly for one or the other. The young girl can get tossed on the street in a moment's notice if the man tires of her, and the older man can feels used and angry when he realizes it's about the money for her.

That happens with or without the involvement of money all the time, though. We see it all the time here..

That happens with or without the involvement of money all the time, though. We see it all the time here..

Good points you make.

It can start off as a means to get money, yet end up differently....Meaning she may start off being in it solely for the money and eventually end up falling in love with him, etc.

Good points you make.

It can start off as a means to get money, yet end up differently....Meaning she may start off being in it solely for the money and eventually end up falling in love with him, etc.

Or they are both lookin for relationships, but unlike the typical standards we have, they also have rich on the list. Lol that's usually how it is - the relationships I personally know anyway. You have to realize these men who are filthy rich, they are not dumb. They didn't get rich by being stupid and poor judges of characters.

The chance of them getting used and blind sided is very slim. I know of none out of .. Well a lot of gold digging type of relationships I know of, lol.

So this was calculated on her part, and he was basically blindsided and really bitter about it. But then he left his first wife and family high and dry for her. so both were selfish in their own ways.

oh well then you know what they say about karma

I am sure these old men are getting all up in that. Not many will admit to family & friends that they are servicing rich men for cash. They took the opportunity to brag, but not make themselves look that dirty in the process, its fit their type of character to display themselves that way. Plus, i doubt a person who is rich, who probably has a sense of business, manipulation and leadership, will shell out their money for just attention.

I personally dont see that much wrong with someone chasing someone because they have money. Though, i do question the attraction a female has to a very old man, that to me seems more motivated by material things. But, i can see a woman being attracted to a man because of the power, authority, and social strength he has that gathered up the resources in the first place- plus, there is a sense of men being the ultimate protector and provider as attractive. I see it no different than the hot man getting by only because his genes scream not only attraction, but the possibility of strong and attractive children, which means a higher probability of spreading successful genes (you see this in nature with the display of physical attraction like colors and feathers, you also see the stronger alpha male that runs the pack as the most attractive).

You go out with a fart because he has cash, you will be sad.. you go out with a fart because hes sexy, you will be sad. They are traits that open doors imo.

Thank you for posting this.

It's an interesting topic.

Note to self, get rich by myself so no man will ever pull that move on me. LOL

Or they are both lookin for relationships, but unlike the typical standards we have, they also have rich on the list. Lol that's usually how it is - the relationships I personally know anyway. You have to realize these men who are filthy rich, they are not dumb. They didn't get rich by being stupid and poor judges of characters.

 

The chance of them getting used and blind sided is very slim. I know of none out of .. Well a lot of gold digging type of relationships I know of, lol.

Too often the gold digger is looked down upon, blamed, despised while the man gets the sympathy of others as if he didn't know any better.