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Thread: 500 Days of Summer: a textbook commitment-phobe?

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    Moral of the story, look-out for yourself first. Unfortunately it is a crazy world out there and we need to care about ourselves first before caring about someone else...
    Like icarus I totally see where you are coming from like me, you value morals, etc. But I think it is to stop being so innocent and naive.

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    Yep, Tom should have just seen the relationship for what it was...FWB.

    500 Days of a FWBs

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    Frankly, I didn't think we were watching characters at all in this. I thought they were meant to be the two archetypes of the Dreamer and the Free Spirit having a hopeless romance. Their behaviors were both so over the top to epitomize caricatures of how people actually are. Sure we may identify with characteristics, but people are rarely as hopeless at Tom or as callous as Zoey.

    Still, I mostly enjoyed the film. Except for the ending. That was terrible.

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    Originally Posted by The Wheel
    Frankly, I didn't think we were watching characters at all in this. I thought they were meant to be the two archetypes of the Dreamer and the Free Spirit having a hopeless romance. Their behaviors were both so over the top to epitomize caricatures of how people actually are. Sure we may identify with characteristics, but people are rarely as hopeless at Tom or as callous as Zoey.

    Still, I mostly enjoyed the film. Except for the ending. That was terrible.
    I agree. This was the flip side of the rosy romantic comedy where everything works out in the end. They are both exaggerations of real relationships.

    I disagree with all the comments that neither of them are at fault - they both are. Tom is an idiot for pinning so much hope on someone who clearly won't give herself fully to him; and Summer, even though she was upfront with Tom, is callous and selfish for acting that way towards someone she wields enormous power over.

    I would understand if this was 50 or 100 or 120 days of Summer, but who stays in a "non-defined" relationship for an entire year and a half? It would be different if you had two commitment-phobes who are just friends with benefits and both liked the distance, but if I were Tom and had those feelings for Summer, I would have taken little sister's advice at Day 100 (or whatever) and asked Summer what was going on.

    I did think most of the movie was entertaining, although I think the end was ridiculous. If they showed a sequel of this movie, I worry that 475 days later Tom would be in the exact same position he was with Summer. Summer I'm just not sure about. Maybe I'm discounting Tom's personal growth. He did begin to realize his dream of becoming an architect. But I just didn't see any realization or maturation in his attitudes toward romance or women. Summer was always a fairly flat character and maybe Tom just wasn't the right guy for here. Hard to tell.

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