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    Questioning NC

    Ive been in NC with my ex g/f for 11 days, perhaps it was the shock of everything and I was in denial or perhaps my pride kicked in, but I was doing really great keeping her off my mind until today, I had a horrible dream about her, woke up depressed and my whole day has been ruined ever since. I have been dwelling on everything that led up to my break-up and what I did or didnt do. Its funny all because of a bad dream my mentality has pulled a total 180 on how I have been thinking up until this point. A co-worker today asked me how she was, unaware of the situation, then I had to explain the whole thing to her which brought it up again. Sorry for the pity-party, but in reflecting on everything it made me think of a few things in particular that made me questioning contacting her. When she dumped me I had nothing to say to this girl but why after that I took off without saying anything else, instantly started my car and drove off, this might of came off as I was more angry than emotionally upset, maybe i even was, i dunno, so if she has this notion that I am angry with her and we are on bad terms would this might fuel her not to contact me at all opposed to if we ended it better. I thought of just sending her a text saying no hard feelings or I respect your decesion, but am afraid this would lead me to seeking a reply and if I did then the vicious cycle begins. Also I seemed oblivious to actually why I repeled her away , I dont suppose now that I understand telling her I know why and maybe apologizing would help either. Perhaps I am making excuse to talk to her, I dunno, I am sorry that this is so incoherient, probably should even be a thread, I just need some support and suggestions on if I am doing the right thing continuing with NC and if all these things are a bad idea

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    Sounds like you are more concerned with her feelings and/or response to you than your own. If you feel you must, I would just send something like "Just wanted to say no hard feelings. You made the right decision." and leave it at that. Anything beyond that would be categorized as an "attention seeking behavior."

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    Gday mate. We are in pretty similar positions. I am into Day 10 of NC with me ex, and told her I hated her on the day I requested NC. She was sort of nice on the phone until I really started getting angry.

    But.....while she deleted me off facebook friends list and the like, she then sent an email 2 days ago requesting me to join it. So I think NC works. I think she wanted to see I still cared, and she wanted me to break NC by accepting. I did nothing.

    How bloody awful are the dreams you have about them? I just had another last night, about 4 out of the last 5 nights now. She was angry at me in the dream and wanted nothing to do with me. It makes it all the more hard.

    Keep up the NC buddy, she will contact you if she cares. If you contact her, it pretty much makes her think you NEED her - that's the last thing you want. You want her to need you.

    Make sure you keep posting back on the progress.

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    thanks bud, I will. I just don't like the thought that it is a game, I hate playing games cept. for scrabble and chess, In my dream I was in her house but she kept on avoiding me, everytime I tried to go in a room to sit next to her she got up and went to some other part of the house. I asked her brother what was the deal and he said "dont tell her I told you but she is thinking about leavin' you for guys that are into the one-night stand kinda thing" I was so upset I woke up, this bothered me for sometime, still does, Now I am a grown-up and realize, yeah dreams are not real, but they can sure as hell be scary cause they mirror your subconscious or worst fears. I dunno why I ask questions I already know the answer too, yes I need to keep up with NC, I guess I just needed to talk about things with others. Biggest fear is i I stay in NC that she will never call me again. Everyone tells you to move on, its for the best, that sort of advice, I understand that this is the road I need to travel, but when your emotions are all screwy, and your head isnt on straight we feel like we want more practical clean cut advice on what to do to get him or her back, lol this is not reality though, just seems it would be comforting to talk to a relationship-guru who is gonna say "everything is gonna be alright", But I know thats just what we want to hear anyways

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    Is this the first break up of the NC kind? I am on my 2nd with the same girl, and she is seeing someone already too, so I am stuffed. NC is just to try and show her what she lost, I know she wont ever be with me again.

    Either way, NC is the way to go since you are so far into it (11 days is a lot I think). If she doesn't come after you, then there is nothing you can do to save it, I really believe that. Yes, girls like to be wooed and made feel special, but they also will reach out if they want you. This will give you the answer without you having to ache over trying to win her back.

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    No we took a break once fro a week, still talked everyday pretty much, and broke up 1 time for a day, then it was back to talking, this is the longest we havent spoke to each other in like 2 and a half years.

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    You will get back together. Thats my feeling. It took me 9 months to win back the same ex Im talking about here, so I can talk from experience. Every time I tried NC she would come running back, although not with the promise of a relationship, but hinting at it.

    This time there is another guy, so I have no chance. She said she couldn't get back to the love for me she had before the breakup, and so really why would she bust it off with this guy and try a 3rd time with me?

    NC is my only option. I hope it works for you in terms of getting back together, I think it will.

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    Let go of expectations -- for yourself

    Hi there,

    There really is no way to know if your ex will come back or not, and holding onto hope can be a dangerous thing for you, emotionally speaking. The key is to let go of that hope and work through your emptiness to realize that you can stand on your own two feet without your ex. This is going to be what you realize on your own in time, and right now it will very hard for you to accept it. Now, I am not saying that your ex won't come back -- I am saying there is no way to know, and you have to give up expectations while at the same time doing the right things. This might not make sense right now, but read on.

    What you are experiencing is completely normal. I've been there, and seeing this as a game will just mess with your head. The key is to realize that the actions you are taking (in this case, NC) are about you, and not about getting your ex back. If she comes back, it's going to be because she realizes what life is like without you, and makes a choice for a deeper commitment, so long as you allow her to face life 100% without you. So, your actions might lead to your ex coming back, or might not -- the point is that you need to let go of expecations of her returning, because having hope will trigger your abandonment wounds, and she will reject you if you pursue her, and that will send you into a depression, which is why "no contact" is so important.

    Now, that said, your ex, on her own, needs to be confronted with the consequences of her choice -- namely, losing you forever. If you let her have you both ways (i.e. having you in her life, but without the commitment), then you're really going to suffer. It's okay to respond to your ex, but only tell her that you want to respect her space so that the two of you can move on. You can remind her that being contact makes harder to move on and you really can't be friends right now. Otherwise, avoid contact that could be interpreted as you pursuing her. That is hard, because over the days and weeks to come, she may do things that "trick" you into pursuing her, and then she will reject you or not meet your expectations (or hope) and then you will get angry and/or depressed.

    If you are struggling with closure, you could tell your ex that you would like to have closure, letting her know that it will help you to get over her and to move on. That is ok because it's not threatening to her. This is a bit of reverse psychology, and only do this if you can be mentally and emotionally be strong -- it doesn't sound like you could handle that. You can't be weak and desperate if you choose this route, because then she will see you as an insecure person and drop you like a hot potato and you will get very depressed. It is so important to move on without expectations.

    You are feeling the emotional pangs of abandonment and emptiness, which is very normal, and it is very difficult to resist the urge to contact your ex, but doing so will only send you into a depression while you are in this vulnerable state. You need to realize that your ex is focusing on her needs in a very selfish and narcisstic way, and she is not really concerned about your needs. She might show a little bit of caring, but it won't be much. This is hard to see, especially at this early stage, because you will be tempted to put her up on a pedestal and to dwell on all your good memories, and you will wonder why she seems to be having such an easy time getting over you. The truth, she has to cope, too, and there a lot of defense mechanisms that kick in to help her get over you, and she will likely feel relief in the days and weeks to come, and this would be very hard for you to witness, so stay away from it.

    You are experiencing emptiness. So the real question is this: how do you take actions that maximize the potential for your ex to go into HER emptiness and have the chance of facing the reality that her choice means losing you forever, while at the same time not holding onto to any hope or expectations that she will come back? This is hard, but necessary, because you have to realize that if she were to come back to you, and only if the relationship is VIABLE, then it's really only worth it for her to come back because she works through her emptiness of living life without you and discovering that she misses you and wants to make a conscious choice for a deeper commitment. If she doesn't do that, then it would never work anyway, and knowing that, and if you understand it, then you can be strong and know that you can move on without any expectations.

    She could come back, but if she did so without facing her emptiness, she would take you for granted and then dump you again. Of course, it varies and I don't know your full story, but if you do not pursue her in any way (NC, with occaisonal polite but distant replies to contact if she initiates it), and if the relationship is a viable long-term relationship, then it typically takes a couple of months before she can consciously process her emotions and have the chance to feel empty without you. If you pursue her, or if you respond to any mixed messages from her by pursuing her, or if you get sucked in when she reaches a little, then you will dilute the process and she will not feel the full consequences of her choice. That is why NC is important.

    It is amazing how an ex can get you to pursue them and they don't even know they are doing it -- when you do pursue them, they reject you and feel even more certain of their decision. They get you to pursue, but then they reject you again and again and you will go into a depression. Stay out of those traps. When she contacts you, be polite, but remind her that you want to give and respect her space and freedom, and that being friends right now just won't work. Be caring, but do not tell her that you miss her. Let her be insecure about you -- maybe you have moved on and found somebody else? She won't know. Let her be insecure. Let her face the possibility that you are gone forever. Do not initiate contact with her, though.

    Take control and let the ball be back in your court. I know it's hard, but you can do it. You have the advantage now of knowing that this is about you. She may seem to forget you now, and not to miss you, but if the relationship is viable, and if you do not pursue her, then she will miss you and will face her emptiness, but that doesn't mean she will come back. That, ultimately, is something only she can decide, and there's no amount of pursuasion from you that will change her mind.

    You have to take care of yourself, do not pursue her, and let go of the hope of getting her back. In this regard, then you can honestly say to yourself: (1) I can stand on my own two feet without her; (2) if she doesn't come back, then she didn't have emptiness without me, and therefore it never have worked in the long run; (3) if she were to come back, having faced her emptiness, then you might be willing to let her back into your private world, which will never be the same as it was before -- it would take work, patience, and love to reconcile.

    The key here is to give up trying to control things in order to gain control. I am telling you that you can take steps that maximize the chance of her coming back as a result of working through the emptiness of losing you forever, and you have to realize that if she doesn't do that, then the relationship would not likely have worked out anyway. Viable relationships stretch out like a rubber band with a break-up, and then, so long as you have space apart and do not pursue her, it can spring back together. But, if it doesn't, then you know that it wasn't meant to be.

    I know some of this is probably not what you want to hear. Most viable relationships are salvagable, but you have to take the right steps, and you have to make yourself your number one focus. If person A loves person B, that's great. If person B also loves person A. That is even better. If person A loves himself and person B loves herself, and they both love each other -- then that is really special. Take care of yourself -- that's what she is trying to do, too.

    I hope this long message makes sense to you and helps!
    Last edited by MrSoAndSo2009; 03-25-2009 at 07:54 PM.

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    I guess, I see how NC could give you nothing to lose and everything to gain, its alot psychically easier than texteing or calling her, theres plenty of cute girls out there, I know, but anytime I went out with or persued a pretty girl b4 I found out there personality was a total turn off, didnt even have anything in common, thats why this girl is so special to me, I feel like I would do anything to be with her again, and I guess if thats doing nothing at all, then so be it, that journey will be far more productive than hasseling her

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    Not only is it physically easier, but pursuing her, texting her and contacting her will push her away and will prevent her from being able to see what life is truly like without you. You would face the same rejection over and over and it would drive you crazy and make you depressed. Good luck.

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