Thank you guys for all of your advice. The truth is, I knew already it was a part of his upbringing. the same as Kipster. His mom always did all of the chores, and she never even asked him to do any of them, and his father never does them either. He did move out with his friends for about 5 months before we moved in together. I stayed over almost every night, but I didn't do any of the chores because none of them were my responsibility, except the dishes occasionally. when he lived with his friends, after I taught him to do the laundry, he did it himself. Yes, he would generally let it pile up like a typical guy, but he did it. I told him I was proud of him that he was doing all of this for himself. Then when we moved back in with his mom together, he helped out the same way at first. but then..... alass.... the old habbits came back. I don't want to make him sound like a total slob. He does clean up after himself for the most part, except for the soda cans next to the bed, and laundry. He is typically a neat guy. I would never think of leaving him for something as trivial as this, he would have to do something really, really, really bad!!! I love him with all my heart, and like I said before, I want to spend the rest of my life with him. I also have thought about what you all had said about other guys being the same way, I know that is true for the most part, and I don't want another guy anyway, mine is just great, except for this. He does try though. I do admit it, but ...... I just hate the part where, he doesn't really EXPECT me to do it ..... you are definatly right when you say that he just doesnt THINK about it. I just wish he would, like I do. Sometimes he does it all by himself, but that is very rare, and when he does I let him know how happy it makes me. When I lived with my father, I had to do all of my laundry and the dishes since I was eight years old, and I dont want to be the only one to do the chores for the rest of my life. I have asked him about when we have our own place though. I said..." you will help out around the house right? If I do all the laundry and 'typical girl stuff' you will do the fixing and mowing the lawn and 'typical guy stuff', right" he said yes, but I just worry about that not happening and me doing it all by myself. And I rarely "nag" about the chores, only when it really gets to me, which is usually around that time of the month anyway. I have talked to him about it, or rather tried to, but just like you guys said before, he just gets irritated at the topic. I will have to try the list thing where I give him a choice though, that sounds like a good idea. I dont want to irritate him, I just want fairness. is that too much to ask?