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  2. “Brains! Are you kidding? She hasn’t got any goddam brains! She’s an animal!” The gray-haired man, his nostrils dilating, appeared to take a fairy deep breath. “We’re all animals,” he said. “Basically, we’re all animals.” “Like hell we are. I’m no goddam animal. I may be a stupid, fouled-up twentieth-century son of a b***h, but I’m no animal. Don’t gimme that. I’m no animal.” J.D.Salinger - Pretty Mouth and Green My Eyes
  3. “It was love at first sight, at last sight, at ever and ever sight.” Vladimir Nabokov, Lolita
  4. "Experience is not what happens to you; it's what you do with what happens to you." Aldous Huxley
  5. I really liked the Little House books. I didn't read them until about 5 years ago, though. My grandmother got them for me when I was a little kid. I just couldn't get into them back then. When I finally did read them, I found them fascinating. I immediately ordered and read On the Way Home, and West From Home, because I wanted more. I also ordered and devoured a kids' book that had photos from throughout Laura Ingalls Wilder's life. I'll most certainly read them again. Always planned to. But now it will be particularly interesting, since I've learned that all of my biological ancest
  6. Jibralta - I read Heidi and also the Little House series as a child. Over and over again. I couldn't wait to read Little House with my son (despite some of it apparently not being politically correct anymore, sigh) -anyway I can remember the chair[s] I mostly sat in to read them as a young girl -one was an overstuffed one at my grandmother's house and similar chair in my parents' room. And I ate carrot sticks of course while reading Little House. I was thinking last night that I no longer need to professionally network as much -it was one reason I also socialized a lot - both overlap.
  7. Since I was a little kid, I've enjoyed reading mythology, fairytales, and folktales. The real stuff, not the kid-friendly revisions.... although it did start out with kid-friendly stuff, like The Little Red Hen, The Magic Paint Brush (probably my favorite because it had a dragon), and The Boy Who Cried Wolf. Those were small books that were on the top shelf of the dresser hutch in my bedroom. I remember climbing up to get them.... Any excuse to climb, really. I loved climbing 😂 Next to those books were two larger anthologies of fairy tales, Grimm's, and Anderson's. These were not kid
  8. I will most likely pick that book back up. I've kept it within easy reach all of these years.
  9. What a cool story! Yeah, for me there has always been an intrinsic link between a novel and the fact that a human being made the novel, with the latter often being what's most inspiring for me: books, like suspension bridges and virus vaccines and so much else, being these little monuments to human capability and ingenuity. When I was young I was kind of obsessed with knowing when authors lived and died, and seeing the world, and history, through that lens. Like, I remember the first time I rode the Cyclone, the old rollercoaster in Coney Island. Saw that it was opened in 1927 and t
  10. Me too on the Bluest Eye -didn't grab me, so wanted it to. Maybe I will try it again. Another level to the learning aspect one I thought of because of what Jibralta and you wrote about humans writing. My son and I were reading a young adult book. Great book and I realized the author and I had a lot in common. I contacted him on Facebook and we had a nice private exchange about the old neighborhood, the 1970s in the old neighborhood, etc etc. I told my son about it and he was really into it - (he's almost 12). It's so rare we can talk to the author. I hold most authors in such high este
  11. I can relate to this dislike! With books, I think there as a point in my life when I noticed I'd finish a book just to finish it, at the expense of actually absorbing it. For a stretch, this kind of worried me, since when I was young I would read a book or two a week and the sheer fact that it was A BOOK written by A HUMAN was enough to captivate me to no end. It would be hard for me to exaggerate how much this fact—that human beings can write books—has been a primary motivator in my life. So, what was happening? Was I losing the spark? Did that smartphone mess me up? After wrestli
  12. Yes, I write/have written so I engage in this way -similar to how I engage with live theater -since I know a couple of things about lighting design (dated two lighting designers!) I started watching live theater differently. I think I actually loved Wings of the Dove. I was in the middle of Drowning Ruth but put it down because my library book will be due - The Leavers by Lisa Ko. Very good so far.
  13. Personally, I think there's a lot more wisdom about human nature in something like Shakespeare's Othello than something like those Venus/Mars books.
  14. I dislike giving up on things, and can probably count all of the books that I've stopped reading on one hand. I actually can't remember any at present, but I know there are some. I also have hope that by the end of the book, my opinion will have changed. I am happy to read several books concurrently (not simultaneously haha!), so if a book is very tedious, or if I get bored, I dilute it a bit with an easier or more enjoyable tale. If I don't have anything else to read, it'll just take me a long time to finish the difficult/dull book. This happened to me over the summer, with T
  15. Cool! For me I need to hold a real book and I read articles on the internet. For me reading fiction is not a form of self-love but often teaches me a lot - sometimes about myself, sometimes about the world, a time in history, etc. My particular form of self-love is working out daily. It's what keeps me going through my work out - reminding myself I'm doing it for my own well-being physically and mentally. I'm glad reading gives you that! I love reading articles by Martha Beck -she was a contributor to Oprah's magazine which is now out of print -last issue was last month -I subscribed for
  16. Reading fiction or novels is a great way to relax your mind and, in my opinion, also a form of self-love. What I do is reading both fiction and self-help books and find a balance. When it comes to self-help, especially relationships and personal growth, I love to read not only books but also articles on platforms like Medium. There are plenty of great writers and most articles are well-researched. Other blogs about relationships and self-help I like are: Psychology Today, The Truly Charming, Self, Mbg. On Medium you can also find a lot of fiction.
  17. As a lover of novels and the occasional self-help book (I am quite picky about those), this topic is very much my cup of tea! Awesome, Batya! 😁 I believe that any appropriate novel can incite you to a fabulous journey of self-discovery. Siddharta comes to mind. It certainly challenged the way I view the world and humanity. So did The Great Gatsby - absolutely enjoyed both books! Whether a novel or self-help book, I feel that you have to find a suitable one that speaks to you personally, that you are able to connect with, defies you yet brings you joy. Whilst some peeps might unearth
  18. Sad if she see's her interests in something such as what she chooses to read, leads to any 'guilt'. One should never feel that- unless they are under pressure for a reason.. I don't know? I have always enjoyed reading... many things. From fiction books as a teen( & child), to numerous magazines...often re: health. ( healthy foods and cooking). But, in the last 5 years, I went a little further, did a course to further my interest/ knowledge in mental health and such as working with essential oils to much more) Why? Because at this time, this is what 'peaks my interest', so
  19. Ooooh—the brain explodes! I'll generally put a book down if we're not connecting after the first 30-70 pages (depending on book length). What I've found is that my compatibility with books—yeah, I'm using the language of other ENA topics here with a grin—exists on something of a fluid scale, so I try to seek out the right book for the right time without forcing things too much. I do find I get into rhythms, or cycles. So let's say I read something kind of internal and meditative? Maybe that primes me for something long and sweeping, and so on. I'll get on these streaks—I'm on one n
  20. Interesting! Yes I agree with that. Also so how about this - even the act of starting a novel has to do with self knowledge. Meaning - if the novel is challenging or doesn’t grab you right away - do you stick with it or immediately abandon it etc. I have one novel a friend highly recommended and I’ve read half of it and .... it’s “ok” and I like thinking about why the particular friend liked it but it’s probably not for me. I’m not a fan of being in the middle of more than one novel at a time.
  21. Well put, and agreed. It's kind of like bonding over travel, in that you can find common ground in places you've both been, along with seeing them in a new light, and inspiration in places another has gone that you haven't. So much depth, in short, without things having to get at all weird. Regarding your friend—if you'll accept my apology up front for basically using her a springboard for a larger idea—I think that there is much more value (personally, collectively) in learning to sit with questions than to sprint toward answers. Novels, in ways, present and explore questions, encouragi
  22. I mean you don't call customer service just to listen to the elevator music?? Love the quote from Obama! Also as you may have read from some of my posts I am trying to make new friends in my kinda newish city (well, 11 years here, 43 in the former one) - and I find that it's wonderful to bond over books. It's safe, it can be personal if you want it to be. I have a coworker who recently added me on Facebook. I saw that she loves books too so I messaged her -I would never email her at work about this -there's a huge boundary that way in our office - and now we message pretty often about what w
  23. Yes! The use word "guilt" there caught my eye too, as my internal operating system perceives that almost in the vein of expressing guilt for choosing to listen to a symphony rather than a telemarketer, or choosing to drink kale juice instead of moonshine. Related, this quote from Obama, which I loved: "But if literature and art are good at reminding us of our own folly and our own presumptions and of our own selfishness and shortsightedness, what books and art and stories can also do is remind you of the joys and hope and beauty that we share." Hard to understand how all that
  24. yes. this is how I feel too. And I was thinking of rereading Anna Karenina but I haven't -I did read Pride and Prejudice (husband's favorite as compared to Jane Eyre, which I also read) - but yes -this is what I mean and why I was so surprised at my friend's "guilt' for reading novels over self help. Honestly I wish more people would read actual books as opposed to just snacks of information on blogs/screens. I started reading to my son when he was 5 days old. He can read now - he's almost 12 -and - I still read to him every night. So does my husband. Fairly often we choose things that are
  25. So for me the enjoyment is part of it. With a number of books I read I experience self improvement. I learn a lot about myself and it's insightful to see how others deal with human interactions, with periods of history, etc. I mean that it's even more self help in a way than a "self help" book.

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