Talking to women is not important?

Symbolic · 09-02-2009, 08:34 AM

Talking to women, does it matter what you say? What I mean is, lets say you meet a girl somewhere, at the bust station or at disney world, or at the grocery store. Does it really matter WHAT you say? I've asked about how to initiate a conversation and what to talk about, and they say "whatever is there in front of you!" So if we are in the pickle isle, talk about pickles. But that is so unbelievably stupid and corny and weird, I can't imagine a girl liking a guy who just comes up and talks to her about whatever stupid thing is going on at that moment...

UNLESS...she doesn't really care at all? Its just simply the fact that the guy is talking, and showing his mannerisms or his personality, for her to see. So she can decide if she likes him or not. Am I right? Is it like, you KNOW that I'm talking to you because I am interested, and all the words I say are meaningless, its the way I put them out there for you to look at me, and see how I am and decide whether or not you are interested in me?

Dean_Wincheste · 09-02-2009, 08:40 AM

I think it matters what you say, but what matters a whole lot more is HOW you say it. You can say the cornies things but if you say them in a creepy way, it won't go down well. If however you say them in a really confident way and with lots of positive energy, then the women will pick up on that and they will like it. So you pretty much answered your own question.

Cheeks18 · 09-02-2009, 08:48 AM

Dude the pickle isle is where its at, I know for a fact I could come up with a witty fact or comment about pickles to a women that was in the pickle isle, or ask her what she perfers and why? DILL?? SWEET?? CHOPPED?? Ha lol the possibilities are endless!!!

Symbolic · 09-02-2009, 08:56 AM

I didn't answer my question. I came up with a theory and I need women to tell me if it is true or not.
So if you are a creep, you will say things creepily, that is of course if you have learned to hide your creepiness. If you are confident, and sociable and all the things that a girl might like to see when a guy talks to her, then she might like you. The words are just a means to an end because you cant just stand there, and a lazer comes out of her head and scans you up and down and gives a beep or a buzzer meaning yes or no on whether she likes you lol.

So ladies, am I right?

If I am right.....

Then what do you like to see when a guy approaches you?

A smile? I know that.
Look you in the eyes
face body towards you?
Laugh alot maybe?
Throw a potato sack over your head and try to take you home with me?
Morph into hugh jackman and do whatever the hell I want because no woman could possibly resist hugh jackman?
Compliment you on something you are wearing? I have certainly heard this is good. But does it matter that I compliment you on what your wearing? Will you go. OMG he said he likes my earring!1 yayyy!!! Or is it just the fact that I complimented you on SOMETHING other than your looks, that it is a good idea?

Huzzah_89 · 09-02-2009, 09:11 AM

This is a good question brew, i think a smile and casual conversation is a good start off point.

dragon lady · 09-02-2009, 09:15 AM

Haha, bust station. It helps if you keep the gaze above the neck.

Sorry

Symbolic · 09-02-2009, 09:19 AM

Gaze above the neck...rodger that. Can I glance down maybe? Like, LET her catch me checking her out? eh?! Like once or twice, just to let her know I think she looks good?

dragon lady · 09-02-2009, 09:25 AM

If you approach her, then she already knows

It might work for some, but I'd say that most prefer you to look them in the eye when you speak to them. This is part of what people mean when they say that it's not what you say, but how you say it.

dr_styles · 09-02-2009, 09:33 AM

I assume you're basically approaching a stranger, typical cold approach? (since you use the grocery store example).

And I agree, even though realistically I'll still be talking about something relevant. There are the extremes of coming of a creepy person coming off creepy but when you raise this question/point I definitely agree that unless you say something ridiculous, if she is interested in you, it won't matter. Similarly if she isn't, it won't matter either.

Ofcourse it's important to still talk to someone otherwise you'll never know, but I'll definitely focus on the non-verbal indicators she gives first.

waveseer · 09-02-2009, 09:36 AM

For the grocery store, the checkout line is the best place, she's probably not going to walk away and lose her place in line. lol

I like real life convos, this is what happened to me today, etc...

09-02-2009, 08:34 AM	#1
Symbolic Offline Silver Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Abilene TX Gender: Male Age: 23 Posts: 375	Talking to women is not important? Talking to women, does it matter what you say? What I mean is, lets say you meet a girl somewhere, at the bust station or at disney world, or at the grocery store. Does it really matter WHAT you say? I've asked about how to initiate a conversation and what to talk about, and they say "whatever is there in front of you!" So if we are in the pickle isle, talk about pickles. But that is so unbelievably stupid and corny and weird, I can't imagine a girl liking a guy who just comes up and talks to her about whatever stupid thing is going on at that moment... UNLESS...she doesn't really care at all? Its just simply the fact that the guy is talking, and showing his mannerisms or his personality, for her to see. So she can decide if she likes him or not. Am I right? Is it like, you KNOW that I'm talking to you because I am interested, and all the words I say are meaningless, its the way I put them out there for you to look at me, and see how I am and decide whether or not you are interested in me? __________________ Some of my favorite metal bands: Iced Earth, Stratovarius, In flames, Kalmah, Dark Tranquility, Deeds of Flesh, Cephalic Carnage, Candlemass, Dream Evil, Nile, Emperor, Vital Remains, Rhapsody of Fire, Fear Factory, Morbid Angel, Opeth, Suffocation, Ensiferum, Finntroll, Amon Amarth, Godflesh, Vehemence, Death, Razor, Sarcofago, Necrophagist, Slayer, Megadeth, Metalucifer.

09-02-2009, 08:56 AM	#4
Symbolic Offline Silver Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Abilene TX Gender: Male Age: 23 Posts: 375	I didn't answer my question. I came up with a theory and I need women to tell me if it is true or not. So if you are a creep, you will say things creepily, that is of course if you have learned to hide your creepiness. If you are confident, and sociable and all the things that a girl might like to see when a guy talks to her, then she might like you. The words are just a means to an end because you cant just stand there, and a lazer comes out of her head and scans you up and down and gives a beep or a buzzer meaning yes or no on whether she likes you lol. So ladies, am I right? If I am right..... Then what do you like to see when a guy approaches you? A smile? I know that. Look you in the eyes face body towards you? Laugh alot maybe? Throw a potato sack over your head and try to take you home with me? Morph into hugh jackman and do whatever the hell I want because no woman could possibly resist hugh jackman? Compliment you on something you are wearing? I have certainly heard this is good. But does it matter that I compliment you on what your wearing? Will you go. OMG he said he likes my earring!1 yayyy!!! Or is it just the fact that I complimented you on SOMETHING other than your looks, that it is a good idea? __________________ Some of my favorite metal bands: Iced Earth, Stratovarius, In flames, Kalmah, Dark Tranquility, Deeds of Flesh, Cephalic Carnage, Candlemass, Dream Evil, Nile, Emperor, Vital Remains, Rhapsody of Fire, Fear Factory, Morbid Angel, Opeth, Suffocation, Ensiferum, Finntroll, Amon Amarth, Godflesh, Vehemence, Death, Razor, Sarcofago, Necrophagist, Slayer, Megadeth, Metalucifer.

09-02-2009, 09:19 AM	#7
Symbolic Offline Silver Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Abilene TX Gender: Male Age: 23 Posts: 375	Gaze above the neck...rodger that. Can I glance down maybe? Like, LET her catch me checking her out? eh?! Like once or twice, just to let her know I think she looks good? __________________ Some of my favorite metal bands: Iced Earth, Stratovarius, In flames, Kalmah, Dark Tranquility, Deeds of Flesh, Cephalic Carnage, Candlemass, Dream Evil, Nile, Emperor, Vital Remains, Rhapsody of Fire, Fear Factory, Morbid Angel, Opeth, Suffocation, Ensiferum, Finntroll, Amon Amarth, Godflesh, Vehemence, Death, Razor, Sarcofago, Necrophagist, Slayer, Megadeth, Metalucifer.

09-02-2009, 09:33 AM	#9
dr_styles Offline Silver Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Australia Gender: Male Posts: 1,277	I assume you're basically approaching a stranger, typical cold approach? (since you use the grocery store example). And I agree, even though realistically I'll still be talking about something relevant. There are the extremes of coming of a creepy person coming off creepy but when you raise this question/point I definitely agree that unless you say something ridiculous, if she is interested in you, it won't matter. Similarly if she isn't, it won't matter either. Ofcourse it's important to still talk to someone otherwise you'll never know, but I'll definitely focus on the non-verbal indicators she gives first. __________________ Ten years ago I never would've thought I'd be in the loveless situation I am in now ...

09-02-2009, 09:36 AM	#10
waveseer Offline Platinum Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: In a world full of possibilities. Gender: Female Age: 46 Posts: 11,062	For the grocery store, the checkout line is the best place, she's probably not going to walk away and lose her place in line. lol I like real life convos, this is what happened to me today, etc... __________________ Whoever dies with the most "happy" wins! ~ shuttlefish profile pic explained: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl6yXBnLYYM and more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKnw9TM_AAI and if you weren't convinced: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3fPtMuBtMs and if you're not sick yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTvUT_Hx4Dc to accept your partner: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgP57lJvWRw

09-02-2009, 08:40 AM	#2
Dean_Wincheste Offline Bronze Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Europe Gender: Male Age: 24 Posts: 102	I think it matters what you say, but what matters a whole lot more is HOW you say it. You can say the cornies things but if you say them in a creepy way, it won't go down well. If however you say them in a really confident way and with lots of positive energy, then the women will pick up on that and they will like it. So you pretty much answered your own question.

09-02-2009, 08:48 AM	#3
Cheeks18 Offline Silver Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Chicago Gender: Male Posts: 405	Dude the pickle isle is where its at, I know for a fact I could come up with a witty fact or comment about pickles to a women that was in the pickle isle, or ask her what she perfers and why? DILL?? SWEET?? CHOPPED?? Ha lol the possibilities are endless!!!

09-02-2009, 09:11 AM	#5
Huzzah_89 Offline Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Adelaide, Australia Gender: Male Age: 20 Posts: 150	This is a good question brew, i think a smile and casual conversation is a good start off point.

09-02-2009, 09:15 AM	#6
dragon lady Offline Platinum Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Gender: Female Age: 23 Posts: 2,614	Haha, bust station. It helps if you keep the gaze above the neck. Sorry

09-02-2009, 09:25 AM	#8
dragon lady Offline Platinum Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Gender: Female Age: 23 Posts: 2,614	If you approach her, then she already knows It might work for some, but I'd say that most prefer you to look them in the eye when you speak to them. This is part of what people mean when they say that it's not what you say, but how you say it.