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Old 04-19-2009, 11:13 PM   #1
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A questions for Christians on here: adultery and word of God.

A sister in the church I go to, and my mom's friend, had contacted me and told me verses in Proverbs that are relating to adultery and said the Lord told her to tell me this.

In essence this Proverb is saying that if you play with fire you'll get burned and not to mess around with a married woman.

When I asked her about why she brought up this verse -- she maintained that I said something about wanting to see my "female" gym trainer because she inspired me to be at the gym.

I'm not sure of her maritial status or if she has a boyfriend, however I look at my training sessions like virtual dates. Even when I'm alone under her program guidance I'm having a great time by myself at the gym. She just assists me with gym weights and practises. However, sometimes she touches my hips (to balance the weights), holds me legs close to her breasts (mid-section exercises), or may just touch other parts of my body with respect to the exercise. This is just a necessary part of the exercise, likely on the same level dancing lessons are.
I talk to the trainer only in terms of health, and nothing is talked about beyond that. It's an asexual relationship at best where I like her as my gym trainer (I even fired another trainer to have sessions with her instead since I felt a better connection with her).

I bought a car. I hugged the saleswoman that sold it to me. Was she talking about that? Come to think of it she looked older. Maybe she was married? I don't know. I really liked her and lusted after her the day before. Since she sold me the car I thought it was a good opportunity to release all that pent up sexual energy and just hug her. I felt good riding the nice new car, and hugging that woman enhanced that experience when I first started driving the car.

In consulation with my overall policies or agendas, there is no policy or agenda towards going with any married woman that I know about. There was one married woman in particular IN THE PAST, that's talked about in this section, but I do not have an agenda or policy to pursue her. Sometimes I may hug my pillow and think about her, or feel good if she talks to me, but that's it. I would consider playing with fire if I had a purpose within me to deepen or make a connection with her -- and say took her to listing appointments with me, or make a business excuse so I'd be around her more frequently. However, there is no such agenda for that since I already have a long-distance girlfriend who is also my accountability partner on matters like that.

Other than that, my life is clean. I hang around boards like "SOSUAVE". Listen to stories of people getting relationships or getting it with girls. I look at it for entertainment mostly and don't really apply anything to it.

That verse she mentioned appears in light of my simple and celibate lifestyle to be out of place for her to be quoting it and I'm unsure if this person has issues herself, or how is it I'm playing with fire?

So far, I've allowed asexual physical interactions (hugging, cheek-kissing, hand-shake, gym training exercises), to be allowed without triggering any thresholds. (The target married woman in the office may not be hugged or cheek-kissed without disclosing that to my long-distance gf if it happens again).

Could it be that my mind is framed a certain way where innocious interactions are amplified like CRAZY, and what could be normal to someone else, may mean something else to me? Is it possible I'm committing adultery by hugging married woman or using a "female" trainer who may be married or in a relatoinship, or hugging my pillow while thoughts of a married woman at the office may be in my head? Or is this woman out of her mind or am I playing with fire?
 
Old 04-19-2009, 11:17 PM   #2
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That kind of thing, if explained to her, is none of her business. Its between you and God. The God/Holy Spirit would convict you, otherwise I think you are doing nothing wrong.
 
Old 04-19-2009, 11:22 PM   #3
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You've a history of becoming involved emotionally to married women. Perhaps it's fitting for that verse.
 
Old 04-19-2009, 11:25 PM   #4
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I think there is something wrong with creating emotional attachments to women who are married already.
 
Old 04-19-2009, 11:35 PM   #5
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Being attracted to the opposite sex is a normal human response. Pursuing someone who's married is immoral whether you are religious or not. It doesn't sound like you're pursuing these women so you're not doing anything wrong. You might want to focus your attention elsewhere though just for the sake of not torturing yourself with things you can't have.
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Old 04-19-2009, 11:38 PM   #6
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Thank-you Gratsky. This is very sensitive area with me and such deep areas should be between myself and God. It's much too personal for another woman to raise her nose into it. Another man, maybe, but she's a woman herself.

I have never felt the conviction with the Lord in this area of life to be honest, however I am very cautious not to sin.

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You've a history of becoming involved emotionally to married women. Perhaps it's fitting for that verse.
Thank-you. However, history is history. This is the present.

So, this verse, is really talking about my "thought-life" rather than any "real" isues in the external world? Beyond my thoughts and emotions (as emotions are often based on what you are thinking), is there anything else in question?

I know there are other verses in the New Testament, such as Matthew 5:28, and Philippeans 4:8 that deal specifically with issues pertaining to a holy thought-life. It's a wonder why she would quote from Proverbs when she could have quoted these other verses that are directly relevant to a holy thought-life.

The Proverbs verses appear to be talking to a young man, who is married himself, against being tempted to commit adultery with another woman. I would disqualify because I'm not married, and I never did anything with a married woman before other than the seemingly innoscent things mentioned in the above post. Also as another poster correctly stated, I'm not pursuing any married woman!
 
Old 04-19-2009, 11:48 PM   #7
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There is currently a low-level "Limerance" on a married woman at the office:

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The defination of Limerance is on the link above. This is involuntary based on the defination.

Today, I imagined she was doing an open house somewhere and was looking at Real-Estate signs to see if her name was on it. If she approaches or talks to me, I get excited inside and feel an adreline rush, sort of drug like.

However, I repeat, I'm not pursuing her and have made a firm decision about that since January 25 and again on April 2nd.

The only way I interact with this woman is incidental. (I.e. if she says hi to me, I'll say hi back, if we cross paths, we may say hi to each other).

I really believe this is a normal human response and I'm not pursuing her. I can't control who I have a crush/feelings on, but I can control what I do about it -- which in this case is NOTHING.

There is no other "emotional" attachment with any other married woman.

In this case, I think that this whole exercise is just bringing back the focus to this married woman rather than putting it under the rug so to speak, if I had already determined I wasn't pursuing her in the first place...sort of counter-productive - that is why it didn't make sence.
 
Old 04-20-2009, 07:37 AM   #8
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Do you think it's possible that your mother asked her to bring this up?
 
Old 04-20-2009, 09:05 AM   #9
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Do you think it's possible that your mother asked her to bring this up?
No. She is not that close to her. My mom was surprized herself about that and didn't know what she was talking about. It's confusing for her too.
 
Old 04-20-2009, 09:16 AM   #10
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Perhaps you should be more careful about the things you say to people at church, and the way you say them.

Clearly you're getting alot of satisfication out of your encounters with your personal trainer, and this came across through your communication with the woman at church.
 
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