feeling pushed by psychiatrists to go back while I still feel content with my decision to stop going

Belgian girl · 09-26-2008, 10:57 AM

Have had a phone call yesterday morning and during all those about 5 minutes I continued disagreeing and answering with I almost haven't had any psychical problems last months, I don't want to go anymore, I'm content with the decision I made about 2 months ago to stop going,..

but psy. didn't react on what I gave as reasons and continued saying everybody is worried and got mail again from one of my familymembers about how bad it's going with me and worried. And that they otherwise are going to visit me at home (together with a student docter, the one I visited the last time I needed some medication). I felt so bad and angry and frustrated and bitter ! The family member is diagnosed munchauser by proxi. I mentioned that for the 1000th time at phone as well (that it seems the reason 'worried' isn't trustable in that case, isn't it ?! But she didn't react !)

Mutley · 09-26-2008, 10:59 AM

If you don't want to go, don't.

Belgian girl · 09-26-2008, 11:02 AM

When I felt I wasn't able to get her stopped I said 'It seems I have no other choise than going..' and she answered with 'We can't pull you to here'
and when I finally gave in and said I prefer next month she found it too late and let me make apointment for next Monday !

Belgian girl · 09-26-2008, 11:03 AM

But expect then they'ld come at home

**greensleeves** · 09-26-2008, 11:48 AM

I want to make sure I'm understanding this right. Is it your mother who has been diagnosed with munchausen by proxy? Is she trying to convince doctors that you're ill?

Belgian girl · 09-26-2008, 02:02 PM

that's where diagnosis munchauser by proxi is about yeah
Even the thought of going back makes me feel terrible. They are never there with their thoughts and it made me so frustrated and angry and depressed and lonely and bitter previous times. And I'm almost out of money and dislike paying again for something like that.

**greensleeves** · 09-26-2008, 04:10 PM

Do you live on your own? It doesn't seem that they can force you to do this if you don't feel it's needed. Why do they think you need help?

Belgian girl · 09-26-2008, 04:14 PM

I live at a student building at a studenttown. I live at the same city three years now.
I really disliked the phonecall, I felt really forced and all the time no reaction at the answers/reasons/explanation I gave. And they never ever have done something with the fact munchauser by proxy, even while it's them showed at giving them a look at a big document made by an other psychiatrist at the past who made an observation.

nutbrownhare · 09-26-2008, 04:42 PM

I'm not familiar with Mental Health legislation in Belgium, but in the UK you cannot be medicated against your will unless you've been examined by a psychiatrist and are demonstrably suffering symptoms of mental illness (e.g. hearing voices, suffering from delusions etc).

If someone is telling you that they can't make you go to hospital/clinic/whatever - believe it. And don't go! If your situation should change, and you feel in need of psychiatric support, you can always change your mind.

Belgian girl · 09-26-2008, 04:51 PM

Thank you.
I think it's the same here. But think they could bring visit at home whenever they want.
That was indeed my plan.. to go as soon as I feel need to go.
I do have some symptoms but personally I find it almost only comes up at moments I feel I have little strenght and/or much pain due to my health issues. And even then it seems to me I could choose to take the step to anti fear medication if I would prefer that above therapy again.

09-26-2008, 10:57 AM	#1
Belgian girl Offline Silver Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Belgium Gender: Female Age: 23 Posts: 1,622	feeling pushed by psychiatrists to go back while I still feel content with my decision to stop going Have had a phone call yesterday morning and during all those about 5 minutes I continued disagreeing and answering with I almost haven't had any psychical problems last months, I don't want to go anymore, I'm content with the decision I made about 2 months ago to stop going,.. but psy. didn't react on what I gave as reasons and continued saying everybody is worried and got mail again from one of my familymembers about how bad it's going with me and worried. And that they otherwise are going to visit me at home (together with a student docter, the one I visited the last time I needed some medication). I felt so bad and angry and frustrated and bitter ! The family member is diagnosed munchauser by proxi. I mentioned that for the 1000th time at phone as well (that it seems the reason 'worried' isn't trustable in that case, isn't it ?! But she didn't react !)

09-26-2008, 11:48 AM	#5
greensleeves Offline Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2007 Gender: Female Posts: 2,941	I want to make sure I'm understanding this right. Is it your mother who has been diagnosed with munchausen by proxy? Is she trying to convince doctors that you're ill? __________________ Our prime purpose in this life is to help others. And if you can't help them, at least don't hurt them. Dalai Lama

09-26-2008, 04:10 PM	#7
greensleeves Offline Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2007 Gender: Female Posts: 2,941	Do you live on your own? It doesn't seem that they can force you to do this if you don't feel it's needed. Why do they think you need help? __________________ Our prime purpose in this life is to help others. And if you can't help them, at least don't hurt them. Dalai Lama

09-26-2008, 10:59 AM	#2
Mutley Offline Platinum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Ohio Gender: Male Age: 40 Posts: 2,818	If you don't want to go, don't.

09-26-2008, 11:02 AM	#3
Belgian girl Offline Silver Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Belgium Gender: Female Age: 23 Posts: 1,622	When I felt I wasn't able to get her stopped I said 'It seems I have no other choise than going..' and she answered with 'We can't pull you to here' and when I finally gave in and said I prefer next month she found it too late and let me make apointment for next Monday !

09-26-2008, 11:03 AM	#4
Belgian girl Offline Silver Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Belgium Gender: Female Age: 23 Posts: 1,622	But expect then they'ld come at home

09-26-2008, 02:02 PM	#6
Belgian girl Offline Silver Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Belgium Gender: Female Age: 23 Posts: 1,622	that's where diagnosis munchauser by proxi is about yeah Even the thought of going back makes me feel terrible. They are never there with their thoughts and it made me so frustrated and angry and depressed and lonely and bitter previous times. And I'm almost out of money and dislike paying again for something like that.

09-26-2008, 04:14 PM	#8
Belgian girl Offline Silver Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Belgium Gender: Female Age: 23 Posts: 1,622	I live at a student building at a studenttown. I live at the same city three years now. I really disliked the phonecall, I felt really forced and all the time no reaction at the answers/reasons/explanation I gave. And they never ever have done something with the fact munchauser by proxy, even while it's them showed at giving them a look at a big document made by an other psychiatrist at the past who made an observation.

09-26-2008, 04:42 PM	#9
nutbrownhare Offline Platinum Member Join Date: May 2008 Gender: None Specified Posts: 1,191	I'm not familiar with Mental Health legislation in Belgium, but in the UK you cannot be medicated against your will unless you've been examined by a psychiatrist and are demonstrably suffering symptoms of mental illness (e.g. hearing voices, suffering from delusions etc). If someone is telling you that they can't make you go to hospital/clinic/whatever - believe it. And don't go! If your situation should change, and you feel in need of psychiatric support, you can always change your mind.

09-26-2008, 04:51 PM	#10
Belgian girl Offline Silver Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Belgium Gender: Female Age: 23 Posts: 1,622	Thank you. I think it's the same here. But think they could bring visit at home whenever they want. That was indeed my plan.. to go as soon as I feel need to go. I do have some symptoms but personally I find it almost only comes up at moments I feel I have little strenght and/or much pain due to my health issues. And even then it seems to me I could choose to take the step to anti fear medication if I would prefer that above therapy again.