arrowbee Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 I'm gonna come right out and admit it: I haven't had sex in 22 months, and it's starting to bug me. I have no interest in dating anymore, but I am curious about prostitutes. I live in a city where prostitution is essentially legal, and where prostitutes carry cellphones and dress like other businesswomen and have the same standards of hygiene as "normal people". My experiences in the dating world haven't been truly catastrophic, but they have been regrettably tedious. It's not so much that I'm shy - I have a very large circle of friends (all of whom are either straight men, gay men or lesbians). I'm just bad at dating. Maybe our entire society's way of looking at sex is deeply messed up. Maybe sex SHOULD be a transaction. It can't possibly be any more crass and degrading than dating, and nobody can deny that it's much more honest than dating. And when you add up the cost of every first date I've been on over the last 21 months, it's certainly less expensive! Why should sex and love have anything in common at all? Why shound something as profound as love be so necessarily inextricably bound up with something as mundane and embarrassing as getting off? This question keeps eating away at me. Can anyone answer it? I wish to have this philosophical issue resolved before I make the big call. And, to all the socialists out there, please spare me your arguments about prostitution being exploitative. In the free market, there is no such thing as exploitation. Link to comment
OOHMY Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 If you like to get a disease go for it. Theres other ways of contacting a disease besides having sexual intercourse while being with someone. You should wait until you meet someone and start dating. Then the sex will be more amazing. Most women would think, woah you went that low? Its probably not something you want to say, but should tell someone. It comes off as desperate in some sense, its icky! Link to comment
arrowbee Posted October 26, 2007 Author Share Posted October 26, 2007 If you like to get a disease go for it. Theres other ways of contacting a disease besides having sexual intercourse while being with someone. Did you not read the second paragraph of my post? In Toronto, you are just as likely to catch an STD from a prostitute as you are to catch one from a normal university coed. (In fact there is substantial overlap between the two groups.) You should wait until you meet someone and start dating. Then the sex will be more amazing. Most women would think, woah you went that low? Its probably not something you want to say, but should tell someone. It comes off as desperate in some sense, its icky! I'm operating on the assumption that I will never date again, so this is irrelevant. Thanks for replying though! Link to comment
CaptainPlanet Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Well I am from Australia and if you are questioning at all the morality of prostitution, in Australia I have no problems with it at all. If I were to visit the United States I would never visit a prostitute, infact, I would be ashamed of myself if I did. My reasons are that in a country where there is no safety net, and a fulltime job does not always provide a living wage, it is easy for a girl to be forced into prostitution. I would not want that on my conscience. I think it depends entirely where you are from. Link to comment
tmp0620 Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 22 months eh? Try 22 years. I'm seriously considering a trip too Amsterdam in the near future.... Or if I'm really low on funds, the Czech Republic Link to comment
CaptainPlanet Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Prostitution is fine, so long as the girls has not been coerced into it. For example coercion by economic factos outside of her control. But yes I agree love and sex can very much be separate. Link to comment
Dako Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 If you wanna buy some sex and find it acceptable, what keeps you celibating? Perhaps you have some reservations? Link to comment
CarnelianButterfly Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 If you are desperate for sex, what do the opinions of a group of strangers really have to do with it? Sex can be separate from love, but there are a lot of people that will tell you sex with someone you sincerely care for is far more satisfactory and meaningful than sex with Lulu from 5th and Main. You are the only one that can decide how intwined your love/sex ideology is, if you want to have sex when and with who is your choice. Link to comment
Boldger Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 If you are desperate for sex, what do the opinions of a group of strangers really have to do with it? Sex can be separate from love, but there are a lot of people that will tell you sex with someone you sincerely care for is far more satisfactory and meaningful than sex with Lulu from 5th and Main. You are the only one that can decide how intwined your love/sex ideology is, if you want to have sex when and with who is your choice. If his ideology allows for it then having sex with a total stranger can be just as fulfilling or even moreso than having sex with a significant other. Paying for sex doesn't come off as desperate. People try to add meaning to an activity that really requires none, sex for pleasure (which is why most people do it) is no different than any other activity done for pleasure. Paying for pleasure, whether it be sex or a movie, is perfectly natural. Link to comment
CarnelianButterfly Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 Paying for sex doesn't come off as desperate. People try to add meaning to an activity that really requires none, sex for pleasure (which is why most people do it) is no different than any other activity done for pleasure. Paying for pleasure, whether it be sex or a movie, is perfectly natural. That is your choice to feel that way. Others have different opinions on the value they place on different things. Ones man's trash is another man's treasure. Link to comment
vinnee Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 If you are not in a relationship and thereforeeee not deceiving anyone, I would say you are a perfect candidate for this service. Since prostitution has been going on for a long time all over the world I don't see why it is illegal. Her body; her right. And clearly making it illegal has not put a stop to it. I will however say that while the ladies o the night in your area may not come crack pipe obligatory, don't be blind. They didn't grow up thinking "I wanna be a prostitute!" Something went off the tracks for them at some point to lead them to this profession. They are damaged in some very sad way and no matter how nice you may be in your sessions with them.......well, you're not being part of the solution is all I'm saying. Wrap it up and get checked regularly. Being the age you are, you just might meet someone wonderful later in life and what a bummer it will be to find yourself getting heated with them and have to stop for the "living with STDs" talk. Link to comment
booger Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 If it's really accurate to say that the chances of getting a disease from a hooker is the same as from a coed in your city, then there's only one logical choice. Move to another city. Link to comment
star2008 Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 I don't like the idea of having sex with someone who will only have sex with me if I give them money. Doesn't it bother you that noone wants to have sex with you for free? Link to comment
CaptainPlanet Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 I don't like the idea of having sex with someone who will only have sex with me if I give them money. Doesn't it bother you that noone wants to have sex with you for free? Exactly I think that is the real issue. Link to comment
arrowbee Posted October 27, 2007 Author Share Posted October 27, 2007 I don't like the idea of having sex with someone who will only have sex with me if I give them money. Doesn't it bother you that noone wants to have sex with you for free? Sure it does. A lot of things bother me: politics, the environment, the economy, single straight women being difficult to understand. But I don't dwell on things I can't change - I do the practical thing and get on with life. What's the alternative? Turning into a "hopelessly romantic underlaid male" stereotype, who is a nervous wreck and develops creepy crushes on his co-workers? I'd rather be a punter, thank you very much....I think... Link to comment
Dako Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 What keeps you from renting a woman? You seem set on the transaction. Link to comment
anggrace Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 If his ideology allows for it then having sex with a total stranger can be just as fulfilling or even moreso than having sex with a significant other. Paying for sex doesn't come off as desperate. People try to add meaning to an activity that really requires none, sex for pleasure (which is why most people do it) is no different than any other activity done for pleasure. Paying for pleasure, whether it be sex or a movie, is perfectly natural. The greatest pleasures I experience are free. Link to comment
Dako Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 ^ Same here. I seldom stuff bills in my sweetie's bloomers. Link to comment
WaterIsLife Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 The greatest pleasures I experience are free. I would definitely have to agree with this! Link to comment
CaptainPlanet Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 Sure it does. A lot of things bother me: politics, the environment, the economy, single straight women being difficult to understand. But I don't dwell on things I can't change - I do the practical thing and get on with life. What's the alternative? Turning into a "hopelessly romantic underlaid male" stereotype, who is a nervous wreck and develops creepy crushes on his co-workers? I'd rather be a punter, thank you very much....I think... b.c ur way too young for that. if ur going to do it just don't make a habit out of it. Link to comment
Boldger Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 The greatest pleasures I experience are free. Completely irrelevant. That is your choice to feel that way. Others have different opinions on the value they place on different things. Ones man's trash is another man's treasure. Right, it makes sense to tell me about other people's opinions while at the same time spouting yours. Of course it's my choice to feel this way, just as it's the OP's. /sarcasm Link to comment
itsallgrand Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 On the most basic level, prostitution is illegal and has its legal and social risks in most places that users to this forum come from. With so many people open to casual sex nowadays, it is strange to me that a young man would go the tougher and rougher prostitution route. Nevermind our opinions of it. Instead of thinking 'why not' prostitition, can I ask "why not?" casual sex or 'regular' relations between the opposite sex. You pick a path and it will have its impact on your life not just for the moment but for the future. I personally cant' imagine having a relationship with a man who was once a john. That will be one thing to consider...how it will affect any future prospects and your approach to them. Link to comment
CarnelianButterfly Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 Completely irrelevant. Its not, though. It's her opinion as to what she does to find pleasure. There are people that sex is not an issue, they don't measure their life's value by the amount of sex they've have. If it is just another pleasurable act, like going to a movie, then any substitution would do. So, in turn, why waste the money if pleasure can be found for free. Link to comment
CaptainPlanet Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 Its not, though. It's her opinion as to what she does to find pleasure. There are people that sex is not an issue, they don't measure their life's value by the amount of sex they've have. If it is just another pleasurable act, like going to a movie, then any substitution would do. So, in turn, why waste the money if pleasure can be found for free. opportunity cost Link to comment
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