Is this child abuse?

Mackenzie · 10-21-2006, 04:20 PM

Is it abusive for a teacher to not allow a child to have lunch all day as a punishment? Do teachers have that right?

**annie24** · 10-21-2006, 04:22 PM

where do you live? that sounds like a punishment to me. check the laws in your state. maybe talk to a lawyer, see what they say. you should definately contact the school board and the principal regarding this. but talk to a lawyer first.

4thelast1 · 10-21-2006, 04:34 PM

UH, NO. This is against the law! It is againts the law due to cruel and unusuall punishment. If people in jail are Required to have three square meals a day then a Child should never be punished by food taken away!! This also breaks federal law, a child does have civil rights.

DN · 10-21-2006, 04:43 PM

I doubt it is against the law per se. But certainly ask the principal if that is a recognised punishment at the school and if it is not that make a complaint.

If it is then take it up with the school board.

I would only recommend seeing a lawyer if these two courses of action fail.

Mackenzie · 10-21-2006, 04:47 PM

Well, the teacher was fired anyway, but I was kind of wondering if maybe she deserved to be fired or if she should have just gotten a warning. But when you put it that way I think the situation was handled just as it should have been. I'm just really surprised because she's well-liked by lots of other kids at the school and she thought she was doing the right thing. Thanks for clearing that up, but one more thing I forgot to mention before- if she tries to get another job somewhere else, will this incident hold her back? Would the pincipals of other schools have access to this type of information, do you think?

DN · 10-21-2006, 04:50 PM

Yes, if she was fired for misconduct involving children it would be part of her record. But the chances are that she would get another job but be closely monitored. People make mistakes and providing it was not one of several she would get a second chance.

Mackenzie · 10-21-2006, 05:19 PM

Yeah, and apparently she'd been picking on this boy whose lunch got trashed for awhile, and his sister. There was another severe incident involving the sister, but I won't mention it in case I get recognized somehow... I always worry about that. I didn't like this teacher too much anyway. She favoured like crazy, ignoring some kids who cried for their parents and taking others onto her lap. She also kissed a lot of kids when she saw them, which I found totally inappropriate simply because she'd only do it to some kids, and because she was crossing her limits as a teacher. It's been awhile since I was in kindergarten, but I know if she was my teacher when I was five I'd feel absolutely horrible. You'd only like her if you were one of the "cuter" kids, which is really sad. I thought I was just imagining this, as I was fifteen when she first came to the school. But two years later, I can see I was right about her all along. Anyway, thanks for answering my questions.

**Hope75** · 10-21-2006, 06:12 PM

It sounds as though this is one of those situations where inappropriate and potentially dangerous behaviour caught up with her. If this is how she was behaving in her classroom, it could be a good thing if she has trouble finding a new teaching position.

doyathink · 10-21-2006, 06:26 PM

WOW...just...wow! How could any decent person deny a child food? I hope she never finds work where it involves a child being around her. How awful!

Fallout · 10-21-2006, 06:35 PM

Yeah good that she was fired...

10-21-2006, 04:20 PM	#1
Mackenzie Offline Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 35	Is this child abuse? Is it abusive for a teacher to not allow a child to have lunch all day as a punishment? Do teachers have that right?

10-21-2006, 04:43 PM	#4
DN Offline Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Gender: Male Posts: 23,441	I doubt it is against the law per se. But certainly ask the principal if that is a recognised punishment at the school and if it is not that make a complaint. If it is then take it up with the school board. I would only recommend seeing a lawyer if these two courses of action fail. __________________ Immaturity is not defined by him not doing what you want him to do. Hartman's Law of Prescriptivist Retaliation: "any article or statement about correct grammar, punctuation, or spelling is bound to contain at least one eror".

10-21-2006, 04:50 PM	#6
DN Offline Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Gender: Male Posts: 23,441	Yes, if she was fired for misconduct involving children it would be part of her record. But the chances are that she would get another job but be closely monitored. People make mistakes and providing it was not one of several she would get a second chance. __________________ Immaturity is not defined by him not doing what you want him to do. Hartman's Law of Prescriptivist Retaliation: "any article or statement about correct grammar, punctuation, or spelling is bound to contain at least one eror".

10-21-2006, 06:12 PM	#8
Hope75 Offline Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: kitteh ville Gender: Female Age: 33 Posts: 12,512	It sounds as though this is one of those situations where inappropriate and potentially dangerous behaviour caught up with her. If this is how she was behaving in her classroom, it could be a good thing if she has trouble finding a new teaching position. __________________ Muffin cats need love too. Please refer to the forum rules before posting: http://www.enotalone.com/forum/forum-rules.php Mama to a beautiful baby girl born 6-25-09. :)

10-21-2006, 06:26 PM	#9
doyathink Offline Platinum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Venus Gender: Female Posts: 5,313	WOW...just...wow! How could any decent person deny a child food? I hope she never finds work where it involves a child being around her. How awful! __________________ When life hands you lemons, ask for tequila and salt and call me over.

10-21-2006, 04:22 PM	#2
annie24 Online Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Age: 29 Posts: 26,825	where do you live? that sounds like a punishment to me. check the laws in your state. maybe talk to a lawyer, see what they say. you should definately contact the school board and the principal regarding this. but talk to a lawyer first.

10-21-2006, 04:34 PM	#3
4thelast1 Offline Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Centennial, CO. Gender: Female Posts: 62	UH, NO. This is against the law! It is againts the law due to cruel and unusuall punishment. If people in jail are Required to have three square meals a day then a Child should never be punished by food taken away!! This also breaks federal law, a child does have civil rights.

10-21-2006, 04:47 PM	#5
Mackenzie Offline Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 35	Well, the teacher was fired anyway, but I was kind of wondering if maybe she deserved to be fired or if she should have just gotten a warning. But when you put it that way I think the situation was handled just as it should have been. I'm just really surprised because she's well-liked by lots of other kids at the school and she thought she was doing the right thing. Thanks for clearing that up, but one more thing I forgot to mention before- if she tries to get another job somewhere else, will this incident hold her back? Would the pincipals of other schools have access to this type of information, do you think?

10-21-2006, 05:19 PM	#7
Mackenzie Offline Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 35	Yeah, and apparently she'd been picking on this boy whose lunch got trashed for awhile, and his sister. There was another severe incident involving the sister, but I won't mention it in case I get recognized somehow... I always worry about that. I didn't like this teacher too much anyway. She favoured like crazy, ignoring some kids who cried for their parents and taking others onto her lap. She also kissed a lot of kids when she saw them, which I found totally inappropriate simply because she'd only do it to some kids, and because she was crossing her limits as a teacher. It's been awhile since I was in kindergarten, but I know if she was my teacher when I was five I'd feel absolutely horrible. You'd only like her if you were one of the "cuter" kids, which is really sad. I thought I was just imagining this, as I was fifteen when she first came to the school. But two years later, I can see I was right about her all along. Anyway, thanks for answering my questions.

10-21-2006, 06:35 PM	#10
Fallout Offline Join Date: Jul 2006 Gender: Male Age: 29 Posts: 464	Yeah good that she was fired...