Tell me this isn't true ...

[Tarkan]

Last week I was at the pub with alot of female friends from my class. Obviously, there was alot of sextalk. This time, they all decided to make a game about it ( I just played along ). Everyone would write down a question on a small piece of paper and put it in a bag. The point is to grab a paper, read the question and everyone would have to answer in a honest way.

It wasn't as fun for me a it was for them since I don't have alot of experience. It's just so annoying when everyone starts bragging about their sexual exploits, especially when you're single. The whole evening they reminded me about all the good things I'm missing -_-

Anyway, that's not the point.

The first questions came up. A few examples:

How many partners did you have ? How many times a week do you masturbate ? What was the best sex you ever had ? Did you ever had a threesome ? What's your greatest sexual fantasy ? Are you into swingers ? etc ...

Then came a question that seems pretty innocent ... but the responses just chocked me:

Did you ever cheat ?

EVERY single girl at the table did cheat at least once. I couldn't believe my eyes ... euh ... ears ! They were talking and laughing about it ... like if it was supposed to be normal. The worst is: I know some of their bf's but have no clue about it. Some of them have told their bf but other's are hiding it. I just felt disgusted! It almost sounded like they were bragging about it o_O

Another conversation I had with them: We were talking about their relationships. Suddenly it started about how they see their relationship in the future. The answer I got was litteraly:

"I don't want the same <> for the rest of my life"

That's someone right. What I don't get however is why they trick their bf's into thinking that they will have a long and happy relationship. One of the bf's I know was talking about marriage and children to me. If only he knew ! Some of the girls even said that they'd like to have sex with a another guy and then go back to their bf.

There are alse alot of topics on ENA about the same subject.

Over the years, I've come to know soooo much people that cheat. Or people that don't really desire a relationship but are still in one, fooling around with their partner who is stupid enough to believe in it.

This just makes me wonder one thing: Where is the love in all this ?

[quirky girl]

It is true. But a lot of other beautiful things are true as well. I don't think they are the majority, plus judging by your age I assume the girls are quite young and frankly a lot of males and females are like that at that age. I would have shown my opposition if I was you.I think many see it as cool, being free, living life..it's a lot to do with peer pressure.

[In the Dark]

What love?

If it's easy to get.
It's easy to dispose.

And by the sounds of it. . .easy for them.

'm sory you had to hear every single female atthe table cheated on thier BF.
Having watch thm gloat about it, like it's all a joke.
What they don't know won't hurt them.
I'm guessing you feel that this is more the truth than what you expected?
I'm guessing you even feel like telling these girls BF's?
I know I would.

How old are these girls?!

And I guess it makes you feel like your next partner will most likely do the same?
Really sad.........

[In the Dark]

Originally Posted by quirky girl

It is true. But a lot of other beautiful things are true as well. I don't think they are the majority, plus judging by your age I assume the girls are quite young and frankly a lot of males and females are like that at that age. I would have shown my opposition if I was you.I think many see it as cool, being free, living life..it's a lot to do with peer pressure.

I think you are right quirky.

[Seymore]

I'm sure it's true, and I hope to God those girls get what's coming to them and have the guy they fall for cheat on them and laugh about it. Bitter, I know - but it's sickening to me. And YES, I know guys do it too, they're not exempt from this rant.

Then you turn on the TV and see these reality shows, these Desperate Housewives & Cheaters shows and it makes you wonder what the world's coming to. And I've heard it a million times: There are good girls out there. Of course there are, but just the fact that we live in a world where someone has such little value for a relationship they're in simply because they don't want the same **** for the rest of their lives is plain sickening.

[Tarkan]

Originally Posted by quirky girl

It is true. But a lot of other beautiful things are true as well. I don't think they are the majority, plus judging by your age I assume the girls are quite young and frankly a lot of males and females are like that at that age. I would have shown my opposition if I was you.I think many see it as cool, being free, living life..it's a lot to do with peer pressure.

I didn't said anything that day because I remembered another time where I got stuck in an argument with them who made me very mad. Just because of the way they talked about it. It was also evening and everyone was having fun so I guess that I just didn't wanted to spoil it for them.

Oh well, they were all between 18 and 22.

But don't misunderstand me, I aint blaming them for being free and having fun =) I am such a person myself. I just think that such a lifestyle can come with a minimum of respect ! Well yeh ... maybe I'm to nice. ( oh noes, here comes the word again). I'd consider myself as nice but not a doormat tough. It's just hard to be nice in my age category, especially amonst students. They're like bunny's !!! Everyone bangs everyone !! Geezes the day that one of this people gonna get aids the whole campus is going to get infected.

I don't even want to tell the amount of times that I had to save my female friends from guys that tryed to get them drunk just so they could have a good shag. That's how bad it is !

You know, I get what you say Quirky, and you are certainly right about the peer pressure ^_^ But isn't there a difference between being a free person with a little morale and a plain decadent person ?

[ponyboy]

They also just may be saying that to impress each other. But when they get home or around their SO all that crap changes.

[Tarkan]

Originally Posted by In the Dark

What love?

If it's easy to get.
It's easy to dispose.

And by the sounds of it. . .easy for them.

'm sory you had to hear every single female atthe table cheated on thier BF.
Having watch thm gloat about it, like it's all a joke.
What they don't know won't hurt them.
I'm guessing you feel that this is more the truth than what you expected?
I'm guessing you even feel like telling these girls BF's?
I know I would.

How old are these girls?!

And I guess it makes you feel like your next partner will most likely do the same?
Really sad.........

Yeh

When you hear such stories stories of your friends it kinda makes you afraid. Oh well, but I'm single at the moment so it doesn't affect me as much. As for my partner, I think I'd trust her. That's the least a girlfriend diserves. That was the flaw of an ex-friend of mine: He never trusted his gf's because of these kind of stories. I don't know ... too much trust could make a naive person out of you.

I'll just wait and see. But yeh ... I rather hear more positive things then the kind of stories I heard that evening.

As for the bf's: I ain't going to tell them. It's not my problem. I know them but they aren't close friends or anything. Also, I don't think it's my right to bring trouble in another persons's relationship.

*snif*

Originally Posted by ponyboy

They also just may be saying that to impress each other. But when they get home or around their SO all that crap changes.

True. I know there was alot of lying and bragging. But probably more with the sexual questions. Hmmm ... usually it is guys who exagerate numbers

[quirky girl]

Originally Posted by Tarkan

You know, I get what you say Quirky, and you are certainly right about the peer pressure ^_^ But isn't there a difference between being a free person with a little morale and a plain decadent person ?

Yes of courese Tarkan, that's the ideal but many people need growing up before they get there.

Plus you'd be surprised that their actions might not represent how they deeply feel. I was very romantic and idealistic, hoping my first time would be the first time for my guy, that he'd comb my hair, we'll run across fresh fields, catch butterflies. Almost EVERYONE around me was outting caution on me, teling me to ground myself and just "live a little". I thought something was wrong with me. It was the girls that didn't give a toss that got attention. After not meeting anyone that seemed that romantic I thought maybe people know better. So I kissed someone without feeling anything. Then I was rather promiscuous for like 3 years, drinking, feeling awfull about it but not knowing how to get out of it. I thought it gave me some power. It was a dark phase for me, though I didn't brag about it. I did get out of it as my heart had always been yearning for a deep connection. To this day I believe in that love I believed as a teenager, though in a more adult way. And to this day people around me tell me I'm too romantic.

[InBruges]

Originally Posted by quirky girl

I thought something was wrong with me. It was the girls that didn't give a toss that got attention.

Yeah... for guys, the girls that don't care are like the easy classes in college: VCR Programming 101, Physics of Frisbee, etc... they don't require any effort while fulfilling a supposed need.

A woman that respects herself calls upon a man to be a man. Unfortunately, as is often the case, most men would rather be boys, or either they don't know how to be anything else. Fear of failure is why a lot of men never try to win a woman's heart... they don't think they can.