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rodeo rider --- you are so right on !!! sometimes things need to be broken down in elementary ways for people to conceptualize things, sad but true !

Yes, but only those who are grounded !

Generally speaking --- ignorant, stupid - self-centered jock mentalities bad manners... meaning those who are inconsiderate on any level immaturity And the numero uno ...... guys who can't see past visual appearances ! {in my experience, this is a good indicator of or measure of superficiality}

i think you've missed the boat here, diggity... ONE flower is hardly akin to a present or gift - it's monetary value is less than $5 if even that and it'll die in two days or so... it's a thoughtful gesture, plain and simple !!! any "intelligent" girl/woman is going to know this and considering that, giving someone a flower is not going to be the sole indicator on whether or not the relationship will progress. geesh, it's a bleeping flower for pete's sake ! bringing flower(s) is not desperate or trying to hard - have you heard of thoughtfulness before ??? believe it or not, some men give flowers bc they are thoughtful & chivalrous. there is certainly not anything wrong w/that! as a relatively intelligent and attractive female - i can say wholeheartedly that i appreciate it , bc it tells me that the person was considerate and thoughtful enough to put in a little more effort than simply just showing up at my front door. personally i find nothing wrong about it at all!!!

GREAT point paisely80 - that's exactly what i said ! so i countered his position and said does that mean that women who sleep around in an effort to fulfill their instinctive reproductive urges should not be reprimanded??? course, he glazed right over that one and continued on his speil... evidently, one track thinking must also be a genetic pre-wired gender specific trait as well !!@!

Okay everyone, today I went to lunch w/two male friends (both highly educated professionals) - one of which believes that men should not be faulted for looking/gawking/oogling at other women in the presense of their significant others because (and sit tight for this one)... this behaviour as he contends, is simply a manifestation of man's predetermined genetic and sexual make-up...attributable to man's innate caveman gender predisposition if you .... Which in a nutshell translates into men are pre-wired to reproduce which requires them to involuntarily and subconsciously look/admire other women. Course, I know better then this... but what do you all think ??? I am the only one who finds this as a prime and yet sad exhibit of poor manners and lack of respect

not necessarily ... i do it all the time, especially if i'm bored or staning in line somewhere for a significant amount of time, i'll start chatting w/just about anyone if they seem open to it.[/color]

oh.... lucky number 7 !!! HA HA HA - LMAO ... that is the funniest thing i've heard this year. everyone knows it but actually hearing or should i say reading it is really funny !!!

Betterkarma - your cat looks like he/she has the body of a prairie dog, either that or the body of the velveteen rabbit ! i luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuv it - too cute !!!

Hee hee - i luv it itsallgrand ! you are right so right on =D> !!! lol - beer shirts and the more than half-naked fantasy women imprinted on them ! LMAO

WOW, CL i am soo happy to hear he is home and back w/family & friends- what a blessing !!! please tell him how much his bravery & nobility for our country is appreciated - What a guy !!!

i assure you that i am no fool ! FYI- we all are ignorant to a certain degree relative to certain issues or topics even more so, we all guilty of making stupid mistakes !

i see your raise and raise you my puppy dog ! BEAT THAT !

There you have it sweetheart (redqueen) - this is the problem (if you want to called it that of all the issues you've been faced with & will continue to navigate through (i know i live it) !!! for all you out there who haven't figured it out yet.... Most people are stupid & ignorance is bliss - it's both unfortunate and fortunate that some people out there just don't have enough sense to realize when they are being screwed over !!! redqueen shes2smart annie24 itsallgrand - you guy's rock ! there's nothing better than articulate, intelligent and confident women !